Is it just me or does Windows 8 SUCK?

It's not Windows 8 that sucks, it's METRO that sucks, and the gay ribbon in explorer.

 

In my opinion, you are 100% completely wrong.

 

Honestly i dont care how explorer looks like because Im doing all file operations in Total Commander. Much faster, easier and more functional. Ribbon explorer or classic explorer both are crap.

And metro sucks on desktop. With classic start menu you are much faster when launching an app and also you dont need to cover your whole desktop with oversized boxes.

 

Hahah +1

 

Businesses will avoid it - that much is true. However, Metro won't be why (except as an excuse).

As even Microsoft (first at BUILD, and since) and anyone that has seen most of either the leaks, or has delved into the WDP itself, and builds since, has pointed out, Metro is an option. Making the assumption that Metro would be the default from what we saw in 8102 would be just as wrong as making the opposite assumption would have been wrong from 7989.

Businesses lag at adopting newer versions of Windows (and enterprises lag most of all) because their software tends to be customized for their unique purposes - and the costs of rewriting a custom application for an enterprise can halt even a planned upgrade in its tracks. (During 2000-2001, I was working for a large - national in fact - cable-TV company that started with C - that was transitioning from Windows NT4 Workstation to Windows 2000 Professional for all the desktops companywide. The problem was one particular line-of-business application - in fact, one particular DLL in said application - that the developer wanted to charge a LOT more for to apply to all the re-imaged desktops. It did, in fact, hold up the transition for six months.)

Segue to today. Businesses (and especially enterprises) face greater pressure on the IT budget than ever. Even though Metro can certainly (and rather easily) be locked out of enterprise desktops assuming any sort of upgrade to Windows 8 were to take place, the BOHICA factor with line-of-business applications would still remain. The BOHICA factor - not Metro - will be the real reason why businesses (and especially enterprises) will lag adopting, if not outright avoid, Windows 8, and stick with Windows 7 instead. At most, Metro will be an excuse (though not really valid, as Metro could certainly be locked out).

 

I wouldn't call it a mistake, as I actually (after an original orgy of site-pinning) don't use the Superbar in Windows 7 at all. However, they *should* make the choice a real choice - with neither the traditional UI - or Metro - the default.

I actually agree that there should be a UI chooser; in fact, I've never said otherwise - anywhere.

Just as not all keyboard-and-mouse users have a use for Metro, not all touch-capable PC users would necessarily want Metro - look at the selfsame SAMSUNG Series 7; it's not exactly sitting in warehouses collecting dust, despite the lack of Windows 8, is it?

 

Yen, I get where you're coming from; however, I respectfully disagree, and will state why.

Metro can be locked out at the enterprise level via Group Policies Editor - the same tool used to lock down existing versions of Windows today. (For various reasons - including ones I stated above - that indeed makes sense for enterprises.)

A separate OS is the same path that Microsoft tried with XP TabletPC Edition - which was, to put it bluntly, an utter flop. (In addition to the underpowered hardware, XP TPE flopped because of what it didn't have - the Windows XP Professional UI, even as an option. Why should Microsoft make the same mistake again?)

Lastly, you also flat-out dismiss x86-based tablets and slates - such as the SAMSUNG Series 7 and clones thereof - why?

 

@ PGHammer
To be fair the XP Tablet edition was ugly, didn't work well and the hardware was nothing like whats expected for Windows 8. So IMO you can't compare it.

I'm not familiar with the Samsung series 7, but if it's not got a touchscreen then I don't get your point? I still think that once Windows 8 is released to the public then after a few months a lot of people will disable Metro on non-touchscreen devices simply because it's not required for them. This is why I say there needs to be a UI chooser during the installation stage, as personally I'd find it very annoying having to go into properties for various parts of the OS just to get it working how I like it, and as the poll here shows, I'm certainly not alone.

Will I link a hotmail/live account to my profile - No
Will I buy anything from the Windows market - No
Do I care about weather information - No
Do I use twitter or facebook - No (and if I did I would still use the websites)
Do I like kiosk mode on any applications - No
At any point do I want to feel like I'm being taken out of an experience - No

So Metro, for me, is about as useful as a wet paper bag to hold my shopping.

 

i think win 8 sucks too. but then i dont have a touch screen

 

I don't have a problem with folks that don't like Metro as a UI choice.

My point about XP Tablet PC Edition was not only was the only UI choice ugly, and saddled with underpowered (compared even to shipping XP laptops) hardware, but that unlike XP Media Center Edition, the Luna (or even Windows Classic) UI was not even an option.

The Series 7 *is* a touchscreen device (it's the same tablet that MS gave out at BUILD) - however, it ships with Windows 7 today. (It was why there may well be tablet and slate users that, for whatever reason, prefer the traditional UI, despite having hardware that supports touch.)

Hate Metro? Fine - I don't have a problem with those that hate Metro per se at all.

However, just because you hate Metro, why deny the option to those of us that actually like it, and *want* it - touch devices or not?

 

I'm not saying that Metro shouldn't be an option for you, but that it's important for MS to add the option during the installation stage because I, like others, don't want to have to disable a bunch of settings each and every time I format.

The tablet edition of Windows XP still makes little to no sense. It didn't catch on because the hardware was crap and it wasn't until the ipad that people paid attention to tablets. In fact the tablet edition of XP was in many ways designed to be used with a pen and not your fingers so a lot of software didn't work well with it. However, Metro will have it's own applications for it so I do believe that a separate OS could have been made specifically for tablets.

 

they should of just called it sp2

 

Fail warning for "OEM" users - The Windows 8 probably will block the other OS install!!! [old]

I'll go to 8 if Microsoft has been released the Windows XP Service Pack 4

 

Isn't Win 7 SP2 supposed to come out in June/July ?

 

i just hope sp2 has the new faster file transfer thingy

 

I doubt if anything comes of Microsoft

Windows 7 is old for them now [or few months after W8 Final Release]