[Not working anymore] How to upgrade from W7/8.1 without going through the complete upgrade process

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  1. oneLess

    oneLess MDL Junior Member

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    #1901 oneLess, Aug 7, 2018
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    it is not true.
    you can install windows 7 on ANY newer mainboard [for now]
    if you insert newer drivers in windows 7 kit. [for newer chipsets and usb 3.x]

    just search for proper tools.

    use anyway for that a 64bit windows 7 kit , not an 32bit. [I had errors]
    a dazzed ticket grabbed from win 7 64bit works anyway on win 10 32bit and viceversa.

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    and you don't need other drivers on win 7 , only one of ethernet or wi-fi ,
    ms servers record only hardware IDs not your driver versions.
    internet on , when you will generate the ticket and to be autoregisted on ms servers.
    just that .

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  2. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    ^^on mbr bios hdd daz works perfectly but using daz loader on a uefi gpt partition hdd is complicated.
     
  3. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    First time hearing this,what exactly you mean by "fiddling".
     
  4. Flipp3r

    Flipp3r MDL Expert

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    The mac address is tied in with the digital license. On some motherboards with intel nic, if you update the bios/uefi with fpt (intel flash programming tool) without using the "-savemac" switch your mac address is wiped.
    You can also loose sn, uuid, etc with fpt.
     
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  5. pf100

    pf100 Duct Tape Coder

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    Making -savemac not default is stupid beyond belief. Intel knows that Windows 10 uses the mac address as part of activation yet chooses to probably kill activation anyway.
     
  6. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    I would think that anyone willing to use such a tool would already be knowing about transferring license using ms account.I also don't know why would anyone want to even use such a tool in today's time(assuming slic insertion).
     
  7. Senjanov

    Senjanov MDL Member

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    I wonder what will happen if I replace 500Gb hdd to 1Tb hdd. before that windows was activated with GenuineTicket.xml. Windows activation will fail or not, I did not use KMS before only generated a ticket from Windows 7.
     
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  8. Saurav

    Saurav MDL Addicted

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    Hard drive change shouldn't affect activation as long as the Mainboard is same.
     
  9. Senjanov

    Senjanov MDL Member

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    how about replacing hdd also upgrade ram. mainboard still nothing change.
     
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  10. joluboga

    joluboga MDL Member

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    The activation will go as planned, just don't change the motherboard.
     
  11. Senjanov

    Senjanov MDL Member

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    I wont go so far to change motherboard laptops :D
    I'll try and report after finised, I'm still copy and clear my 1tb drive
     
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  12. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    Just for info,replacing dvd drive of a laptop with a ssd counts as a new system even if you clone the activated hdd to ssd.Activated hdd windows status will remain unchanged though but cloned windows install on ssd will not be activated.

    @Enthousiast any tips/help/info regarding such situations.
     
  13. Yen

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    #1913 Yen, Aug 21, 2018
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    Replacement of DVD with SSD should trigger activation if I'd clone the system to SSD, but if not it'll remain??!?
    That would mean the system drives' hardware ID would play a role as well although it is actually no HW change....are you sure?
     
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  14. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    My own experience:
    Replaced dvd drive of a laptop running win 8.1 pro activated with ssd(using a caddy).Used aomei partition assistant pro to migrate OS to ssd.On next reboot selected ssd as 1st boot option & win 8.1 install successfully booted but with no activation.Again rebooted laptop with hdd as 1st boot option & same win 8.1 install is still activated.Replaced hdd with ssd for testing & still no activation.It seems as if win 8.1 install somehow considers a laptop with two hdd drives as a new system unless the original install is located on original hdd connected to primary sata port of the laptop.
     
  15. stefan7

    stefan7 MDL Novice

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    i have w10 pro vl installed on a hdd activated with kms, gpt partitions.

    now i want to remove the hdd and replace it with an ssd and do a fresh install of w10 pro and change to retail, can i use the virtual box method first on the hdd, install w7/daz/gatherosstate or w8.1 and do a full w10 upgrade inside box? will there be a problem with the transfer digital license method even though my microsoft account sees that i have vl license now?
     
  16. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    Do the usual upgrade to win 10 inside virtual box from daz activated win 7,no need for gatherosstate way as it may have issues inside a virtual machine.DL License transfer only depends on linked MS account & has no relation to which win 10 version was earlier activated on the same system/hardware.

    P.S. A single MS account can have multiple license of different eligible versions linked to it too.The account will activate the version which is installed.e.g.an account has home & pro license linked & you install win 10 home then by using that MS account win 10 home will be activated.
     
  17. Nsowon

    Nsowon MDL Novice

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    Hi,

    I want to buy a Chinese Xiaomi Air for my Daughter and install and activate WIndows 7 with DAZ loader, and then upgrade to Windows 10. (The OS is Chinese single language only and cannot be changed - unless someone knows otherwise).

    Will Daz Loader install on the 13.3" Xiaomi Air?
    When activated, can i then upgrade to Windows 10 using the details in the first post?

    Thanks for any input.
     
  18. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    @xinso may know better about chinese versions of win 10 os.
     
  19. das1996

    das1996 MDL Novice

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    Thanks! Success!

    Daz win 7 (in a vm) ---> genuineticket.xml --> win10 1803. Had to manually add the 3v66t key.
     
  20. DjDiabolik

    DjDiabolik MDL Novice

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    mmmmmmmmmm... i have right now a Sony Vaio notebook and the owner had ask to me to upgrade to win 10. Currently there's have 8.1 (i have installed it about two years ago if i remember) and i thinks it's a good idea to use this guide.
    I'm stay right now to download a "consumer edition" of windows 10 iso be the SVF2ISO (gui edition) and i know the currently microsoft account logged on current 8.1 installation...... you thinks i can use this to do a full clean re-installation and activate windows 10 whitout any trouble ?

    My question it's.... but how i can make a offline installation of windows 10 ? I need to put my current username during the setup or not ?