Hey Yen, being administrator or moderator of a forum is not easy as it seems, it is easy to criticize theyr work Shenj? MDL is great, as winunleaked is, and sometimes we users feels that this is right, other or wrong, but remember we are just users, whichever level or skins for programming, modding, testing we have, and we have to respect rules!! Trolls and "Haters" are everywhere, ignore them and they will not bother anymore. About "haters" you just miss a point, that everyone is free to to post or say suggestion and feedbacks until it INSULTS someone, if everyone are lover, the forum will be marvellous, the life be marvellous and the world so..... but the real life is different and the forum follows Seem that you do not read well blogs around the web, there are plenty of video showing this, but classified as haters from people like you, and writing down this info takes pages and pages, here and on Winunleaked are bits of that info that if you spend time to read and join, you'll think better what to write twice before posting!
I made a mistake, I was meant to click 'no' but clicked yes instead. I see (at the time of writing this) 273 other people made the same mistake!
It's not that I feel being criticized, no not by his post. It's the way the post is made and what's the claim to others. I don't like general and absolute statements such as: "This is the worst site you can make a poll about Windows 8 anyway" To determine the worst you must have tried ALL!!! So I ask myself how far is it away from a troll-post at all....... OK Back on topic. It's not just you, w8 sucks to others as well. (A direct answer )
I can't comment on "best" or "worst" sites to do one thing or another on...but I will say this; Users on this site seem far less likely to blindly "drink the kool aide" than on others. Just my humble opinion...
this is the only forum where i post regularly. in fact this is the only forum where i have registered. what else can i say?
I Love Monkey Sex This forum like all good forums is a community of people from all over the world, not a Borg collective. People are going to have different opinions and we should all respect that. It's easy to to agree with someone who thinks like you do. It's much harder to respect someone who has a different view. I have no problem with people who think Windows 8 sucks. I don't agree with them but I won't disrespect them for their opinion. There are a lot of smart people here who have strong opinions. Let's just remember we are here to help and entertain each other. Not to insult members we don't agree with.
Someone who is disagrees with you is Wrong (because, you know, you're right, even on subjective matters like "What UI do you like?"). Someone who is wrong is Bad (because that was drummed into you as a child, and you never grew out of it). Someone who is bad is Evil (one small step for word, one gaint leap for acceptable animosity level!) Someone who is evil is Against You (because you're some sort of beacon of truth, justice and the Pentagon's way). Someone who is against you is open to riducule (because they're wrong!) But that's humans for you.
People can only make decisions based on the information they have. If 99% of people are continually given false info and told they are gods gift to the world and the way schools teach all people to believe they know everything. When people leave school they know everything, or that is what they believe. They infact know virtually nout, and they are making decisions based on that ignorance of the world. So peoples opinions mean nout really as like how computers only are as good as there softwares or operating systems.
That's not human, its the backwardness of society influencing your thinking. It's calling running with the crowd and being stupid.
Yep the mob(i.e majority) have to be kept stup1d so they do not ask questions and become too informed. The mob 100 years ago was very dangerous to the society, but today the rulers have made sure you all hate each other with your massive egos, and your infighting. But 100 years ago humans as mobs where only in a few seperate groups while today the mob is totally fractured into just the individual. Very clever how they rule the mob.
We have a lot of members here who spend their spare time to test new OSes and applications intensively. So most opinions are based on own practical experiences and not made to butcher them without any reason. MDL is a free and open forum that supports ideas, critique and we have members who are able to think globally. The release of w8 will be expected with different POVs. To have different thinking and a lot of different aspects is actually a value one can be thankful for it. We are not biased such as Microsoft and sites that are sponsored by M$. Nobody has to take an particular opinion as to be the ultimate one, posts are made to have a great pool of opinions and then to build a own opinion. Negative attention I had encountered at this thread comes rather from persons who cannot be tolerant, not from members who don't like w8 generally. The poll is 40/60 with a lot of voters and there is some significance that W8 and the idea of W8 have issues.
Here is what I have to say about Windows 8. Metro is not just an UI -- it is a big change for developers. They have to stop using certain APIs and use different stuff. It is more vendor lock-in than ever before. One of the biggest issues I have with Metro is that Metro apps can use only DirectX 11 -- no DX10, no DX9, and what is the worst part, no OpenGL. Yes, you heard that right. Metro apps cannot use OpenGL for rendering or hardware acceleration. Now, I really support the idea of allowing only one version of DirectX, but there is absolutely no good reason not to allow OpenGL. If you for example want to write hardware-accelerated application for image viewing/processing which works on mutliple platforms and operating systems (which is only possible using OpenGL), you can't. Another problem is that Metro apps keep running in the background. This is on top of my "most hated features" list when it comes to Android as well. Moreover, Metro as an UI can have its place on tablets, but on desktop and notebook? Seriously? If all that you are doing with computer is to surf, email, and watch porn then maybe it is just right for you. Some of us do other stuff like use AutoCAD, Photoshop, Visual Studio, Catia, Pro Engineer, Maya, 3DS Max, hell even Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Project, cannot benefit from Metro at all. Finally, any change in workflow is a productivity killer. If you are forced to change the way you work, you are more likely to find an alternative that won't force you to change your habits in the future and stick with it. Year of Linux Desktop seems to have come earlier thanks to Microsoft.
I don't think you understand how Metro app works in the background. Metro apps get SUSPENDED if they are not in the foreground unless it binds to certain background tasks (such as audio). While suspended, the app will continue to use RAM but does not use any CPU time. If the memory is needed for other purposes, then Windows will automatically free it. Microsoft isn't asking you to use Metro for CAD and Photoshop. They are asking you to use Metro or Desktop for the purposes that you want.
People simply don't understand why Windows 8 comes with "Metro" AND Desktop, Metro will never be able to give you productivity applications, you NEED this old Desktop way of working for some professional works as you need to be able to run multiple (not some snap view) Programs on different monitors and not just 2 either. Metro uses a different API aswell where you simply CAN'T DO what you can do on win32. Metro is mostly for consuming, but it doesnt mean there arent some ways to make a professional program for certain stuff on Metro. It's just mad to cry it has Metro only because they took away a Startmenu which distracts, just like the Startscreen does, there is really not much of a point to need to see your current work to use a startmenu @4access, you can close a Metro application on Windows 8... Drag the Frame from the top completly to the bottom and its gone. Windows 8 replaces Startmenu with a Startscreen. Why does this irritate you so much to avoid the whole OS, if you plan on using just desktop apps, why care about Metro, it's just the Startscreen you are going to use (you don't even have to..), it won't change the way you work AT ALL, you are not working if this does change how you WORK, Startmenu & Workflow? Doing it wrong.
Its obviously designed for touch screen crap... Not professionally usable at all! Dont mind it really... I'll probably keep using win7 and they are nicely giving more and more reasons for ppl to switch to linux. One day, linux will get so popular that hopefully all the software i have to use will actually work on it!
I just wanted to let you know if you didn't already, that another way of closing Metro apps is Alt-F4. Also, thanks to your comment (actually the beginning part I didn't quote) it now makes (more) sense to me MS removing the old Start Menu. They don't of course believe Desktop apps will disappear entirely or immediately, but it makes sense for them to want people to get used to launching both Desktop and Metro apps from the same Start Screen. Sure someone could argue well they could have both, and they could even implement an option for the old Start Menu to list both Desktop and Metro apps as well, but that would be redundant and cross-purpose. It won't surprise me if Windows 8 isn't very popular. I doubt if MS actually cares that much because this is a long-term plan. AFAIK I will keep using it and just use workarounds for the things I don't like and/or I just don't plan on using anytime soon. But it also won't surprise me if over time the average user does get used to Metro, and it gets more popular by Windows 9.
Society is a reflection of the people in it. If people weren't exactly the same 10,000 years ago (when 'society' consisted of pretty much just your immediate family), you may have a point. That's what I was trying to allude to with (what I thought was) obviously satirical explanations after each line, that made no references to society, but to upbringing, and intrinsic 'qualities' of people in general.