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  1. case-sensitive

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    Turn round what youve said in response to that swiss report ....... and at least some of it aplys to you and what your saying

    The source made points . If you have objections to anything it says please argue against individual points with facts if possible ...... and stop saying i'm right because i'm right ?
     
  2. Yen

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    #142 Yen, Mar 26, 2020
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    I am not here to convince you otherwise. If doctor noname from Switzerland has informed you well about corona then it is fine.
    I have posted a link as example (on the subject 'Italy') for that what I consider as serious journalism (Die Zeit online).
    You can see that the links to sources do not differ that much....but the context and the intent differs...it is declared as an explanation attempt..and .nothing about bad air there....(pointless)

    And I mentioned that I respect Prof. Streeck's works pretty much....maybe you can find the difference to Mr. noname on your own if you make some efforts...
    Hint: Have a look at Streeks comments where he rather says: I know it's silly always to have to say I am sorry we do not know that yet...
     
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  3. Joe C

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    copyright?
     
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  4. Enthousiast

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    They don't want to share the recipe for a certain fluid that breaks up the cell to be able to get the dna material from it. There are generic recipes but this specific one is specially made for the test systems from roche, who has the biggest marketshare in this field around the world.
     
  5. Yen

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    In other words Roche delays testing having own profit in mind...
    They should be enforced by law sharing it....

    To develop an own method by using generic agents would waste time we actually do not have left...
     
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  6. Enthousiast

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    The problem is that the recently developed new test method (which enables max 4000 automated tests per 24hr), production is at 8.5 million kits per month, is probably so new that they want their investment back and yes it should be ordered by crisis laws.
     
  7. Joe C

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  8. Atari800XL

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    Roche just now mentioned to Dutch news organisation "NOS" that the recipe is freely available on the internet...
     
  9. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    The generic fluid or the roche test kit specific one?
     
  10. Atari800XL

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    I saw it on Teletekst.
    (Remember 1981, announced by Chriet Titulaer?)
    (It's like Jeff Lynne said in the song "The Way Life's Meant To Be" on the album "Time" : "I wish I was back in 1981")
     
  11. Enthousiast

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    Roche says the fluid recipe is freely available on the internet, but for safety, quality and reliability it's best to buy theirs:rolleyes:
     
  12. Bat.1

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    :g:So de reason Bat can't find a roll to wipe him azz :censored: is lobo bought it all up just to tp a highway o_O
     
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  13. Mr.X

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    #153 Mr.X, Mar 26, 2020
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    Me, dealing with this Corona thing

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  14. vladnil

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  15. Joe C

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  16. John Sutherland

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    An important message from Elon Musk:

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  18. Bat.1

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  19. Yen

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    #159 Yen, Mar 28, 2020
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    You know what 'Evidenz' is?
    There can't be clear evidence (yet). There are not enough data.
    AFAIK South Korea has best preconditions for evidence. Their testing rate is very high.

    Besides of that Prof. Streeck has got a new project. He's going to Heinsberg collecting more data. The scientists hope that the data gathered there can be used to get things clearer for entire Germany. (Heinsberg is superposed to be 2 weeks ahead).
    He also wants to test people which are not in statistics yet. To figure if there are 'silent' infections and recoveries. He also wants to find and reproduce certain paths of infections.

    A pandemia requires actions to be taken without to have clear evidence.
    The process of getting evidence is far slower than the spreading of the virus.

    Later then we know it better, that's the dilemma.
    The current approach is 'better safe than sorry'...although there are huge 'side' effects on economy and personal freedom, I know.
     
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  20. Joe C

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    Well it has been a full 7 days since Mrs C had her Convid19 test done and we still have not been notified of any results.(We are both 60+ yrs old)
    Here's a little something to help kill a few minutes if your stuck in the house
     
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