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  1. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    C-S, it's back to primary school for you....
     
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  2. Yen

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    You are arguing as if there would be just the side of caution of victims caused by COVID-19 illness alone. What about collateral damage?

    And yes people are also dying because of the measures applied. Suicide rates, delayed surgeries, psychological damage. All those kids out there who have to wear a mask, who cannot meet their friends. Delayed education, lost jobs, income, domestic abuse due to lockdown situations. Those are the long COVIDs!

    COVID-19 could have been a killer, but since the Heinsberg study I changed my mind. And now it's official by WHO.
     
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  3. samuraikid

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    Did you notice no one dies from natural causes now funny right ?
    if you have 83 years old you have 99.5% to be ok i know some really old people who are ok and did get the fake virus

    Also about the media ..
    In the hospitals do you think if the virus was so deadly camara mans were in the hospital filming to you see at home those guys on the beds? Thinking is free
     
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  4. Mr.X

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  5. MS_User

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    how stupid are u?
     
  6. case-sensitive

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    Nice one ---- > The news just said that the british government is telling the vacine producer companys that they have to put all their test results on the table .......... because up till now all we have are adverts from those companys and the main questions are not answered = Proof ,. cost , transport and storage ,
     
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    You didnt read it ......... and its monday .......... did he do it ?
     
  9. Mr.X

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    Oh boy you're so smart, so clever. Amazing. But go get pro help.
     
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    Just watched boris making his speach today on the third news channel i tried and i didnt hear anything about it .

    That pass that the article is talking about is idiotic ......... people would have to have 2 tests 3 days apart and both be negative ........ but that would mean that they're only valid for 3 days ...... and who would control them ?

    BUT ....... there was a spot where they talked about aeroplane passagers haveing to have a certificate tio prove that they havent got corona .
     
  12. Tiger-1

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    in my view it is just chaos I believe that this time we are lost, I still hope it is wrong ... ;)
     
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  13. Mr.X

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    The fact he didn't do it does not mean absolutely he won't in the future.
     
  14. samuraikid

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    #1574 samuraikid, Nov 24, 2020
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    Do you think im stupid? Open your eyes its the best advice i can give you,
    just to finish vaccines miraculous appear after us elections,
    do you still think is coincidence ?
    Do you see the riots and the earthquakes on places that never had earthquakes ? Like bible talks about ? Hm ?
    Did you heard about amazon one ? The mark of the beast system ? They tried launch during this fake pandemic ?
     
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  15. Yen

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    #1575 Yen, Nov 24, 2020
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    This is an addition to post: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/coronavirus-discussion.81224/page-79#post-1631497
    OK, got it. Here's the difference of b1 and b2. Unfortunately 'headache' is missing there.
    Anyway many many more affected with side effects.

    The 'private results' on the Pfizer site cannot be right.

    Have a look at 30µg. It's the dose they have chosen for phase III and that is the dose that will be vaccinated (b2) in the public two times in between 3 weeks.

    Source: https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2027906?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori:rid:crossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub++0pubmed

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  16. MS_User

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    yes u are stupid!!!
     
  17. gorski

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    Nonsense!

    The only one here arguing for a proper set of measures was me! The only one!

    In other words, we can support ourselves properly, like we supported the bankers and financiers who almost destroyed the global system and we still bailed them out - but suddenly, somehow, magically, we couldn't afford to bail ourselves out by the very same money, OUR money?!? GET REAL!

    USofA has a military budget of 740 billion!!! Now, imagine what we can do when we put our best minds and responses to ANY task!!!

    And that happened here: when we are focused - we are creative and we can deliver solutions!

    Sure, they are not yet proven, a lot of work to be done but!!!!

    So, I was consistently - unlike you - advocating both ethical Public Health Policy which errs on the side of caution, which does NOT put economy first(!!!) AND at the same time - while properly supporting serious measures to prevent C-19 from spreading (which inevitably happens when we we continue to worship profit, money, amassing and similar ego-tripping etc.) - science, research in charge of saving lives, while we wait for medicines/vaccines...

    Life over death (capital, the dead stuff that rules us in our usual, every day circumstances, when we live in Capitalism) for most people on Earth!!!

    If you happen to live in some kind of quasi-communist/socialist society - for the most part you are safe (see Vietnam!!!)! And even in some places which are Capitalist countries, like New Zealand etc.

    So, don't give me this cr@p that there is no viable alternative to your guru's inhumane "musings" - yes there is but he or them, for various reasons (from eugenics to religious nonsense), don't give a hoot about Humanity as a whole!!!

    And you bought it wholesale, while hiding behind numbers, not understanding any real meaning being sold behind those "pure numbers", while ignoring serious suffering and death throughout the world!!!!

    Just what kind of a "scientist" is your guru, Yen? And what kind of people are those who are buying this sh&t wholesale?!?
     
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  18. gorski

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    Look, this is the right attitude, informed by the best values Humanity has on offer!!!!

     
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  19. Yen

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    #1579 Yen, Nov 25, 2020
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    You again start over with your political drivel. YOUR idea of USA, eugenics, gurus, Humanity.......always harping on...boring to the bones...

    And your set is not even an unique set. It is going round in circles. There is not even an approach noticeable which could make any progress at the pandemic.
    It reflects the same inability as current politics. You are intellectually stuck in March and by that you still join the politicians' helpless way to try to control the pandemic.

    Measures get loosened when the numbers are 'low' and measures are approximating lockdown when they get higher.
    That is what they have learned so far.

    The individual subtleties are there where we can 'afford' a lockdown (schools / restaurants ?!?) and where not because of assigned 'systemic relevance'.
    The politicians' bumbledom is about to play the one who knows it best (just like you do) .."schools need to be open!, No schools have to be locked down.

    All them take things for granted without any support of evidence. No single measure has attracted significant attention that one could say this or that really has worked.
    Anybody in Europe did it the same bad way. Germany is just a bit better because of the 'German attributes' : obedient, following the rules, yes-sayers and best medical support in the world.

    France, Spain with massive lockdowns, Sweden with soft restrictions...all the same way. The pandemic is doing what it wants.

    No, you are not the only one who's stuck in dark age with your 'proper' set of measures. All the public health politicians are joining you. Also vaunting without real merit.

    We need a massive change how we deal and LIVE with the pandemic!

    Otherwisely see you at the 24th lockdown after the 24th wave.

    (I assume you are well supported by government assistance already. At least it's understandable that such ideas are originating from somebody who gets money of someone who is massively indebted -AKA govt- either way...)

    Yeah F**k capitalism, we don't have any money either way and never have earned some on our own. So we = GOVT can afford lockdown after lockdown...we have capacity!!! o_Oo_Oo_O
     
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  20. gorski

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    Actually, I am the only one here who does NOT do "political drivel" - as for the rest, one or two are sympathetic, alas all the rest have no idea whether they are coming or going, you included!

    My "political drivel" is the best drivel there is! Period!

    Now, pandemic is not doing "what it wants" - that's political drivel! See Vietnam! And other countries!

    Germany? Don't make me laugh - yeah, very obedient... aha...

    Not as bad as the Italians etc. but...

    Sweden - of course it's a mess! If only you could stop your political drivel you would be able to see it!

    Mark my words, here and elsewhere it was worse than March only a couple of weeks or so. And already they are starting to loosen it all up. So, into March we are going, round about January! So, I'll ask you the same Q again: who was it doing the political drivel, you or me?
     
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