Is it just me or does Windows 8 SUCK?

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by berryracer, Jan 4, 2012.

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Do you like the new Windows 8 Interface?

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  1. jygoro

    jygoro MDL Senior Member

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  2. bb12489

    bb12489 MDL Novice

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    I have to say that after a few days of having it installed.... I'm kinda liking it! I'm using it both at home for personal use and gaming, as well as on my work desktop bound to a domain! I have to say that multitasking and productivity have definitely increased! Thing's are a lot easier to get to in my opinion, and the metro start screen is actually kinda cool once you get it organized to your liking. This is all coming from me who just a few days ago was cursing Windows 8 to no end....but I forced myself to learn new ways of using windows, and I have to say that they have definitely made improvements.


    What me and my co-workers are finding helpful in windows 8 is the RSAT (Remote Server Administration Tool) which is a separate download from Microsoft. This has introduced a new Active directory Administrative Center which has simplified looking up users, computers, groups, and resetting passwords for employee/students. So far I call windows 8 a win!
     
  3. CODYQX4

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  4. Blia

    Blia MDL Novice

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    I agree. The metro startmenu is confusing (maybe we'll all get used to it but it's not really user-friendly).
    Maybe Microsoft will change their mind (later) and bring the old orb Startmenu back. I hope so.
     
  5. dareckibmw

    dareckibmw MDL Expert

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    I just showed it to my Wife....her simple answer was; WTF is that !?! .....normally she doesn't swear :D
     
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  6. worfking

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    i installed windows 8 on this machine and i tried it out. was not impressed. even with 10 gigs of ram it seems slower than windows 7. the metro interface worked but i dont like the way it lays out on my screen.
     
  7. Michel

    Michel MDL Expert

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    Just tested it for the second day, the boot time is a bit better but i really don't like the metro crap + the start bar that got deleted. I also do like the deleting files stuff while it instant delete files instead of asking ''are you sure yes/no''. Other then that i say stick with windows 7 .... windows 8 is really crap and can be used as toilet paper.

    Windows 8 = Vista 2
     
  8. jayblok

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    the only thing i really like about win8 is the file transfer speeds,i hope it is included in the SP2 for windows 7 :D
     
  9. juzz

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    I don't get this "faster boot time" hype. I mean how many times a day you boot your PC? 1? 2? 3? You save what 10-20 seconds a day of your time that you can spend making morning coffee or changing clothes or eating breakfast or what ever

    Also start menu is irrelevant. Why would I want to start apps trough several menues? Quick launch bar ftw :p
     
  10. KevinN206

    KevinN206 MDL Novice

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    Doesn't it just move to the Recycle Bin by default? If you want, re-enable the confirmation option in the Recycle Bin property.
     
  11. KevinN206

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    That's weird. My laptop with ULV SU3500 (1.4 GHz) with 4GB is much faster than 7 in almost everything. The only thing that I find slightly slower is getting to the restart/sleep/shutdown menu. But that's about it.

    Restart, sleep, shutdown
    Reconnect to internet after wake-up
    Resume from sleep
    etc... much faster than Windows 7
     
  12. Michel

    Michel MDL Expert

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    Yes it does, but it won't say ''are you sure you want to delete the file yes/no''. You just press the delete button and the file is in the bin.
     
  13. SOCRATE_MMXII

    SOCRATE_MMXII MDL Expert

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    Win8 SUCKS! :D
     
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  14. SuperBubble

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    Windows 8 doesn't suck, it's just... /different/

    I've waited until the Release Preview (read: Release Candidate) to post my thoughts, since it's blantantly unfair to attack completely unfinished software - the line-up of people who bashed the Development Preview, or even build 7959, made me sick. :rolleyes:

    So, what's good in Windows 8 (RP)? In no particular order:


    New graphical Boot Manager
    I fail to understand why this wasn't present in Vista. Vista even RUNS its Boot Manager in graphics mode (by default), but uses grey-on-black, monospace fonts.

    Huh? That's like only ever using your shiny $10,000 laser printer to print Courier 10 point!

    Now, if I can only make this sexy new gadget work in PXE boots - for some reason, it won't download the BCD during the TFTP transfers, and this (of course) causes it to fall in a heap - I'm stuck with Windows 7 BOOTMGR.EXE on my boot server (for now).


    The Event Log hooks into Device Manager
    This is one of those inspired additions that make you wonder A) Why you yourself didn't think of it, and B) Why it wasn't implemented in Windows 2000.

    Bonus millennium cult: W2K was the first NT to have Device Manager!

    It's a great boon to crazies like me who are always upgrading and/or doing not-quite-legal things to their device drivers... being able to see it right there in front of you instead of having to load a separate utility and dig through 300 unrelated log entries.

    Bonus sidebar m'lord: Really, does anyone actually USE the Event Log filters? I certainly can't be bothered remembering a device driver's/service's/component's name, calling up the filter dialogue, typing it in... BAH!


    At last, ENGLISH ENGLISH!
    Being Australian, it's driven me mad since I was a little girl all the weird spellings and not-quite-right grammar that American foists upon us.

    Bonus thinly-veiled swipe at yanks: Note "American", not "American English". That's an oxymoron.

    And then there's the complete failure of speech recognition, ugh...

    The problem is now solved. Words have "U"s in them; sentences no longer "feel" that they were written by a twelve-year-old, an issue that seems to pervade American writing; speech recognition is 95% accurate out of the box.

    Long live EN-GB.


    The new "Detailed" Move/Copy dialogues
    Pretty, and informative bordering on educational. It reminds me of GetRight's download dialogues. It also gives you an insight into why "Estimated time" is always wrong: look at how the hard drive's transfer rate jumps around!

    I think the file copy experience team (if they exist) at Microsoft can now retire with a round of applause, beers and a "Mission Completed" plaque each. This won't need to be changed until about Windows 18.0.

    Bonus criticism of Microsoft's random product version naming policy: Windows Version 18.0, by virtue of the fact that we'll come full circle by then (two or thee times), will probably be called "Windows '42". I'd laugh myself silly if they stuck with that - Windows 35.0 or 36.0 has a fair chance of being called "Windows '95".


    Memory usage
    This was a genuine surprise, but then Microsoft sank a lot of time and effort into squeezing down the memory footprint a bit for those (memory-constrained) tablet-toys. Now that the RC is here, with (I presume? I honestly haven't checked...) the debug code and symbols stripped out, it's quite snappy, starting up and shutting down (and sleeping and waking) even quicker than Windows 7 (which takes some beating, when you think about it).

    This guy missed the point when he said:

    ... since he's only seeing half the story. Pay attention to the sleep and wake speeds too:

    1) The more unobtrusive power saving modes are, the more likely they are to be used.
    2) The more power savings modes are used, the longer your battery lasts.


    And don't forget that non-corporate computers (including mobile phones and tablets) are used in a "bursty" fashion - it sits on your desk/in your bag/in your pocket most of the time doing nothing, but when you want/need it, you want/need it RIGHT NOW. Who wants to spin the CPU and chew power between uses?

    Bonus brain cancer link: Mobile phones have had this down-pat for a while now. We should be ripping their ideas off more often.

    It's not so much an issue with laptops these days (the skinny little battery that powers my Acer laptop runs it for almost 5 hours), but tablets with their piddly little batteries? Every extra second counts, even 10-20.


    What's bad? Again, in no particular order:


    Explorer ribbon
    Shoot me now. Twice. In the back of the head. Very professionally - I've suffered long enough. I hate HATE HATE ribbons! Always have since I tried an Office 2007 beta. I still run Office 2003 as a result. I'm scarred for life!


    Metro
    One fella has this in his .sig:

    And he's exactly correct. I've tried it on a touchscreen laptop, and it was still rather painful. The reason I own ten "real" computers instead of those pissant tablets, is precisely that I like real computers, with real computer UIs.

    Bonus swipe at tablet users: Though tablets do have their use - keeping idiots away from the aforementioned real computers who have no business being anywhere near one. :p

    That's really my complaint about it (and I'd say, most people's complaint about it): it's a culture shock; radically different to the Windows desktop we've all been staring at for nearly 20 years.

    I would REALLY like to see a registry option to turn the whole kit-and-caboodle off... but Microsoft have made a conscious decision to force everyone to use their new UI. And that's fair enough - if they didn't force people to use new UIs, we'd all still be sitting at our DOS prompts. :p

    So, I might just live with it. And who knows? A Metro app might (well, I'm SURE one will) come along that converts me, and a hell of a lot of other people, into Metro lovers.


    And now, for your viewing pleasure, some selected quotes and retorts. :)

    You'll find "ever" is quite a lot shorter than you think it is.

    Bonus aspersion cast upon your age: I'm sure not long ago you claimed you wouldn't kiss a girl "ever"...

    Yes, next year will be the Year Of The Linux Desktop! (postponed the last 16 years due to paid Micro$soft $hills, lack of RTFM, and people not realising you MUST UNDERSTAND THE COMPUTER DOWN TO THE BUS WIRING). :rofl6:

    I personally like Vista, and still run it on four of my computers (hurrah for all those OEM stickers!).

    Bonus Mojave experiment: Don't you mean Vista 3? Vista 2 was Windows 7 - same core, different UI. :p

    So do I, but they've been doing this for years. I'll bet most of them thought XP was evil when it came along, and now they're all running it.

    Bonus snark: Partly because they hated Vista too, but the main reason is they haven't got strong enough computers to run NT 6.x at speed. Give them ten years, and they'll all be running Windows 7 or 8, and crusading about how evil Windows 11 is. :p

    I HAVE SPOKEN.
     
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  15. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    :D Swell!!! :D
     
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  16. WCCobra

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    When they put the Metro interface on the Xbox I said "Wow, this looks nice, but it's twice as hard to do anything." Now that's in Windows 8, I'm switching to Linux. Vista, Windows 7, and now Windows 8... three fails in a row. I want a fast, light OS that just works. Not some bloated piece of crap that looks nice.
     
  17. Yen

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    Erm..w8 is looking nice? lol
     
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  18. Michel

    Michel MDL Expert

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    Windows 7 didn't fail, i guess you just suck using it. :mad:
     
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