[DISCUSSION] Windows 10 Technical Preview Build 9926

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  1. FreelanceX

    FreelanceX MDL Junior Member

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    In what way? Because I would never run games through a virtual machine (of any type) if that's what you mean? If not, I dont have any issues playing games on my machines with Hyper-V running.
     
  2. arseny92

    arseny92 MDL Secret Weapon

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    #1422 arseny92, Feb 14, 2015
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    Hyper-V has been around ever since Windows 8.0, or even much earlier on server systems (those do not require EPT/SLAT).
    SLAT has been around in almost the entire Intel Core line since generation 1. Some configurations can however, lock out configurability of VT-x.

    Considering that eg the Xbox One runs two virtualized systems in Hyper-V without said "issues", and a third to overlay the two, claims of the hypervisor interfering with gaming are invalid.
    Its funny how people start to discuss that, while on the background for example, most people use Android, and don't realize that it slows everything down due to hosting everything in a Java VM..

    Guys, wouldn't you mind if we get back on topic?
     
  3. nicktorn

    nicktorn MDL Member

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    Noted. I wanted to keep that around just in case of emergency, but if a spontaneous revert can happen, I guess I am better off getting rid of it.
     
  4. arseny92

    arseny92 MDL Secret Weapon

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    For the time being, officially it doesn't, but may be forced using a very dangerous trick on almost any Windows Phone 8.x.
     
  5. Hadron-Curious

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    It would be difficult to get it working on a localized flagship and forcing it might brick it altogether.
     
  6. ZaForD

    ZaForD MDL Expert

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    Still not enough time to find bugs, let alone fix them or find work rounds. :(

    Control Panel -> Advanced System Settings -> Hardware -> Device Installation Settings.
    I hate the way Realtek, AMD/ATI, nVida, etc... ship out 200/300mb driver bundles. When you only need 5/10mb of files for the components to work. :eek:
     
  7. ZaForD

    ZaForD MDL Expert

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    #1427 ZaForD, Feb 15, 2015
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    Try them both out for a couple of weeks, only you can really tell which one is best.
    For me its still Hyper-V :p

    Yeah, it even runs on my Atom based 7" tablet, (Yes, I was silly enough to install Pro x64 on it :eek:)
    Although theres no room or RAM for anything but a tiny Linux distro :p

    That's MS and their great naming system. :(
    Both the Type 1 and Type 2 MS Hypervisors are called Hyper-V o_O

    Remember the Xbone is a Type 1 Hypervisor so the VM's are getting full access to the hardware, which will also help.

    /back on topic..
    I'm looking forward to seeing how Windows 10 will actually run on the Xbone. Finally a use for my £500 door stop. :worthy:

    Doesn't it only work on phones with SD Cards, i.e. Non-Flagship phones?
     
  8. arseny92

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    It work on almost any phone, except Samsung Ativ S which has some bootloader bug preventing installation of new Microsoft updates. These need a fresh BSP before be allowed to update any further as the current RTM/PFD.
    As for phones without SD, the same trick (in a bit modified form, but results in same registry editing) involves using Fiddler to intercept the configuration file (that the Windows Insider app uses to read phone information, and acts upon what is set in there), modify the file on the fly on the web request, the Insider app does the same dangerous registry edits (based on what is modified) to fool the phone to be a supported device for the preview.

    Either way, this is very dangerous. As along Microsoft updates intended for the product type you set, this opens the device to be able to receive BSP updates of the model you set. Imagine HTC 8X being offered Lumia Denim and related drivers/firmware packages. It is well possible to end on a brick beyond reparability functions provided by WPRT/LSRT/NSU/CareSuite (or a RUU for HTC), if the UEFI gets updated to the wrong one, and FFU download mode will be out of business. In this case the only pill from this would be a low-level Qualcomm flasher, but no one would ever give you that, so the other way would be soldering out the NAND, flashing it on a JTAG and soldering back in (a bit less hassle in case if there is JTAG/COM/UART on the retail boards, which is quite doubtful).

    My phone is a Lumia 1520, it does have SD, and I have a 128GB card in, and it's a flagship, so...
     
  9. WardocsRevenge

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    it does nothing to gaming you where mislead
     
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  10. dudeluv

    dudeluv MDL Senior Member

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    Hyper-V works great for me. I have it on my 8.1 machine.
     
  11. ZaForD

    ZaForD MDL Expert

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    Ooop's didn't realise the 1520 took SD Cards. I thought the 830 was the highest. :eek:
    I know the 1020, 930 and my 925 don't.

    There always seems to be something with the Samsung phones, had to get some sort of USB JTAG device to fix the bootloader on my Omnia7 before I could use the 800 based ROM. And that was a scary update too ;)
     
  12. alexwilson

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    pierrejaquet is right, a few years ago there were reports of framerate drops in games when Hyper-V is enabled. I have never experienced such issues myself and would assume that if this ever was a problem for some it has been fixed in the meantime.

    I am running Windows 10 builds on Hyper-V and prefer it because it's integrated into Windows. I do have VirtualBox for Ubuntu though because Linux runs very poorly on Hyper-V and the integration is not very good.
     
  13. Shenj

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    #1433 Shenj, Feb 15, 2015
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    Yeah it hardly effects the running system, not sure if that's a recent thing but i 'accidently' played with Hyper-V on for months and didn't notice, disabled it and didn't notice a difference, maybe a few frames not sure.
     
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  14. jamescantello

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    Can you activate Windows 10 Build 9926 with a Windows 8.1 OEM key, and will it still have a time bomb or activate permanently. :tasty:
     
  15. PaulDesmond

    PaulDesmond MDL Magnet

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    any preview is timebombed :tasty:
     
  16. enotar

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    Quick one, I know it has been posted ¿here somewhere; How can I disable or enable Debug mode?
    Cmd screen opening when installing.
    thanks
     
  17. SpeedDream

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    just a quick quiestion,
    anyone knows if theres going to be a newer preview later? or its now straight to rtm by the end of the year?
     
  18. ZaForD

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    Anyway to resize the new Windows 10 Start Menu size when all apps have been unpinned from Start Menu.
     
  20. everesee

    everesee MDL Senior Member

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    Installed Windows 10 to my 32GB Lumia 925. Nearly stable... 1520s can install Windows 10 too... Make some search on xda :drive1:
     
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