[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Enterprise/IoT Enterprise (N) LTSC 2021

Dissuading != explaining or suggesting.

Aside that everyone should have his share of pain to learn to drive a bicycle. Leaning involves both listening from more experience people AND also doing something wrong.

I did stupid or debatable things when I started, you did as well, I'm sure. It's natural. it's normal.

Not sure what you do for living, but keep in mind that not every sysadmin works h24 for a big corporation, here most companies are medium, small or very small, most of them don't have a full time jobs, because not needed, because they can't afford a full time technician, or both. Most companies calls once a week or once a month, usually to solve an emergency. So, yes being in hurry is the norm, not the exception.

Aside that an in place upgrade, nowadays involves few minutes, and assuming you discover that a multimedia feature is needed to your VM who runs (say) a db server you can enable the MFP and magically, in 2 minutes, your N install becomes equal to a standard one. So where's the problem?

No, there may be limited scenarios to use N versions, but for sure there is zero reason to be a N hater.

Perhaps it's not just matter of spared ram and storage, it's also matter of reduced attack surface.

Being young and attracted by the novelty, no matter if good or harmful, may look stupid, but is also the seed of the evolution. Works this way not just for humans, but also for most animals, I'm sure you were the same when you were a teenager. You did your share of stupid things (and in the meantime you learned a lot of things ).

Yep, I'm capable (I did my share of stupid things as well, but was mostly during the past millennium )

 

So you are actually quite the N fan, seeing how you write strong words like "N hater" to describe what has been really grounded reasons with practical examples where N versions fall flat.
Counter arguments? Size? Do show a comparison. "MFP and magically, in 2 minutes, your N install becomes equal to a standard one"? Factually wrong, it does not become equal as evidenced by many remaining issues.
You've used stupid a lot, with direct parallel to what I might have done. I got news for you: I almost never consciously did the stupid thing at the time
Well, except the recent catroot2 thing. Note to self: If @abbodi1406 tells you to stop abusing catroot2, you should just listen!
I have seen the error of my ways while reviewing EOS Windows 10 versions - where the clearing of catroot2 supposedly brief slow down now lingers quite a lot more than in 1904x+ builds.
So I'm now reworking windows_update_refresh.bat to help more on EOS versions (with optional feature updates blocking). Yes, I still use EOS versions in various potatoes.

 

Call it hate, call it idiosyncrasy, call it you are against N "by principle", while I'm not a N fanboy. I just explained that there are situations where it make sense, not more not less.

Pretty simple they are about 60/70/80 MB of heavily compressed files, something like 300MB of files once installed (excluding Mediaplayer databases and other things like that).

It's not huge but it's not irrelevant either

I'm sure you got the point, I've talked about what every kid does... you, me, everyone... surely I didn't mind to be offensive to a single person.

Again I'm sure you got my point. No one does something stupid consciously... Usually something that seemed smart 15 years ago, seem dumb today.

Forgive me but here I've no idea of what you are talking about, I was busy recently so I missed "recent things".

That said I don't want to talk anymore about an argument which is less than fundamental for me, like the N thing. We expressed our respective opinions, every reader can build his own idea reading what we already wrote. Dragging it further will become boring.

 

You're the one that raised concerns about newbies being dissuaded from using N via false/partial arguments, while it's such a great choice for sysadmins in hurry, being ~ 300MB slimmer (called it first).
And after dissecting my replies, now you wanna leave without taking your beating - boring ha Ha! It's all good, even if you can't admit that N is a futile exercise

 

Hi, everyone! I installed Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 on my Thinkpad X200 and the Process/Service wsappx eats up one CPU thread. Somebody else had this problem already, but no solutions have worked for me. I tried disabling the store, installing VC libs appx, disabling the keys in the registry. Does anybody here know what the actual problem is, and has a working solution for it?

P.S. This only happens on 2021 version, 2019 is fine.

 

I meant disabling the store value in the Group Policy Editor, which is one of the suggestions I have seen on the internet. Also, by "disabling" I meant enabling the policy, since enabling the policy disables the store, as it says in the description of that policy. Anyhow, this is more-or-less off-topic, I'm looking for a solution to the actual problem.

 

But LTSC 2021 does not have the Store.

 

And I never said that it did. But the reason Group Policy might have had to do something with it, is because wsappx is somewhat related to the store or some other metro apps. So my thinking was, perhaps of that policy, it was trying to install the Store, but couldn't. But after disabling the Store Policy nothing changed, so I don't know what the problem is.

 

I proved your arguments were weak to say the best. I think It's enough.

Being experienced shouldn't lead to be elitist. Especially when elitism is pushed with highly debatable claims, like in such case.

That's all.

 

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As opposed to your "solid" arguments, nothing more than a vehicle for ill-intended jabs.
Quality, I possess something, I'm fresh
When my voice goes through the rest
Of the microphone that I am holding
Copy written lyrics so they can't be stolen
If they are snap
Don't need the police to try to save them
Your voice will seize, so please, stay off my back
Or I will attack and you don't want that

 

Frankly looks like you are way better interfacing yourself with powershell than with human beings.

I guess that Facebook ruined the capability of most people to have a plain, friendly discussion about the topic, like good old forums used to be, which is sad, especially when the discussed matter is really a minor thing like what we discussed above.

 

You need to install the missing Microsoft.VCLibs APPX package and restart the OS:

https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...rprise-n-ltsc-2021.84509/page-12#post-1705806

 

Didn't I say in that message that I tried installing VC libs appx already?

 

Did you install them for all accounts or just for the current account (Add-ProvisionedAppxPackage vs Add-AppxPackage)?

 

I did Add-AppxPackage, for the current account that is.