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  1. case-sensitive

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    >Now ask yourself why all those deaths barely have media coverage and yet the coronavirus, with 750,000 (doubtful) deaths worldwide, has enjoyed maximum audience on all channels around the world 24 hours a day 7 days a week since March.

    YOU tell us :)

    >ENOUGH OF LIES.

    Which lies ? Whos lies ?


    >The truth is not going to show you on television.

    What ' THE truth ' ?


    >Nothing more to say.

    :)
     
  2. Mr.X

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  3. Yen

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    Tonight there will be a debate about the Swedish way in German TV (RTL, Stern-TV)...professor Hendric Streek will join. Title:" Is the Swedish 'special' way a success story after all?"

    Another one who did a lot to get more insight on the pandemia. I'll watch it...still learning...

    BTW The German govt did pre-order 94 million doses of a future vaccine by contract not 52 .....erm....... we've only 82 million citizens...o_O
    https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik...land-sichert-94-millionen-dosen-16955136.html
     
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  4. Mr.X

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    This is great, want to watch it.
    Hope someone can upload to youtube.
     
  5. case-sensitive

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    >Tonight there will be a debate about the Swedish way in German TV

    Do you know at what time ?
     
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  7. Yen

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    #1007 Yen, Sep 17, 2020
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    It's actually available on TV now for free. But there might be geo-blocking and you'd have to use a VPN with European IP...

    https://www.tvnow.de/shows/stern-tv...leben-ohne-maskenpflicht-und-lockdown-3401591


    It's been interesting.
    Germany, Poland AND Sweden have best statistics in Europe ATM. Although there also was a physician who did not agree with the Swedish way, my opinion about it has actually been confirmed and the citizens there are happy with their government.

    The Swedish way is a long term strategy....they have 'paid in advance' but the long term perspective is best.....one theory is that they reach 'herd immunity' far sooner than expected...
    But it's also clear that a final conclusion can only be made after several years......

    Best would be to watch it to make own opinions....but Streeck also pleaded for a strategy change for Germany..away from mass PCR tests and infection rates to 'locally related' tests to protect high risk groups....maybe by tests that are more adjusted and far quicker..

    The PCR test is just too sensitive and results to (false) positives means the one actually has nothing to do with getting sick or with being infectious at all...it only means you still can find dead virus DNA.

    That's the reason why infection rate (counted positives) are sometimes high but current death rate is actually low, though.
     
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  8. case-sensitive

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    #1008 case-sensitive, Sep 17, 2020
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    My opinion ---- >

    There were several reports . One about the problems on lesbos wich presented a totaly different picture than i've seen anywhere else . Normaly we only see pictures of hundreds of young men . In that report they showed loads of familys with kids and ariel pictures of the burnt down camp / TOWN .

    The reports about corona didnt realy clear anything up . And didnt explain anything . They talked about the situation in germany and sweden and why its different there than in other countrys ........ but didnt say why .

    Why is it less of a problem in germany and sweden and why a so big one in the unuk and the usa ? In germany many people wear masks and in sweden they dont but both countrys dont have big problems .

    Interesting was that they said that aerosols are not the problem . The problem is drops of spit .

    The only conclusion i can think of is that the germans and swedish live MUCH more responsibly , have a much better education and actualy wash themselves and their clothes . The little british are famous for their dislike of water :) ......... the british diktator winston churchhill called them ....... ' The great unwashed ' .

    In little britain the people have to pay their water bills from their social security payments = VERY many people dont wash themselves or their clothes or dont do it enough .

    Look at a map of the world and look where the problems are worse .............. Is the simple answer ........ Hygene ?
     
  9. Yen

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    #1009 Yen, Sep 17, 2020
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    No. Unique events and unique infection paths, mostly where super spreaders were involved. 'hot spots'

    It isn't fair. Each nation had to 'start' with different preconditions. Some infected people met a huge amount of people at once and at a place where the conditions for an infection were best....others not.....

    And also when infected people encountered many people with pre-illnesses / old people are located (retirement homes).....

    Then later at the pandemia the national conditions and the behavior of people there are prevailing and the luck / bad luck of the beginning does not play a role anymore.....
    Discipline and own responsibility to care about social distancing has a great influence....also unique measures aligned at the unique problems prevented a lot...

    Besides of that unique national 'factors' which you cannot simply change....(population density, average age, social and cultural life and habits (where it happens most) and so on...)

    There is a lot more of research to do....this is only a vague attempt of myself to explain a difference...


    Eieieiei...this is almost racist...
     
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  10. case-sensitive

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    The countrys with the least problems are those with good education systems , good sozial standards , good hygene standards , generaly practice sozial distancing , have good health systems with adequat supplys for emergencys and the population isnt bolshy :)

    The countrys with the worst problems are countrys with low education standards , low sozial standards , low hygene standards , generaly dont or cant practice sozial distancing , have poor health systems with inadequat supplys for emergencys that are hollowed out by capitalism ...... for example the little british national death service .......... underfunded , overstreached , no catastrophy depots , underpayed over worked workers and very low medical standards ...... and the little british and americans are bolshy :)


    >rasist :)

    Did you google ' The great unwashed ' ? ......... Its in wikipaedia .......... under several titles ...... and ...... i am little british
     
  11. Yen

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    OK :)...;)

    What's also interesting ....Streecks expertise on Sputnik V..and that it's based on HIV vector....
     
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  12. Mr.X

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    HUH? are we going to start with multi-dot writing?
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  14. gorski

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    Death rate by C-19 is NOT 0!

    https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publications/deaths-covid-19

    https://fullfact.org/health/covid-ifr-more-01/

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/

    And it's not just about death rate! Read back!!!

    What is this, amnesia competition, just how silly some here can get?!?

    Consequences of catching C-19 even for young, well educated, careful people can be tremendously debilitating and long term!!!!

    And we simply do NOT know what the long term rate problems for children who caught it could be (lungs, heart, kidneys etc)!

    What the Hell are some of you on, FCOL?!?
     
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  15. case-sensitive

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    Who are you adressing ? What do you want to adress / get over with that list of words ?

    >Consequences of catching C-19 even for young, well educated, careful people can be tremendously debilitating and long term!!!! And we simply do NOT know what the long term rate problems for children who caught it could be (lungs, heart, kidneys etc)!

    OMG !!! WE'RE DOOMED !!! ...... Seriously ........ if you say ' we dont know ' ......... what are you basing your objections / negativity on ? You say ' we ' ( meaning you ) dont know and then complain about what you dont know ?

    >What the Hell are some of you on, FCOL?!?

    = people that you dont understand must be ON something ? .......... and because you ' think ' that they're ' ON something ' they must be wrong ? Bad ? ......... and because you dont understand you must be right !?! What would Kant say about that ? :)
     
  16. Mr.X

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    #1017 Mr.X, Sep 18, 2020
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    We're doomed!!!!
    Oh God!!!
    I'm starting to see everything in pink color!!!!!!!!!
    Coronaliar is sickening me!!!!


    :D
     
  17. Tiger-1

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    yep :D
     
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