http://slicbios.wikidot.com/ closed down

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by amdworldx, Aug 3, 2009.

  1. ZakMcRofl

    ZakMcRofl MDL Member

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    The password protection is something I suggested, too. But it would only tie the wiki stronger to MDL which unwanted due to the increased exposure.

    The entire site is still there so I can re-open as soon as the mods give me the go-ahead. As I said earlier I am willing to give full control to any MDL moderator, my only motivation is to help out noobs.

    I still believe it was a good idea but since MDL is choosing to "lay low" for a while, I will respect that until I hear otherwise.
     
  2. colinzim

    colinzim MDL Senior Member

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    #22 colinzim, Aug 4, 2009
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    There are several issues to this but I'm sure that I'd rather have someone who's done bios mods to post them rather than someone who thinks they did a good mod. There were people on the wikidot that said several mods posted did not work. You are on a forum with people who "wrote the book" on bios modding. That sounds "safer" than those posts on wikidot.
    And to correct there was a negative comment - mine -

    Seems none of the admins/moderators here were consulted first. Would have been a good idea. Life and this forum are about respect and I'm glad you've shown that.
    I've found ALL the mods I've looked for using the built-in google search function in MDL.

    P.S. Of-course M$ is in here. You think they don't have google ?
     
  3. bgage

    bgage MDL Senior Member

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    ZakMcRofl I know you're trying to help here, I'm sure MDL team appreciated that... I just wanna share my point of view as a member here...

    The first time I came across this site,
    Did I know anything about activation using BIOS mod? No...
    Interested about activated using BIOS mod? Yes...
    Confused about where do I have to start learning all of this stuff? Yes...
    Troubled searching for BIOS files in a ton of thread? Kind of at first...

    I think a lot of new members experience the same thing as I did back there... at some point. But the response to that is differs...
    1. Majority would start a new thread asking question/request for mod
    2. Many would managed to find the right thread and requesting for mod
    3. Some using search/All Slic to find BIOS first and if they didn't find it they will ask for mod
    4. little start to read to understand what is all about, the activation process, the method, etc and try to mod themself then if everything fails they asked senior modder for help.

    As for me, luckily I'm a type 4... After a long process of learning and now be able to do my own mod... is it worth it? 100% yes ;)

    As for the other type... Let me ask you all one important question... If you get activation the "proper (OEM) way" for your OS without worry that WGA update will kill your OS, is it worth it to search a while/wait around to get it?

    I know this project will help a lot of new members... But on the other hand many of them even didn't even know the basic of flashing or how to use the modded BIOS simply because they go for the easy way :eek:. Well like the old saying "No Pain No Gain"

    So why not contribute on helping new members by teaching them learning to search/read the right guide in this forum. As we know most people wanna go for express way but in the end they lost in their way :p

    Cheers to all :)
     
  4. ZakMcRofl

    ZakMcRofl MDL Member

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    Your comment was made an hour before the thread got closed and I saw both of them at the same time. What I meant was that the wiki had been up for 4 days before that and nobody spoke out against the idea itself.

    As long as we agree that something has to be done about the current chaos, that's fine by me. The method is irrelevant.
     
  5. kukubau

    kukubau MDL Addicted

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    True, but the info is all scattered in a thousand threads. I doubt that you guys will be able to put it all together soon.
     
  6. justinkb

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    #27 justinkb, Aug 4, 2009
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    in my country there is nothing illegal about hexediting a bios rom ...

    as for the tutorials... if you can't understand the lenovo way tutorial as its posted right now... you probably shouldnt even try to do these mods.

    you'll be bricking motherboards for sure. and we don't want that.
     
  7. ZakMcRofl

    ZakMcRofl MDL Member

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    I saw that zort opened a collection thread like in the Vista forum. I sincerely wish him the best of luck to keep it updated all alone, it will be a lot of work.
    I added a link to his thread to the old wiki page, somebody should transfer the confirmed wiki entries to his thread.
     
  8. bgage

    bgage MDL Senior Member

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  9. bgage

    bgage MDL Senior Member

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    Same like internet... info is scattered in a thousand web... what you seek is what you get :D
     
  10. amdworldx

    amdworldx MDL Novice

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    Well if you confuse then ask... If you can help other members who confuse then help... I think thats the community forum is all about... Helping each other ;)


    this is a perfect example bad broken english basically dont use if you dont understand it . bgage think before you write you were not quoted has saying

    Am I accusing the site for money making source? I guess not... What line I wrote implying that?

    it is not about being simple it is about explaining in a way that the new user alongside an experienced has the chance to understand.

    bgage you are missing the point of the discussion the point is to create a simplified understandable guide for all .just because you have done a so called mod does that make you think you can write a guide that is useable . i think not.
     
  11. Yen

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    If you think the instructions how to mod a bios are difficult to understand due to improper language / spelling, because it was written in a non native language (English) you shouldn't even try for a mod by yourself.
    IMO if someone is talented enough he is ABLE to reproduce the ways. I even used google translation of Chinese sources and I was able to do myself.

    Should it be easy to find a mod, to mod a bios?
    IMHO NO!

    The easier you can activate W7 the sooner m$ will go after it. That's a general fact, easy to understand for everybody.

    M$ is stating about bios mods, that it's only for a 'few' experienced users.
    The common user still don't use a biosmod.

    If you want to keep alive a way to activate an OS you have to hide the way to the common user.
    Believe it or not, it's a fact.

    I'm still feeling a bit uncomfortable about closing wiki, I'm sure it would be a good way to organise all the mods.

    But I'm sure it's the right decission for now.
     
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  12. bgage

    bgage MDL Senior Member

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    Well... I'm not trying to start a war here :p

    When you say how helpfull is answer that quotes do a search and then you end with 200 listings of confusing and often contradictory replies that means you confuse right?
    So asked (start a thread to ask or using available thread to ask)
    If there's a member who confuse, if you can then help, if not then there are other member who willing to help.... I don't know what broken and bad about that

    From the first I say that I gave my point of view as a member...
    Am I a modder? Maybe, I just contribute what I got from here back to the community
    Am I writing a guide? No. I'm not pro on writing stuff
    So why you attack me like that? Am I wrote arrogantly?
    I think I have a right to say on this matter like all other regular members :D

    So then according to you the point of this is to create a simplified understandable guide for all... From what I see is the wiki is for collecting all the bios already modded to one place so it easier to search by member...
    So there's no guide at all...
    Now Admin, moderator and MDL team closed it temporarily doesn't mean members can't find Modded BIOS files again right? They just have to do a little more effort to get it ;)
     
  13. amdworldx

    amdworldx MDL Novice

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    that means you confuse right? broken english !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    From what I see is the wiki is for collecting all the bios already modded to one place so it easier to search by member...
    exactly !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    simplifying the process .

    yen if someone even thinks of modifying there bios they are going to search and seek and use information . so if you have a source where there are known corrected and tested modified bios files that have been compiled then you reduce the risk of the user actually tampering with a bios .

    bgage i say again just because you successfully modified a bios does not imply you are experienced or non-experienced if you really want to shine in glory try resolving some other issues users are experiencing.

    all im asking is to create a simplified solution for publishing guides , this does not mean it is all relevant to just bios modding !!!!!!!!!!

    bgage its not a war it is a discussion and you are using my native language so appreciate what i am telling you that means you confuse right? broken english !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! corrected does that means you are confused ?
     
  14. justinkb

    justinkb MDL Member

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    i dont think this thread is going anywhere
     
  15. amdworldx

    amdworldx MDL Novice

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    no neither do I .

    :(
     
  16. Gonzakpo

    Gonzakpo MDL Member

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    I found this forum thru google so If you want to not call M$ attention we should do something about it. Just my two cents.
     
  17. micky1punch

    micky1punch MDL Junior Member

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    theres always two sides to an argument (your wrong side, and my right side ) :D

    joking aside

    transfer the list to a locked thread on the forums that can only be viewed by people that have contribuited to the forum (certain amount of posts, time etc) its done on many other forums..

    even if it meant i couldnt see it yet, id have to contribute more than i do now..

    the benefits are,

    it can only be altered by mods on this forum.

    it cant be viewed by anyone and everyone keeping the profile slightly lower.

    it stops people using this forum once only to get what they want then f**k off again without contribution.

    it will force people to understand the process of bios modding themselves before they can get the info (not the common user)

    Yen is correct, when a keygen is released to the public with a nice GUI that ANYBODY can use, it is soon bypassed (for any application)
    make bios modding the same, and manufacturers of these apps will concentrate on that, if 90% of the population were doing it wouldnt you?

    my two pennies :p
     
  18. ancestor(v)

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    I really appreciate your discussion, but the decision is already made. If this thread gets too flamy, I'll instantly close.
     
  19. colinzim

    colinzim MDL Senior Member

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    #40 colinzim, Aug 4, 2009
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    Thank You ^^^^

    transfer the list to a locked thread = best plan
    will also lock this out from Google searches.
    ALL OF My Digital Life Forums should be for members and not to be viewed until AFTER logon.
    Forums like Keznews etc have MEMBERS ONLY sections