Yen sir, can you explain how 'Absolute Spirit' is the logical conclusion to draw from methodological solipsism? To read more on Hegel's philosophy check here- http://www.sparknotes.com/philosophy/hegel/section3.rhtml http://www.sparknotes.com/philosophy/hegel/section1.rhtml http://www.sparknotes.com/philosophy/hegel/section2.rhtml http://www.sparknotes.com/philosophy/hegel/section4.rhtml
Here's the whole caboodle https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/ - thanx to the Hegelian Left...
Btw, just so there is no misunderstanding over the "West - East" issue: I think there is an awful lot of "eastern" mysticism around the world, from Latin America to a great deal of EU, as in Greece and Italy, Spain and onwards, especially in the former Stalinist part... You know, where people do not see themselves as Subjects but "fatum/kismet" rules, one shrugs off one's shoulders and keeps saying something like "Welcome to Italy" - to a perplexed foreigner asking awkward questions - and so nothing ever changes, as one just "can't be bothered"...
Again, applying a general rule to a particular case. I wonder why? The fatalism is mentioned over & over again and again in churchianity in order to instill fear since childhood, thus easier to control in adulthood. Want logic? Read this: http://www.estudantedavedanta.net/jnana-yoga-by-swami-vivekananda.pdf
But we're discussing about something else, check the thread title, not about humanity's general IQ...which is about 50, which it means it's handicapped. Which means it needs HELP! NOW!!!
Not from you! Humanity is not that stupid, if largely un- or under-educated and turned to values that are not exactly in line with its best nature... Seriously, though: you check the title and understand it - the subject is freedom and necessity and there aren't many posts that even started addressing this relationship... Moreover, Hegel is paradigmatic here, as his idea of "God/Absolute Spirit" is the least bad one we have, I think. So, his dialectical tension between the two certainly is more than instructive here... But don't let that stop you rambling on, instead of studying first, "claiming" later...
Methodological Solipsism. TBH never heard of it before. I can get the sense of the word Solipsism. (Solely, self). Although I don’t know what self means here, ego or subject. Last time when I had read Hegel (curiosity) I noticed that he ignored time itself. I am speaking of being inconsequent! The absolute spirit includes any dualism and ‘has’ transcended ‘anything’. “….how 'Absolute Spirit' is the logical conclusion”. What ‘was’ first absolute spirit ‘per se’ or methodological solipsism? To speak of has or will implies time which has not become. As conclusion he should have recognized that from the aspect of absolute spirit there is no evolution and if absolute spirit is available, it is now. Also it has no cause since there is no time where its cause could have existed. I have to admit it’s been a long time already. But since I have got a curious nature I will read again….just need spare time for it again. @gorski The easterners/westerners ‘issue’ is not the mystification. It is the inability of westerners to transcend time. A remark about S-O dualism. Isn't transcendence of it an evolutionary factor? I mean animal consciousness has no awareness of a separate identity. Human has got it....but it is changing relative to time. A pure ego identification (individual) 'develops' social aspects. Compassion develops, also Solidarity.... The mechanism is to extent the identification. A pure body individual (ego) becomes a human society, a collective. One recognizes the 'subject' as INDIFFERENT to: An other individual, another nation, the nature, the universe, consciousness itself..... When the S-O dualism has vanished what is 'left' then and what keeps it alive 'now'?
I wasn't offering anything. I wonder who to blame Science doesn't recognize the spirit, thus...cannot have an opinion about it. You agree with Hegel's p.o.v simply because it suits your beliefs. Straight on the subject: humanity knows 1 piece of the puzzle, while God knows the whole puzzle. Again, a 4D brain cannot understand an nD entity. All atheists out there pretend to lack to understand this basic thing. Why? Simply because this simple statement closes all the useless debates that the ego of man enjoys. Have fun with Hegel & all.
It seems you've reached your limit...close your eyes and step over it. Beauty starts outside the comfort zone.
I'm not a native English speaker and I'm not 100% sure what omniscient means. Google says it just means that God knows everything. So with that definition of omniscient I'd say yes, we are free! We can do whatever we want. God may know what we do, whatever we do, but that doesn't at all limit us. Nothing prevents us from doing it.
It still negates human free will, even if He (God) sees all the timelines and scenarios at once. From His perspective he sees what we will "freely" choose (despite all the factors that limit our freedom of choices/opportunities) and thus what we choose is already going to happen, or has already happened . The point being, if God has a plan then it's impossible for humans to deviate from that plan, thus negating free will.
@Sid: You can deviate from GODs' plan. GODs' plan is more of a suggestion than a commandment. Often times, deviating from the "plan" is a more difficult task. Eventually, we settle into GODs' plan and our lives seem to work better for us. That's GODs' way of showing you that A ) You have free will and You can deviate from the plan and B ) Even when You deviate from the plan, You will still learn important life-lessons, but ultimately, GODs' plan is the easier path to take. From this, we learn to trust GOD. GOD is not a single entity, in the sense of a being; GOD is like unto a government. A committee of -very- old souls who have walked many lives in this world. These souls are the ones who help You to choose your life path. Ultimately, You choose your own path. In Kabbalah, it is said that we choose our own destiny. For those who are interested, You can read about it here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabbalah
Hello Michaela mam, Greetings! If God exists- free will is just an illusion or simply doesn't exist. Given that God is all knowing, God already knows what will and will be, a human can not deviate from his fate that is already known by God. E.g- If "now" is only a relative concept, and if God transcends it, then from God's perspective everything happens at once, in which case God knows what choices human will freely make in the future because for Him, future events are seen in perfection superposition with everything else. And without God, free will probably doesn't exist due to humans being subject to their neuro-chemsitry and various biases.
Hiya Sid! Hope all is well with You and Yours. Free will does not exist if GOD meddles in the affairs of man. I have heard many people espouse anger at GOD for not stepping in and saving lives, or thwarting evil acts by others. In My heart I feel that, in order to preserve free will and choice, GOD does not interfere because GOD does not want to deprive mankind of free will by meddling in the affairs of Man. By stepping in and helping someone, sometimes we deprive that person of the freedom of choice, and ultimately we choose what appears to us to be the best path for them. This is not necessarily the right path for them. Ultimately, we may do more damage by assisting someone because we deprive them of the underlying lesson that needs to be learned by living through an adverse scenario. In My mind, it takes incredible strength, compassion and wisdom to allow a person to bear suffering and to experience loss, even though You know what the outcome will be, and you know what the pain feels like. It might be likened to a form of "tough love". A similar scenario exists where a child is on a destructive path, and the parents are not allowed to interfere. Sometimes, life happens that way. The parents will protect the child as best as they can, but the child is the one who must decide to change or choose a different path. If the parents meddle, they may end up driving the child away from them, or making things worse.
Now, what if God hasn't any plans? Why would God have any plans, anyway? What if the Human has a plan? And in order to fulfill that plan, the Human agreed to become "amnesic" while incarnated on Earth as human?