Guys - any kind of Flu is very dangerous and hundreds of times more people die from it than from the Corona. Tuberculosis is even more dangerous - every minute from 3 to 5 people die in one minute (death) Yes, hundreds of diseases kill people, but there is no such PR as with Korona! One should take any illness seriously! PS: Do you still count how many people have died from an ugly lifestyle? The same Alcoholism, drugs, people eat (food) whatever they get. But you are free and have the right to decide for yourself what to eat and drink. (Freedom kills people) _______________ You can ask, moving away from the topic - How much does it cost you to sew on your thumb (you cut off your finger with a grinder)? In Belarus, neurosurgeons sewed for free!
I disregard any data, whatever it is, including scientific. I don't trust the system anymore. I don't trust the Internet so easily. I have to be cautious. I'm starting to accept my new friend comments because she lives two miles away my home. She's real, I can feel her, see her, listen to her, see her expressions. Listening to real people I found CDS (chlorine dioxide solution), learn all its good things or benefits in opposition to the official crap. Scientific data, "common sense", WHO or FDA, or whatever you read or listen about chlorine dioxide is toxic and doesn't cure anything. If it wasn't for unofficial, conspiraloonie, anecdotal evidence I'd never found CDS to cure illnesses and COVID-19 as well. Also I was harm and still suffering and will be suffering for the next years it seems, due to evil psychiatric poisons from Big Pharma. I'd be extremely stupid and ignorant to just believe in what I read from official news and scientific journals so easily. @vladnil if you read my previous posts my friend says she has dealt with pneumonia patients many times during her practice. All the patients she has treated are saved using natural and/or allopathic medication. Oxigen saturation gets low but as soon as medicine and immune system responds, patient recovers. Of course many people die from pneumonia but she hasn't experienced a death from her own cases. I DO believe her. Period. From March 2020 to date, she has seen patients with COVID-19 and she says it is COVID cause saturation gets lower and lower like never before. Some patients die because he or relatives/family rejects CDS. Others don't and get saved. @vladnil we all know about underlying illnesses and we all know people suffer to death from complications. And corona is not different. But corona itself she says and the other doctor I know says, it's quite virulent and deadly when the body is weak. Also bad habits contribute to aggravate any disease.
So your argument is this: our response to other diseases was lacking, so we should continue to have lacking approaches, even in a pandemic and with a virus with a high death rate and for which vaccines have not been rolled out en masse yet. I am trying to imagine what sort of mind I would have to have, to make it my main pandemic response to lament how we weren't careful enough with other viruses and diseases, but instead of truly lamenting it and changing the current approach, using the previous poor response as a model for my current poor response! This could quite possibly be construed as the opposite of thinking.
I am not a doctor and the same person, like many others, we rely on the facts that are provided to us via the Internet (trust or not) It doesn't matter to me, to be honest, I don't care who is right and who is not. I am a man of my principles and justice so that everything is within the framework of morality and ethics! It is difficult for me to judge the situation about the Corona or the Flu as I was ill the last time in 1994 or 1997, I do not remember exactly. I draw conclusions only because of the opinions of other people with whom I am connected. As I described earlier, I work with a lot of people.
Merry Christmas to all of you! Thank you for your time discussing with me. Always refreshing regardless of who it is / was. I always enjoy. Enjoy holidays! BTW Just spotted another drug that looks promising. Ivermectin And to all who are scientifically interested I'd suggest to have a look on youtube channel Drbeen Medical Lectures. And he's also a detailed subject for @gorski 'long haulers' very interesting. Also the GB mutation. Be aware he's very detailed. I'll take a short break, but will respond soon to the posts. Cya.
Indeed, Merry Christmas to all! OMG -- I know someone who has been taking that for most of the last year, in his case he thinks it's a cure against prostate cancer. He got COVID 2 weeks ago, by the way... but he recovered. He did have intense pain in chest and back and the symptoms kind of came in waves for him, good days and bad days.
Ivermectin is a well known antiparasitic employed with success in Latin America. Yet not as successful by chance as chlorine dioxide. But yes they say it's a good solution. Remember chlorine dioxide is a powerful biocide.
>Remember chlorine dioxide is a powerful biocide. So are naplam , dyoxin , uranium , xylon B and glyphosate .
First of all, Merry Christmas, and secondly, wow...your post is almost a year old and so much has changed since then with respect to CV19. How are you doing? What's happening is Germany? In the USA over 300,000 people have been lost to this wicked virus. Apart from staying at home and waiting to be vaccinated, do the usual stuff which you are probably tired of hearing about, such as: wear a mask (at least a level2 type), practice social distancing, and wash your hands frequently. Hope all is well with you. Stay safe.
Here's a couple of articles on IIvermectin: https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-100956/v2 https://assets.researchsquare.com/files/rs-100956/v1/682247ca-ef49-4d68-aa3f-493a8fc9a056.pdf .
Ivermectin is getting attention now, lol as expected. Being a patented substance makers are going to make lots of money.
According to scientists, the supposed "new strain" in England would be the effect of the Pfizer vaccine. In 5 days 3,150 people had serious problems. 3% already in the first week. They were the first to be vaccinated and they are the ones who have their side effects first: covid-21 OFFICIAL DATA: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/m...sWDRndDt77rQGKPelSnhKkwv0IY7Et4HwhWt8xbEXhjhU
They're saying polyethylene glycol is causing this, which apparently is a "compound in the packaging of the messenger RNA (mRNA) that forms the vaccine’s main ingredient". And the Moderna vaccine uses it, too. That sucks.
Farmafia = criminals within the law Pharmafia = Big Pharma Vaccines = Death disguised as Savior Hey but don't listen to me. I'm a f conspiraloonie. Much less chlorine dioxide, I must be completely insane.
Remember, the complication is rare. If pharma intended this effect, they would have made it common. Flu vaccines prevent many bouts of flu each year, preventing deaths from flu. It is not death disguised, but maybe not quite savior either.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...tm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=GTUK_email UK scientists trial drug to prevent infection that leads to Covid Exclusive: Antibody therapy could confer instant immunity to Covid-19 on at-risk groups A ventilated coronavirus patient: doctors hope the antibody therapy can be given to inpatients. Denis Campbell Health policy editor Fri 25 Dec 2020 17.00 GMT Last modified on Sat 26 Dec 2020 10.40 GMT British scientists are trialling a new drug that could prevent someone who has been exposed to coronavirus from going on to develop the disease Covid-19, which experts say could save many lives. The antibody therapy would confer instant immunity against the disease and could be given as an emergency treatment to hospital inpatients and care home residents to help contain outbreaks. People living in households where someone has caught Covid could be injected with the drug to ensure they do not become infected too. It could also be given to university students, among whom the virus has spread rapidly because they live, study and socialise together. Dr Catherine Houlihan, a virologist at University College London Hospitals NHS trust (UCLH) who is leading a study called Storm Chaser into the drug, said: “If we can prove that this treatment works and prevent people who are exposed to the virus going on to develop Covid-19, it would be an exciting addition to the arsenal of weapons being developed to fight this dreadful virus.” The drug has been developed by UCLH and AstraZeneca, the pharmaceutical company that has also, along with Oxford University, created a vaccine that the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency is expected to approve for use in Britain next week. The team hope the trial shows that the cocktail of antibodies protects against Covid-19 for between six and 12 months. Trial participants are receiving it as two doses, one after the other. If it is approved, it would be offered to someone who has been exposed to Covid in the previous eight days. It could be available as soon as March or April if it is approved by the medicines regulator after it has reviewed evidence from the study. The trial involves UCLH, several other British hospitals and a network of 100 sites globally. This month University College hospital became the first site in the world to recruit patients into the randomised control trial and give them the jab or a placebo. “To date we have injected 10 participants – staff, students and other people – who were exposed to the virus at home, in a healthcare setting or student halls,” said Houlihan. She and colleagues would closely follow the participants to see which of them develop Covid-19. The immediate protection that the drug promises could play a vital role in reducing the impact of the virus until everyone has been immunised. The vaccination programme is under way using the Pfizer/BioNTech jab and is expected to take until next summer. NHS England accelerated the vaccine deployment this week after criticism from hospital bosses, GP leaders and the former health secretary Jeremy Hunt that it was taking too long. “The advantage of this medicine is that it gives you immediate antibodies,” Houlihan said. “We could say to trial participants who have been exposed: yes, you can have the vaccine. But we wouldn’t be telling them that would protect them from the disease, because it’s too late by then [because the Pfizer and Oxford vaccines do not confer full immunity for around a month].” Paul Hunter, a professor of medicine at the University of East Anglia who specialises in infectious diseases, said the new treatment could significantly reduce the death toll from Covid. “If you are dealing with outbreaks in settings such as care homes, or if you have got patients who are particularly at risk of getting severe Covid, such as the elderly, then this could well save a lot of lives. Providing it’s borne out in phase 3 trials, it could play a big role in keeping alive people who would otherwise die. So it should be a big thing,” he said. “If you had an outbreak in a care home, you might want to use these sorts of cocktails of antibodies to bring the outbreak under control as soon as possible by giving the drug to everybody in the care home – residents and staff – who hasn’t been vaccinated. Similarly, if you live with your elderly grandmother and you or someone else in the house gets infected, then you could give her this to protect her.” The drug involves a long-acting antibody combination known as AZD7442, which has been developed by AstraZeneca. Rather than antibodies produced by the body to help fight an infection, AZD7442 uses monoclonal antibodies, which have been created in a laboratory. In documents on a clinical trial that AstraZeneca has registered in the US, it explains that it is investigating “the efficacy of AZD7442 for the post-exposure prophylaxis of Covid-19 in adults. The Sars-CoV-2 spike protein contains the virus’s RBD [receptor-binding domain], which enables the virus to bind to receptors on human cells. By targeting this region of the virus’s spike protein, antibodies can block the virus’s attachment to human cells, and therefore is expected to block infection.” In a separate trial, called Provent, UCLH is investigating whether the drug could also protect people with compromised immune systems, such as those undergoing chemotherapy for cancer, who have recently been exposed to the virus but have either not had a vaccine or in whom it has not resulted in immunity because of their underlying condition. Both the Provent and Storm Chaser trials are now in phase 3. Dr Nicky Longley, an infectious diseases consultant at UCLH, who is leading the second study, said: “We will be recruiting people who are older or in long-term care, and who have conditions such as cancer and HIV which may affect the ability of their immune system to respond to a vaccine. We want to reassure anyone for whom a vaccine may not work that we can offer an alternative which is just as protective.” Both trials are being undertaken at UCLH’s new vaccine research centre, which is funded by the NHS’s research arm, the National Institute for Health Research, and led by Prof Vincenzo Libri. Dr Richard Jarvis, a co-chair of the British Medical Association’s public health medicine committee, said: “For the vast majority of the population, vaccination offers the best protection against Covid-19, and NHS staff are working around the clock to administer this to as many vulnerable patients as possible in this first rollout wave. “It’ll certainly be interesting to see if these trials are effective. But it’s important that any new treatments are thoroughly researched, scrutinised and, most importantly, safe before we consider introducing them.”