"De-Americanizing the World" a must, says Chomsky...

The problem with a thread like this is there is too much nationalism and talk of some American system or America as if there is one thing. You're talking about capitalism, a system with no border that people and governments are participating in. Americanism is a thing viewed from the eyes of people who are nationalistic in their own right and don't realize what they are dealing with. There is no failing U.S. Civilization. If anything, the "civilization" within the US is becoming more stable, more educated, less crime ridden. The economic system run by corporations is just another deal. Its not something the Chinese govt can just take over, because its something they participate in. Even with their influence they will find there are things that don't work as well when theory is applied vs the real world and they will go back to what works. Its an ever changing virus that can't be contained and molded. You want to beat it, you have to regulate everything and take away any efficiency that it has. That might mean harmony for much of the world, but its vacuum will be filled with another greedy system.

In other words, get off the high horse. Someone feels the same way about your system as you do about anothers'

 

Any anti American sentiment that may be felt or expressed here should be checked with the very real historical fact that this melting pot has it's roots in Europe and every other country on the planet ..

Some reading to shine a light on the international rather than solely American problem at hand .. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/19/world-wealth-oxfam_n_6499798.html

@rantanamo

Read these articles before you comment on stability ..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/28/child-poverty-us_n_6054958.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/15/preschool-students-poverty_n_5680737.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carol-j-carter/why-arent-low-income-stud_b_2909180.html

 

@rantanamo; i sincerely think there is no problem; no system; by nature water flows to the lowest point, inevitably. we cannot be all nationalists, we can call it an american world, of course, but the admiration for profit knows no borders. it is like water.. very predictable.. so who am i to tell my fellow men to look at the wicked world as i do?

 

Who cares about Nationality, I'm against borders. I should be able to go anywhere I want without having to pass thru immigration. Who the hell came up with this idea of borders should be shot.

 

Wow, I am really surprised they let this thread go on MDL, with that being said.......

I am an American and proud of it, I proudly served my country during Desert Storm and would do it all over again, just like my father during the Vietnam conflict and my Grandfather in WWII.
Do I agree with my counties government and policies all of the time? certainly not.
Do I think my government lies to me, they sure do on a daily basis, but as an American I am ALLOWED to voice my opinion as we always do, we don't win every battle but we do win some, BUT you know what ....it's the best, s**ttiest, place to live on the planet.

All of these other countries condemn capitolism, you condemn it becuse you cannot have it much less understand it.

You condemn the U.S for protecting it's intrests in the world, just as any country that has that capability would, you condemn us for protecting ourselves and you condemn us for protecting you, YET when we leave to let you govern yourselves AFTER protecting you, you beg us to stay because the fact of the matter is that you cannot defend yourselves. It's probably safe to say more Americans have died defending soil in Europe / Asia/ and the middle east then have died defending their own home soil. We come to fight side by side with you because YOU ASK US TO, only to watch you run while we stand the ground and fight for YOU. Most that point fingers here and on other forums do not even have the intestinal fortitude to fight for their own country and beliefs but yet are the loudest in the forums.
What we should do is pull all of our troops home for one week and just leave the world to it's own devices for a week and not do anything, the world would fall into chaos. Our ships wouldn't even get off the 38th parallel and South Korea would fall to the north imediately...... every country in the Middle East would be kicking the s**t out of Israel, India and Pakistan would be at each others throat and while all that was happening Putin's Russia would just march right on through the Balkins.

You should take a look at your own world before condemning ours ...
Can you speak ill about your governemnt in a public forum and not wind up in jail directly after doing so? .... I can.
Do you have the freedom to travel to wherever you want whenever you want? ..... I can.
Do you have the freedom to surf the net unrestricted (within reason) without constant uses of vpns and such to navigate blocked sites .... I do.
Can you work everyday and earn a weekly paycheck that allows you to support your family without falling into poverty? .... I can.
Can you go to sleep at night without the fear of waking up the next day and your country be under military rule, a coup or over run by another country? .... I can, thankfully to the blanket of protection that our Military provides us Americans.

If you have answered no to any of the above and the thousands more I can throw at you then you need not be here condemning me and my nation because you have more problems within your own that needs to be addressed. Stop coveting and condemning what I have and take care of your own backyard.

There is no "De-Americanizing" anything because it is you who wants to be like me, and because you can't you condemn me. Do you not understand that if the three major economies on this planet fell tomorrow you would all starve?
We (the major economies) keep the balance, without us the rest of the world would just fall into chaos.

My President is just that ..... a President, a figure head, he is only one man, don't judge a whole society because of one mans stupidity because you know what? there will be another asshole right behind him when he I is done, gone and out of office, it doesn't mean that I put him there and gave him permission to make some of the idiotic decisions that he has made or will make.

 

Ok Igor .... LMAO! BTW how are those sanctions working out for you guys over in Russia?
Give it a couple more years and you guys will be waiting on lines a mile long just to buy one roll of toilet paper that will cost you a weeks pay because YOUR "President" could not give two s**ts about it's own people and would rather re consume what formerly broke away....... because Russia was just such a great place to live.
Things are getting so bad in Russia even Cuba is re establishing relations with the U.S., just something else breaking away from Mother Russia, but ..... Russia is such a great place!? Once again Cuba will become the paradise it once was and not the desolate wasteland that your country created.

Look at us right now my friend, at this moment in time the U.S. has pretty much the entire world at it's side .... look around you.... who stands with Russia? .... pretty much no one and anyone who does dares not speak up, why? because America defends those who cannot defend themselves and this really pisses Putin off, it pisses Putin off that he has NATO in his own backyard and cannot reclaim what was formerly the USSR without starting a war. It pisses Putin off that he cannot go to ANY sumit without being shunned and having the Ukraine shoved up his ass .... but Russia is such a great place.
Its only a matter of time until the iron curtain goes back up and gulags are reinstated.
Like I said, clean up your own backyard.
Oh and just so you know .... Canada is pretty much the U.S. just with a different flag.

 

The Achilles heel (greatest vulnerability) is it's blind patriotism or it's belief in "American exceptionalism" .. There are American corporations and now multinational corporations that feed this belief continuously with media campaigns and word smiths that craft a result that only supports their profits yet the word smiths have cloaked their message in a way to give it some moral or humanitarian high ground to make it palatable to the masses ..

It is my opinion that there is not a single ego which celebrates some sort of national pride that has clean hands when we look at the current global dilemma .. Make no mistake as you sit at your table each day for your evening meal and there is no place for world peace there you are part of the problem ..

I too served my country during a time of war however this gives me nothing to be proud of .. I know now that there is not a single Army in the world which does not have as a recruitment tool the exploitation of the young, needy, and most impressionable .. There is no armed nation that should have anything to be proud of for this very reason ..

For my fellow Americans I encourage you to read this ..

 

Ahem ... might I ask Dark Knight a serious question.
Forget about all the oil stealing agendas, who the hell asked the USA to police the world ?

 

The richest 1%

 

I feel so embarrassed sometimes ...

 

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