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Yes, that's right. But I actually didn't refer to GB but to Germany, Poland and Sweden (named those at beginning of my post as such with best statistics ATM and not in total).. I correct it to 'low'.. Of course we do not know about long term rate problems! You can only collect a long time to get them noticed. You cannot make an opinion about / categorize medical data which do not exist (yet). Any thinking about it is irrational... and any article about today not even a vague hint... Long term = long period of time to get there. That also applies to the question How will kids and old people with pre-illnesses react on the first public released vaccine? Both groups of people are not really presented in studies yet....only PHASE IV will be able to obtain an answer-....slowly..step by step after release.. Funny enough that when I now post about another professor's elaborations in a TV debate about certain and specific pandemic related matters you always lose objectivity and generalize.... and do not recognize that I only addressed some individual relations. Your arguing against something is actually arguing against a something that does not exist! Another boat!? I am in the same boat as you. I want that we do it best against the pandemia and I want to have less damages and less dead as possible. I chose my arguments in this context! You also should be aware that the flu 17/18 caused more than double of dead people than COVID-19 so far. (Germany more than 20000) and at other European counties also a lot. Where have you been there? Why did you not point out that time that they have to lockdown or 'to do' something against it.. Also consider if we would have got a lockdown there and the resulted battered economy would now be affected again with COVID-19 and other lockdowns..!? Each nation has a different progress at the panemia. The reason for it is that each nation has its own unique events during pandemia and for some a lockdown is NOT useful. Waves of infections are one of the most probable 'dangers' for humankind at all. (Besides of destroying mother earth herself)...and each one needs recovery from it..
"Erring on the side of caution" ever enters your mind, @Yen? Given that we do NOT know what the potential long term effects might be and given that we DO know there are serious problems with many of us (and we do not know just how many) - how about it? As in "Do no harm!" How far will you go in following your guru(s) Buddhist inclination that all this is not important and pretend it has nothing to do with his beliefs, "just" with science and statistics?!? All of this regardless of many reports of serious damage the virus can cause in many of us - how many of them (either their very lives or their health) are you willing to sacrifice on the alter of... well now... whet do we call this, let's see... unscientific following of a few people who are clearly interpreting statistics in a very flawed and dangerous manner, most probably influenced by who they are generally, including their religious beliefs and values, seeing Human Beings only as numbers. Similar to Trump, of course, who can only be bothered with those who helped him become president and openly doesn't give a rat's arse of anyone else... May I offer some enlightenment just how dangerous it is not to problematise such issues from the following little explanation:
Este cabrón de rosa nada más está aquí para contrariar a alguien. Como ya nadie discute con él ahora se agarró a Yen nada más para hacerla de pedo con su puto razonamiento hiper rebuscado para crear un ambiente tenso y también lo insulta con su sarcasmo.
My opinion about Streeck is based on my experiences and profession (at my entire work-life I have to deal with other scientists) but it is personal. Anyway it's not 'out of the blue'. Bhakdi is more polarizing and yes more of controversial. And yes there (at Bhakdi) is lots of space for discussions...but Streeck is straight, rational and competent. You can say what you want for me Streeck (et al.) is a brilliant scientist who contributed a lot to elucidation of corona related events (Heinsberg study and the like). He is a very reasonable person. And another thing is....each of us has an own personal imagination of sicknesses and their attributes. For instance when I'd ask you:" What does measles mean for you?" Then you compare to your practical experiences (if you can / have had measles already) or / and to all of that what you know about. When you make a statement about an attribute for instance How dangerous / serious it is..then you categorize it related to what you know / have experienced / health condition / pre-illness if present... Another person makes the same and by that creates an own categorisation which is surely different, because own experiences / knowledge / health condition / pre-illness if present are always individual. This applies to COVID-19 of course as well. So you have your own idea about and I have mine (which are also different)... Those people who have now to recognize / decide when it's getting dangerous or worse and consequently have to apply measures are suffering from the same issue. Their categorisations / idea about the sickness do also vary. Individual by individual and hence nation by nation. So when it comes to the day where a decision has to be made politicians vote and realize the majority rule... and they all (at best) have what's "logically and Humanly needed" in mind.... Also to speak about a "right" categorisation comes with issues. What is actually "right"???? 'Fear' about something and relative potential of danger to an individual is actually not rationally categorizable...to some COVID-19 is more dangerous than to others....and I do not speak of pre-illnesses / physical preconditions....I speak of the pure personal idea / thought about it. This is in a similar context when you think about if a certain vaccination is useful or not. You go to a professional and seek advice. But THEN you have to make the decision about whether the measure against the sickness = certain vaccination is an useful measure for you against it and whether you apply it or rather not! It is always dependent on your personal idea about the sickness and even on the idea of the measure itself (in that case the vaccination).
Every belief system has major flaws, including those espoused by a lisping communist. Just because you can find flaws doesn't mean you have a better system.
Murphy, with this kind of "democratic culture", in any civilised country, you wouldn't get to even clean the toilets, if you were to abuse your customers in such an idiotic and frivolous manner! McCarthy was a loser and so are you, together with anyone behaving in such a manner!!!! @Yen, I find it lamentable that somebody who claims to be on a scientific side and of a scientific mind, to claim that "illness" is down to "personal imagination of sicknesses and their attribute". Especially given the freely available evidence re. what Covid-19 can do even to a young and fit person, from long term disability to death. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...ge-outside-the-lungs#Direct-damage-to-tissues https://www.healthline.com/health-n...complication-that-can-hit-people-in-their-20s https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...-multi-organ-damage-in-COVID-19-patients.aspx https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckr...-long-term-organ-damage-in-covid-19-survivors https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/07/0...rt-damage-covid-19-may-leave-lingering-marks/ https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/covid-19-brain-damage https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200423/the-great-invader-how-covid-attacks-every-organ https://health.clevelandclinic.org/heres-the-damage-coronavirus-covid-19-can-do-to-your-lungs/ Chew on that a bit and don't come back to tell me that it's a matter of "personal imagination", please... Your "arguments" are getting sillier and ever more transparent by the day... What the hell is going on with your reasoning, man? From Scientist to believer in such a short amount of time - it's worrying.... Which of these groups is not "worthy of saving", @ALL?!?
Next thing we all will read in the news is that this super mighty Sars-Cov-2 can get women pregnant and procreate children with spikes in place of hair. Many scientists, not alligned with the elite system, in Latin America say quite the opposite.
Right, if it ain't happening to you - it ain't happening at all, to anyone, right? And if it's impeding you to make lots of money - it's "evil" to stop people behaving as if nothing is going on, right?
My mom always told me I wouldn’t accomplish anything by lying in bed all day. But look at me now, ma! I’m saving the world!
This is the consequence of such a "brave" attitude: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...hind-high-bolton-infection-rate-says-local-mp
Many "important" mainstream media I consider liars. I rather believe what scientists and medical professionals NOT Alligned have to say. Besides it's stupid not turn our heads to all available cures we have now. Yes, I said CURES no matter who disagree, like it or not. BAM!