"De-Americanizing the World" a must, says Chomsky...

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  1. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    No, we are all "live beings" (as opposed to inanimate objects), all of us, Animals, Humans and Plants.

    Does not mean there are no essential differences.

    But to you it's "automatic",,,:rolleyes::biggrin::D
     
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    "Do As We Say, Not As We Do" :biggrin:
     
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  5. Galileo Figaro

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    Noam Chomsky is an intelligent man who, like Narcissus, falls in love with his own ideas. In his line of profession, linguistic research, that's a catastrophy. Therefore he also only produces incredibly stupid theories in that field, like his famous, but utterly silly grammatics.

    Not only that, he falls in love with his own ideas in the field of politics, which is his hobby horse. So much that what he says in this field too is utter crap. The article above is so full of logical fallacies that it would take several hours to weed it all out.

    NC is a communist, he hates his own country and he's intellectually twisted. However, even such a weirdo can sometimes get it right. Recently he confessed what many people already knew or suspected; That "anti-racism" is merely an attack on the American white working class. Which it is in other countries too, against their own working classes.

    Since I'm from Sweden I'll just comment on that admiration of the Scandinavian social-democracy. Sweden has at least three world records. No, not in handball or weight-lifting...

    The first record is having the highest taxes in the world.
    That means, unless you're rich and can avoid paying them, you will as a working person, be left with just enough to eat and means to get you to and from work. But those beautiful houses, new cars, sailing boats? All bought on credit. Lose your job and you'll lose everything you have (which you don't really have).

    The second record is that swedish men have the lowest testosteron levels of all the men in the world. Testosteron is the male hormon, what makes you into a man.
    This fact has been reported in the newspapers with pride. Be proud that you have practically no balls. Only a very sick society can be proud over something like this. But Sweden IS a very sick society. Those in power have invented a new word, to eradicate differences between the sexes in speech. In Swedish "he" is "han" (coming from the German word Hahn, meaning rooster), the word for "she" is "hon" (coming from the German word Huhne, meaning hen). And now the cultural marxists in power have invented a new genus, "hen" which doesn't mean anything, but invokes a feeling of describing a person which is sexually indeterminable. Hen was in fact the derogatory word for men who were behaving and talking like women. Fruits.

    The third record, which is probably connected with the second, is that Sweden is the most feminine country in the world. Also reported by the media with great pride. Contrast that to the old Romans whose word for virtue, "virtu", meant "manliness". Sweden is sinking and it will meet the same fate of other failed socialist utopias, like Argentina and Uruguay and later on Yugoslavia.

    I think that what people admire in Scandinavia is a well ordered society (btw built by men) where the trains go on time and people are kind to each other. But these things you can find in all economically well to do countries. I have seen it in all European countries I have been to. Even in poorer countries. Even in Kosovo which was the most primitive place I've seen. But even there people were decent and helpful.

    What our problem is, is the global refusal of people world wide to simply grow up. Take responsibility for at least our own lifes. Has anyone seen that Die Hard movie, think it's DH 4.0, where a fat guy around 30-35 sits in his momma's basement with a lot of computer gear? He calls it his "command central". That's what I mean. and if you want to know how it will end, se another movie, Idiocracy.
     
  6. gorski

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    I can sense a Narcissus right here and it has nothing to do with Noam, that's for sure...

    Incidentally, can we see your learned theories or at least critique of such theories, that hold water?

    That is not to say that I would take Chomsky's (or anyone's) theories uncritically but this... I mean... really...

    Lucky for us you have no balls (see later) to take up the challenge...:rolleyes:

    What has one thing to do with another, only a genius such as your grand self can figure out... :D

    Happy trolling...

    I lived in Sweden for three years and studied its system on a serious level, as a professional, for many more moons and I have to say that for that they get a helluva lot! Indeed, the most in the world! Especially the lower classes (their children get the best start in the world, for instance), mothers with young kids and so on...

    So, like any other capitalist country...:rolleyes: What's your point, then?

    But seriously, this is loads a BS!!! A construction worker in Sweden, for instance, has plenty of money because of their social deal, of which even some Swedes, it seems, have no idea and pay no respect to it, while trolling...:rolleyes:

    Any language has a word for "person" and one can't see a sex of the person in question, so what? Get over it. You fruit! :D

    Who is in power in Sweden? Boy, you are a bad MF right-winger, arentcha? :D

    As for low testosterone: http://www.mst.dk/English/Chemicals...endocrine_disruptors_and_combination_effects/ - but it is not limited to Scandinavia, as you may find...

    You are a Yugoslav, aren't you? I mean, talk about rhapsodic:rolleyes: "arguments", hahaha!!!!

    Nonsense! Go to Paris, you ignoramus!!! :D

    My, my, with such illustrious "sources", who can talk to you on the same level?:rolleyes:

    Oh, wait, wait, I know: Mr. Sylvester Stallone!!! :D
     
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  7. Galileo Figaro

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    No matter if you agree or disagree with me you could try debating in a civilized manner.
     
  8. gorski

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    What's 'civilised' about calling your elder and intellectually superior person of some integrity and standing a "weirdo":eek: or worse still - a "Commy" :confused: (if I were like you I would ask you something like "r u retarded or something?" :D ) and other assorted 'names'???:shutup:

    You right wingers are appalling, in your McCarthy smart-pants, so much so it's hilarious...:D

    And if any of it were true...:excl: Political gun-slinger like you are:negative:!!!!

    Hence my anger! :mad: (Lebbit, you're des-hpicable! :D )
     
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    Please explain how a country can have intent.

    A country is not a person. Personifying countries and organizations leads to bad policy, often with fatal consequences to innocent victims.
     
  10. Galileo Figaro

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    OK. I now see what I'm talking with.
    Goodbye.
     
  11. gorski

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    Yeah, I saw right through you immediately... In your own words: "A proper Swede"... (= "no balls" - only if he is calling others names, who btw can't defend themselves, as they are not here... swell!!! :rolleyes:):D
     
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    I recommed to you all to see BBC's documentaries made by Mr. Adam Curtis, especially "Power of Nightmares: The Rise Of The Politics Of Fear" That series of films made me to question my views of world politics. The other interesting documentary of the same author is "The Trap — What Happened to our Dream of Freedom".

    Here is "The Power Of Nightmares", episode 1:

    http://www.veoh.com/watch/v17126300... Nightmares: The Rise Of The Politics Of Fear
     
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    "Protego ergo obligo!" - much older than any of them... Look to Hobbes and co. for such "ideology", which allegedly no one cares about any more...:rolleyes:
     
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    Done deal for the global economy given debt, peak oil, and global warming.
     
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    question has a big sens ... but after what they did in Vietnam or recently in Irak - Afghanistan - Pakistan or still in Cuba with some abou graib way of being "friendly" : "De-Americanizing the World" they do it themselves even at home , like with the 3wtc of NY and 3 planes to destroy and take some "money" the 11 september 2001 ; the only guilty for this , is a french that was in jail when all that happened .

    beside this question , the world is having the biggest HOLOCAUST ever : it is called DE-PALESTINISATION , soon 70 years .
    mostly started by the english :vampire:and once again usa :shutup3: .
    beside this holocaust , the animals and plants are also suffering a lot because of humans , the global-warming is now started , all that energy that people used to "travel" coming petrol or from nuclear plants is now in the AIR ...
    i think its like the meteors that "killed" dinosaurs , except our "fire" was on hundred years long instead of minutes but the resulting effect will effect during thousands or millions years . what we see is just the starting of this event , it should get stronger ...and for sure too strong for 8 billions of humans o_O
     
  18. hanni.mannimeter

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    Yeah, its not like its just one country, its the humans nature :p

    In Germany, I am German, they always talk about how great their country is,
    but its the same as in any other. Media is telling all kinds of bulls**t and lies,
    but they really think its the truth and only bad people are Americans.

    As long as many people believe in your propaganda you can be successful.
     
  19. hanni.mannimeter

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    There is no global warming. A regional warming maybe, but that is normal and can change all the time.
    If the USA would have wanted to subdue Afghanistan or any other country they wouldnt have helped them form a new government and
    push millions of their money in that.

    I agree though it is unbelievable cruel what we do with animals. :(
     
  20. grml4d

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    no global warming ? have a look about uk and france : they are swampy these days :jockey:
    What about Karzai ? he was a usa'restaurant owner and have been "propelled" president ...
    the talibans were the organ that ruled this country : no drug and no technology : even phone .
    usa-gwbush-usrahell cried that they did the 11 september 2001 with bin laden....that in fact was creating videos in a big house in the suburbs of a big pakistan 's town...
    the master criminal being killed in cold blood by obamiam-miam while he was in the hands of militaries....:worthy::worthy: :eek:

    for the de-americanimation of the whole world : i think its OTHER :hug2::tea::p;):shisha::biggrin:
    thanks to Victoria Nuland.U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Europe, that said "f**k europe" about the troubles in Ukraine...usa is now spied by the whole world and their secret codes are cracked , no one trust the usa.gov anymore ....like a LOT of citizens from this "box" .