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  1. Yen

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    It's not me saying: "justification for various non-pharmacological public health interventions depends on the infection fatality rate."
     
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  2. case-sensitive

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    Gorski ......... https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/ep...mdhW_jpxG-eVn08AYF0cPHNu2B3ggF0OtT_-79E-6fJ3c that is pseudointellectual crap . A cascade of words .

    If a person understands something they can explain it in a way that everyone can understand . Thats what separates experts from the rest .

    Please explain what that report says ........ in your opinion ...... and what you want to say with it ...... in a short clear expanation .

    A sure sign of bulls**t is when an article / report / study is VERY long .......... and where its clear to see that someone has written something ......... and then edited it so that the sentances are extra long ............ and then swap ' normal ' words for big ' clever ' words .

    This one is crap because on the surface its about a debate between force and cooperation ........ but between the lines its talking about other ideas / forms of decision making .

    What other choices are there besides democracy ? And being realistic , rational and following the science ?

    >In short: if you don't know about potential long term consequences of C-19 how can you POSSIBLY say that what we are doing is "bad"?!? By which magic?!?

    At ' logic ' ---- > And how can you say its good ? or not bad ? It aplys just as much to your position as to yens position .
     
  3. gorski

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    Only if you just dropped from Mars and have not seen tons of dead people everywhere, who would have otherwise survived with their conditions and medical assistance!!!!

    What are you on, to say that we should not err on the side of caution?!?
     
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  4. gorski

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    C-S, it's back to primary school for you....
     
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  5. Yen

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    You are arguing as if there would be just the side of caution of victims caused by COVID-19 illness alone. What about collateral damage?

    And yes people are also dying because of the measures applied. Suicide rates, delayed surgeries, psychological damage. All those kids out there who have to wear a mask, who cannot meet their friends. Delayed education, lost jobs, income, domestic abuse due to lockdown situations. Those are the long COVIDs!

    COVID-19 could have been a killer, but since the Heinsberg study I changed my mind. And now it's official by WHO.
     
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  6. samuraikid

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    Did you notice no one dies from natural causes now funny right ?
    if you have 83 years old you have 99.5% to be ok i know some really old people who are ok and did get the fake virus

    Also about the media ..
    In the hospitals do you think if the virus was so deadly camara mans were in the hospital filming to you see at home those guys on the beds? Thinking is free
     
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  7. Mr.X

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  8. MS_User

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    how stupid are u?
     
  9. case-sensitive

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    Nice one ---- > The news just said that the british government is telling the vacine producer companys that they have to put all their test results on the table .......... because up till now all we have are adverts from those companys and the main questions are not answered = Proof ,. cost , transport and storage ,
     
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    You didnt read it ......... and its monday .......... did he do it ?
     
  12. Mr.X

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    Oh boy you're so smart, so clever. Amazing. But go get pro help.
     
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    Just watched boris making his speach today on the third news channel i tried and i didnt hear anything about it .

    That pass that the article is talking about is idiotic ......... people would have to have 2 tests 3 days apart and both be negative ........ but that would mean that they're only valid for 3 days ...... and who would control them ?

    BUT ....... there was a spot where they talked about aeroplane passagers haveing to have a certificate tio prove that they havent got corona .
     
  15. Tiger-1

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    in my view it is just chaos I believe that this time we are lost, I still hope it is wrong ... ;)
     
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  16. Mr.X

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    The fact he didn't do it does not mean absolutely he won't in the future.
     
  17. samuraikid

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    #1577 samuraikid, Nov 24, 2020
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    Do you think im stupid? Open your eyes its the best advice i can give you,
    just to finish vaccines miraculous appear after us elections,
    do you still think is coincidence ?
    Do you see the riots and the earthquakes on places that never had earthquakes ? Like bible talks about ? Hm ?
    Did you heard about amazon one ? The mark of the beast system ? They tried launch during this fake pandemic ?
     
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  18. Yen

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    #1578 Yen, Nov 24, 2020
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    This is an addition to post: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/coronavirus-discussion.81224/page-79#post-1631497
    OK, got it. Here's the difference of b1 and b2. Unfortunately 'headache' is missing there.
    Anyway many many more affected with side effects.

    The 'private results' on the Pfizer site cannot be right.

    Have a look at 30µg. It's the dose they have chosen for phase III and that is the dose that will be vaccinated (b2) in the public two times in between 3 weeks.

    Source: https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2027906?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori:rid:crossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub++0pubmed

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  19. MS_User

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    yes u are stupid!!!
     
  20. gorski

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    Nonsense!

    The only one here arguing for a proper set of measures was me! The only one!

    In other words, we can support ourselves properly, like we supported the bankers and financiers who almost destroyed the global system and we still bailed them out - but suddenly, somehow, magically, we couldn't afford to bail ourselves out by the very same money, OUR money?!? GET REAL!

    USofA has a military budget of 740 billion!!! Now, imagine what we can do when we put our best minds and responses to ANY task!!!

    And that happened here: when we are focused - we are creative and we can deliver solutions!

    Sure, they are not yet proven, a lot of work to be done but!!!!

    So, I was consistently - unlike you - advocating both ethical Public Health Policy which errs on the side of caution, which does NOT put economy first(!!!) AND at the same time - while properly supporting serious measures to prevent C-19 from spreading (which inevitably happens when we we continue to worship profit, money, amassing and similar ego-tripping etc.) - science, research in charge of saving lives, while we wait for medicines/vaccines...

    Life over death (capital, the dead stuff that rules us in our usual, every day circumstances, when we live in Capitalism) for most people on Earth!!!

    If you happen to live in some kind of quasi-communist/socialist society - for the most part you are safe (see Vietnam!!!)! And even in some places which are Capitalist countries, like New Zealand etc.

    So, don't give me this cr@p that there is no viable alternative to your guru's inhumane "musings" - yes there is but he or them, for various reasons (from eugenics to religious nonsense), don't give a hoot about Humanity as a whole!!!

    And you bought it wholesale, while hiding behind numbers, not understanding any real meaning being sold behind those "pure numbers", while ignoring serious suffering and death throughout the world!!!!

    Just what kind of a "scientist" is your guru, Yen? And what kind of people are those who are buying this sh&t wholesale?!?
     
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