Global Warming: Your opinion ....

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Is Global Warming man made or a natural cycle ?

  1. Yes, it is man made

  2. Undecided

  3. No, I think there is another reason for it

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  1. Yen

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    #1861 Yen, Aug 16, 2022
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    Which goal do you actually want to achieve with your way arguing?
    Your direction and content of what you are arguing has left my original content to which you had replied to. It has absolutely no relation to my content anymore.

    This is the bit you took to reply:
    The first two lines are facts, the third my idea of what is the right thing to do. (You can have another opinion, no prob.). Additionally I pointed on new generations of fission plants (with link) which should be used as transition energy if needed. 'The lesser of the two evils'..

    So where do you want to go with your sweeping blow?


    There is a major flaw at your arguments.
    You are confusing process base with 'common' behaviour of certain energy branches in the name of profit making.
    Fission produces radioactive waste. That is a process based FACT!

    To use a new wind turbine from China instead of recycling the old one is a behaviour in the name of profit making.

    The same 'confusion' on your part applies to growing potatoes.
    Growing potatoes from the perspective of the process itself produces absolutely no waste.
    It's a practice in the name of profit making that does. And that is namely overfertilization.

    When it comes to risk potential the 'amount' of waste is irrelevant. You should know that it's the dose that makes poison. And nuclear waste is toxic at low amounts.
    1kg of nitrate excess is far far less dangerous than 1kg of nuclear waste. Caesium 137, strontium 90, plutonium 239, etc..
    (It's actually sore that I have to write that).

    You can change a behaviour, but a process based fact you cannot!
     
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  2. gorski

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    How not to fall for the misanthropic, conservative BS... (It's fun, actually... :) )

     
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  3. gorski

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    His redacted most famous lecture:

     
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  4. Mr.X

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    Simple rule of thumb: don't believe any leftist propaganda crap dressed in pink color:

    Why You Shouldn’t Listen to Self-Serving Optimists Like Hans Rosling
     
  5. gorski

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    Yeah, listen to doomsday sayers, they know better... how to serve themselves better... but they do not know better than Hans!!!!

     
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  6. acer-5100

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    Hahaha.

    You started this discussion mocking the fact that Jesus was a Communist/Socialist, and ended with the above sentence.

    Circle closed. Game over!:D

    Insert coin to play again. :p
     
  7. murphy78

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    You're racist and the worst of humanity. See we can both make unfounded accusations based on no evidence.
     
  8. murphy78

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    First off, recycling in general needs to be more profitable than making the materials cost to make in the first place. If you can't get this right, your economy will collapse and your country will die. This isn't about greed, it's about sustainability. If you can't figure out how to recycle the materials well enough, then you need to develop better methods of recycling. This goes for all types of recycling for low levels of plastics to high levels of industrial waste. Sometimes people need to be encouraged to purchase more recycled materials through awareness campaigns. The plastics industry has had a huge head start in advertising.

    Secondly, outsourcing your energy sector to China, isn't just about profit. China has the rare earth metals like lithium and the processing capability. There are a few other areas on Earth that have them, but if you don't have them in your country, or don't have them developed, they either need to get developed, or you need to abandon that line of production. Relying on other countries for rare earth metals is the most foolish thing you can do, especially with something as important as your energy sector.

    On the farming issue, everyone would starve if farmers didn't use fertilizer so that is a dumb argument. The only people arguing that farmers are using too much fertilizer are people who are trying to rob farmers of their land. Nobody would use too much fertilizer on purpose. There's no profit incentive.
     
  9. murphy78

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    I didn't say Jesus was a communist/socialist. I said they are similar in that they're both religious. Learn reading comprehension.
     
  10. gorski

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    No evidence?!? Moron, look at your own, quoted text!!!! How idiotic right-wing can you get?!?
     
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  11. murphy78

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    Go ahead genius. Tell me how pointing out that a violent conquering raping and pillaging people is racist. I have the exact same opinion on the old vikings and any other tribal barbarians that practiced that behavior. It's not racial or genetic. They don't do it now and I don't blame people for the sins of their fathers like racist leftists do.
     
  12. PointZero

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    #1872 PointZero, Aug 17, 2022
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    An old quote comes to mind when reading a member's posts in this thread:

    "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."

    edit: To make it clear, I'm referring to Murphy78's posts.
     
  13. murphy78

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    A pretentious quote for a pretentious person.
     
  14. gorski

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    There is no hope for you...

    And sadly, given the yous are in the majority - we're running out of time... We're doomed...
     
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  15. murphy78

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    Go ahead and tell me how printing a few trillion more dollars and exploding the government some more will solve the problem communist. That's seems to be the leftist solution for everything even though people bring up simple solutions like making some nuclear plants is easy and obtainable.
     
  16. Yen

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    It's no dumb argument. I argued on 'producing potatoes produces waste'.
    If you calculate the amount of fertilizer properly there is no excess nitrate, phosphate or potassium. Excess=waste. No excess, no waste at the process.
    I did not argue against the use of fertilizer.

    This is right, but you have to add the finite resource itself as being capital to the consideration 'being profitable'. At recycling you are keeping that capital within a cycle instead of to lose it as a waste.
     
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  17. Mr.X

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    Show us your college degree and don't blur anything on it!
    Who are you to assess who is and who is not? (rhetorical) nobody of course!
     
  18. gorski

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    Moronic, truly moronic!

    Show us your tortilla selling certificate by the Mehikan Tortilla Churning Authority...:rolleyes: Divvy!!!:p:D:p
     
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  20. Mr.X

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