[Guide]Way to Disable Keylogger/ Telemetry v3.55

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  1. LiteOS

    LiteOS Windowizer

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    Im with lited version windows 10 N LSTB
    i tested it for few days didn't find any something suspicious
     
  2. mrbbq

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    Don't let AcuraTML see you claiming you've stopped data going in or out. Apparently that's not possible in his fantastical world.
     
  3. shewolf

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    To know you need to try, otherwise the discussion is pointless. :p
     
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  4. mrbbq

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    I think he gave up before the "try" stage even occurred to him frankly. ;)

    At least some people understand that blocked = blocked, in a way that no magic is getting around it. I for one appreciate the effort going into things like that. Already added the new rules to my systems.
     
  5. Garbellano

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    Are you sure about that??. Its not that easy, if you change the default search engine, Cortana (DISABLED) still connect to m$. Check again.
     
  6. LiteOS

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    #806 LiteOS, Aug 14, 2015
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    which edition u using
    did u apply the new method ?

    i tested it again

    when resetting to default
    system PID 0 open port all over
     
  7. Garbellano

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    #807 Garbellano, Aug 14, 2015
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    with any sniffer.

    EDIT
    CONNECT client.wns.windows.com:443 HTTP/1.1
    Host: client.wns.windows.com:443

    A SSLv3-compatible ClientHello handshake was found. Fiddler extracted the parameters below.

    Version: 3.3 (TLS/1.2)
    Random: 55 CE 58 5D 65 75 C7 B0 51 D3 D8 69 51 8C D9 DF F7 1B AC FC 4B 45 1F 55 7D DE 7E 41 7B E8 DC D2
    "Time": 18-Aug-19 01:04:37
    SessionID: empty
    Extensions:
    server_name client.wns.windows.com
    elliptic_curves secp256r1 [0x17], secp384r1 [0x18]
    ec_point_formats uncompressed [0x0]
    signature_algs sha256_rsa, sha384_rsa, sha1_rsa, sha256_ecdsa, sha384_ecdsa, sha1_ecdsa, sha1_dsa, sha512_rsa, sha512_ecdsa
    SessionTicket empty
    extended_master_secret empty
    renegotiation_info 00
    Ciphers:
    [C030] TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
    [C02F] TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
    [C028] TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384
    [C027] TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
    [C014] TLS1_CK_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
    [C013] TLS1_CK_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
    [009F] TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
    [009E] TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
    [009D] TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
    [009C] TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
    [003D] TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
    [003C] TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
    [0035] TLS_RSA_AES_256_SHA
    [002F] TLS_RSA_AES_128_SHA
    [C02C] TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
    [C02B] TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
    [C024] TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384
    [C023] TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
    [C00A] TLS1_CK_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
    [C009] TLS1_CK_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
    [006A] TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
    [0040] TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
    [0038] TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_SHA
    [0032] TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_SHA
    [000A] SSL_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_SHA
    [0013] SSL_DHE_DSS_WITH_3DES_EDE_SHA
    [0005] SSL_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
    [0004] SSL_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_MD5

    Compression:
    [00] NO_COMPRESSION

    CONNECT watson.telemetry.microsoft.com:443 HTTP/1.1
    Host: watson.telemetry.microsoft.com:443

    A SSLv3-compatible ClientHello handshake was found. Fiddler extracted the parameters below.

    Version: 3.3 (TLS/1.2)
    Random: 55 CE 58 02 80 99 CC 2F 0C BB D3 C6 E0 78 C9 00 7B F4 FA 56 4A B2 45 B5 6D 48 52 C9 AE 93 7D 17
    "Time": 01-Apr-71 14:20:21
    SessionID: empty
    Extensions:
    server_name watson.telemetry.microsoft.com
    status_request OCSP - Implicit Responder
    elliptic_curves secp256r1 [0x17], secp384r1 [0x18]
    ec_point_formats uncompressed [0x0]
    signature_algs sha256_rsa, sha384_rsa, sha1_rsa, sha256_ecdsa, sha384_ecdsa, sha1_ecdsa, sha1_dsa, sha512_rsa, sha512_ecdsa
    SessionTicket empty
    extended_master_secret empty
    renegotiation_info 00
    Ciphers:
    [C030] TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
    [C02F] TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
    [C028] TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384
    [C027] TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
    [C014] TLS1_CK_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
    [C013] TLS1_CK_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
    [009F] TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
    [009E] TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
    [009D] TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
    [009C] TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
    [003D] TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
    [003C] TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
    [0035] TLS_RSA_AES_256_SHA
    [002F] TLS_RSA_AES_128_SHA
    [C02C] TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
    [C02B] TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
    [C024] TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384
    [C023] TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
    [C00A] TLS1_CK_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
    [C009] TLS1_CK_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA
    [006A] TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256
    [0040] TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256
    [0038] TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_256_SHA
    [0032] TLS_DHE_DSS_WITH_AES_128_SHA
    [000A] SSL_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_SHA
    [0013] SSL_DHE_DSS_WITH_3DES_EDE_SHA

    Compression:
    [00] NO_COMPRESSION

    Cortana STILL alive.
     
  8. Ache

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    What program made those connections? Cortana could be disabled via GP. SearchUI.exe in the same directory just integrated in the Cortana but not Cortana, it could be disabled by via FW.
     
  9. LiteOS

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    Did u run the blocking via fw cmd?
     
  10. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Cortana is the search app. It's supposed to use the internet. There's no point in having cortana if you don't want it to use the internet.
    It's entire function is to search the web for you.

    If you want to mirror the old functionality of the offline search box from win7, you need to disable cortana, block search from firewall settings, and disable the reg key for web search.

    Even then, you'd likely also need to disable the app toast telemetry.
     
  11. slayer9450

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    StartIsBack++ has it's own search functionality that's basically identical to Windows 7's and is independent of SearchUI.exe and ShellExperienceHost.exe. I'm never going to use Cortana. Ever. So why not just permanently remove Cortana instead disabling and firewalling it?
     
  12. LiteOS

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    I test search in server 2016 for small time its bit slow
    Mb its worth the hassle
     
  13. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    The only main reason is that it might potentially block upgrade to new release in a month or two.
     
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    #814 Elrick, Aug 15, 2015
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    Try to add it with reg. file but i don't see change in registry !!! admin right and path are good, Strange !
    Can you export it from firewall interface in txt format please ?
    Many thks.
     
  15. Ache

    Ache MDL Novice

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    ClassicShell too, but their functionality does not mean that standard win components are free to behave like junk, for obvious reasons.
     
  16. shewolf

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    #816 shewolf, Aug 15, 2015
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 20, 2017
    Code:
    Name    Group    Profile    Enabled    Action    Override    Program    Local Address    Remote Address    Protocol    Local Port    Remote Port    Authorized Computers    Authorized Local Principals    Local User Owner    Application Package    
    
    Block All Out traffic from Explorer        All    Yes    Block    No    %SystemRoot%\explorer.exe    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any
        
    Block All Out traffic from WinDefend        All    Yes    Block    No    %ProgramFiles%\Windows Defender\MsMpEng.exe    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any
        
    Block Out  from MRT        All    Yes    Block    No    %SystemRoot%\System32\MRT.exe    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any
        
    Microsoft Blocklist IP        All    Yes    Block    No    Any    Any    8.18.0.0/16, 23.45.0.0/16, 23.99.0.0/16, 23.102.0.0/16, 23.203.0.0/16, 64.4.0.0/16, 64.20.0.0/16, 65.52.0.0/16, 65.55.0.0/16, 69.172.0.0/16, 74.125.0.0/16, 93.184.0.0/16, 131.253.0.0/16, 134.170.0.0/16, 137.117.0.0/16, 161.69.0.0/16, 168.62.0.0/16, 178.255.0.0/16, 191.236.0.0/14, 199.166.0.0/16, 204.79.0.0/16    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any
        
    Microsoft Malware Protection Command Line Utility        All    Yes    Block    No    C:\program files\windows defender\mpcmdrun.exe    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any
        
    Microsoft Windows Search Indexer        All    Yes    Block    No    C:\windows\system32\searchindexer.exe    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    
    
    
    Process for Windows Services [IKEEXT]        All    Yes    Block    No    C:\windows\system32\svchost.exe    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    
    
    
    Search and Cortana application        All    Yes    Block    No    C:\windows\systemapps\microsoft.windows.cortana_cw5n1h2txyewy\searchui.exe    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    microsoft.windows.cortana_cw5n1h2txyewy    
    
    
    Search application        All    Yes    Block    No    C:\windows\systemapps\microsoft.windows.cortana_cw5n1h2txyewy\searchui.exe    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    
    
    
    SIH Client        All    Yes    Block    No    C:\windows\system32\sihclient.exe    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    
    
    
    Windows Applications (auto)        All    Yes    Block    No    C:\Windows\system32\wwahost.exe    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    
    
    
    Windows Defender User Interface        All    Yes    Block    No    C:\program files\windows defender\msascui.exe    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any
        
    Windows Dmwappushservice        All    Yes    Block    No    C:\windows\system32\svchost.exe    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    
    
    
    Windows host process (Rundll32)        All    Yes    Block    No    C:\windows\system32\rundll32.exe    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any
        
    Windows Problem Reporting        All    Yes    Block    No    C:\windows\system32\wermgr.exe    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    
    
    
    Windows Telemetry        All    Yes    Block    No    C:\windows\system32\svchost.exe    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    Any    
    
    
    
     
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  17. Vico

    Vico MDL Junior Member

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    Do you think this will work? here is my idea:
    Make a proxy (pfsense etc.) and allow the internet only via that proxy. So any programs that I use I will put in the proxy (Firefox, Steam etc).
    Will this method solve this spying/telemetry issue? Since windows itself won't have access to the internet...
     
  18. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    It might help your privacy, but it's not a solution for the masses.
    Millions of people can't start using proxies.
    Also, a lot of sites ban proxies; which causes a lot of grief if you're using one.
     
  19. Vico

    Vico MDL Junior Member

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    What about a local proxy. Only on the local network...? or am i not understating proxies correctly? :g:
    So websites will still see my public ip and not a proxy...?
     
  20. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    It depends on the proxy. Some proxies are transparent.
    I'm not sure what you mean by local proxy.
    I would think that anything local would defeat the purpose of using a proxy as they'd know where you are.

    we'll figure out the best ways to handle these privacy settings.
    It just needs a little more time.
    If none of us had anything else to do we could sit here and fiddle with the settings, but sadly a lot of us are busy.