Linux Parental Controls???

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  1. ramo5150

    ramo5150 MDL Novice

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    Hi All,
    Does n e 1 know of a good Parental control app for linux???

    I've used k9 and was wondering if there was something similar to it for linux....

    Thanks in advance....
     
  2. smartboyhw

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    Weird...

    If you want parental controls on Linux, buy a Windows!!!!!!
     
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  3. ramo5150

    ramo5150 MDL Novice

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    WINDOWS.... That is the worst advise if I ever heard.... I'm totally off windows now, having started on windows years ago and have no aspirations of going back. I'm all Mac now but I'm also somewhat knowledgeable with Linux and I'm really liking all the forward progess being instituted with the look and feel of it. With that said, I'd like to start getting my kids using it but I also want to be able to monitor/protect them from all bad things out there on the web....

    BIG NO FOR WINDOWS... THANKS BUT NO THANX ANYWAYS...
     
  4. smartboyhw

    smartboyhw MDL Language Packs Specialist

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    Get out of this forum if you only like Linux!!!!!!! This forum's big circle is Windows!!!!!1
     
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  5. ramo5150

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    :doh:
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    If you didn't notice the sub-Forum u'r responding in, I've included a snapshot....
     
  6. ramo5150

    ramo5150 MDL Novice

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    Thanks Coffeeman,
    I have used GnomeNanny some time ago but didn't really work... Times would pass and no lock out and web filtering was not that good. I have done those searches and have seen some of the varies suggestions. I was just trying to see if anyone had tried something else out there....

    Any other Ideas would be appreciated....
     
  7. Coffeeman

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    Parental controls in Linux are somehow scarce:). Don't see little kids running around in Ubuntu or Fedora, etc. If their parents/tutors are using Linux and have a clean desktop, those rug rats probably will have a hard day finding a browser:). Well, if you find a good one that makes quite a difference or does the job, let me know, because I could use something like that on people who think the internet is all theirs:)
     
  8. SOCRATE_MMXII

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    You can always trust HOSTS file. ;)
     
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  9. Yen

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    I suggest to moderate your tone. It's not your job to decide who is welcome here, it's ours.

    Thanks. ;)
    Regards Yen, MDL admin.
     
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  10. ramo5150

    ramo5150 MDL Novice

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    Thanx Yen....
     
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    #12 ramo5150, Apr 19, 2012
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    Coffeeman,
    FYI: Linux is becoming more user friendly and a lot more prevalent that you might think. Have u used Mint, Very user friendly and not so complicated. One other thing, I work in Tech Dept for a School District(Kinder - 8) that is all Mac:macwheel: but started instituting Linux terminals(Ubuntu) for students machines with no problems or hiccups. Kids don't seem to care what OS is being run and they seem to pick things up a lot faster than you think and faster than adults(Technology). As far as the Parental Controls, that is for my personal use, We have internal filters and policies to handle Problems at my work place....

    Thanks Again....:cheers:
     
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  13. Yen

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    Parental Controls are IMHO not suitable to 'educate' own kids even less suitable to 'protect' them.

    One has to make clear rules how to use the internet for their kids. Limited time per day, first together with the parents.
    To talk to the kids, to inform about possible danger, to gain trust.
    To communicate is the best way to educate.
    Most router can gain web access for limited times a day only.

    The curiosity of kids will be greater when something is restricted or forbidden!
    Why want kids visit such sites at all???

    And we are talking about kids, not babies. They can understand the matter, finally everything will be a matter of trust.
    At last when they go to their friend's home your own Parental Controls at the home PCs are useless....
    Education cannot be achieved by installing filters. The idea of safe internet must be understood, therefore the parents have to do their job.,..to talk to their kids, to explore the internet the first times together then later to have a look from time to time to show interest for their kids are doing, to gain trust.....but it never should be like to observe, to spy on them...or to lock sites.

    My 2 cents.
     
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  14. ramo5150

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    #15 ramo5150, Apr 20, 2012
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    I didn't think this was going this deep but I'll address it since you brought it up. This isn't that big a deal, my kids are only 2 and 4 and All I want them to know that I cared enough to take the time to guide what they are viewing and have access to; So when They are old enough to understand right from wrong, They will be able to notice and decide weather to go down a road that might help them or harm them. I'm a big Believer in guidance and consequence, I think that's why this country has gone in the direction that it is in. Absolutely no guidance and very little consequence.... This BS about having to Coddle and protect our Kids has led this country to be one of the most hatted and despised country in the world. We are raising Bullies, Self-Absorebed, non-respecting, Selfish(From the Dictinoary: egocentric,egotistic, egotistical, egomaniacal, self-centered, self-obsessed, self-seeking, self-serving, wrapped up in oneself; inconsiderate, thoughtless,unthinking, uncaring, uncharitable; mean,miserly, grasping, greedy, mercenary,acquisitive, opportunistic; informal: looking after number one.) and so on....
    We live in a time where MTV is Kids CNN and Teeny Boppers seem to pretend to know what is best for their followers....

    I Also believe and live by the Idea that if You can't control/guide your Kids at 2, DON'T try to control/guide them at 16...

    Enough with that but i'll address your statements:

    GPS Implants: To late for that, Unless u use a cell phone that is pre-1995(1990 was when the first GPS went into a few models of cell phones) and live under a deep rock where satellites can't reach, then any person with access to that type of system can find you. I'm sure there is much more things being outfitted with GPS that we don't even know about but there again, If you teach and guide your kids well, you won't need to worry about where they are at because the lessons learned will make them smart enough to make the right decisions....

    Brainwashing: That's funny to hear that because guiding your kids has now(in your terms) become brainwashing. I'm not trying to change the world, only my world and the people around me so that society might change in the direction of a time when respect, honor, thoughtfulness meant something..... If brainwashing is what I'm doing with my kids, then so be it be and I'll be dammed if I'm trying to raise well mannered, respectful, productive people in society... I don't know how old you are but we were all guided(brainwashed) in one way or another growing up. It just depends on what side of the fence and guidance you had growing up.

    I work in the Tech world and I see what Kids are looking at, throughout different stages in earlier life(working in a kinder to 8th grade district). Influence seems to change every thing in certain periods of a young life but if they(our kids have the correct up raising) then decisions are more easily taken and deciphered when us parents aren't there to help/protect/advise them....

    I really didn't think this was where this simple question would lead to but Maybe this will HELP more than Harm.

    PS. I don't believe in censorship and voiced my disdain for it but At my home, there are rules(like in Life) that must be followed and If they are done right(like in Life) every one will get along better and wiser....

    :Lighten:

    :cheers:
    From a Very Involved Parent....

    [FYI: I said "I think that's why this country" because this GPS implant is referring to an american issue (Applied said the technology it used for the device builds on U.S. Patent No. 5,***,*** for a "personal tracking and recovery system," which Applied Digital acquired in 1999. on the first Link stated in reply.) Apologies to Non Americans but I think these Ideas/lessons are universal.] I wouldn't mind GPS Implants made mandatory for Registered/Convicted Sex offenders or more for Registered/Convicted Child Molesters if DEATH Penalties are not allowed where crime was done.
     
  15. ramo5150

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    Once again, Thanks Yen...

    Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm going to address some of the few topics you broached on your response....

    "One has to make clear rules how to use the internet for their kids. Limited time per day, first together with the parents."
    "To talk to the kids, to inform about possible danger, to gain trust."
    "To communicate is the best way to educate."
    "Most router can gain web access for limited times a day only." among other things/tools at our disposal...

    "The curiosity of kids will be greater when something is restricted or forbidden!
    Why want kids visit such sites at all???" That is totally true, guide/influence/instruct when they are young and hopefully(if done right) they will not need to or simply not want to go the wrong route.

    "And we are talking about kids, not babies. They can understand the matter, finally everything will be a matter of trust.
    At last when they go to their friend's home your own Parental Controls at the home PCs are useless....
    Education cannot be achieved by installing filters. The idea of safe internet must be understood, therefore the parents have to do their job.,..to talk to their kids, to explore the internet the first times together then later to have a look from time to time to show interest for their kids are doing, to gain trust.....but it never should be like to observe, to spy on them...or to lock sites."

    True but then why is it that we have filters every where else but our homes. Work, Schools, etc, etc..... because studies have shown that they help more that harm just like keep your kids away from a hot stove. We as parents have to show action/consequence. Their interest to explore will always be there but guide them and all will make things better in the long run. Every time I lock them in the our car I tell them that they have to put on their seat belt(not because it's my rule) but because it's the law and in that small aspect, the law is right. It will possibly save your life if needed or never(hopefully), ever needed.... Life is filled with rules and if you learn to follow them and know that they are there for good more than bad, than life will be a much more happier and suitable path for all. I tell my Kids that they have to abide be most rules because there is going to come a day that if you(i or anyone) don't want to follow them, there is always a bigger authority than us that will make us abide by the Rules that we all have to live by and there is nothing a parent, grandparent or loved one can do to help them....

    Your 2 cents with my 2 cents might make this a better world to live in....
     
  16. ramo5150

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    As so Wisely stated by Forest Gump....

    "That's all I have to say about that."

    Have a Good Day and Fun Weekend all....

    :hug2:

    :cheers:
     
  17. Coffeeman

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    The same for you. :)
    PS: I have used MInt, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE:) I do like Linux.
     
  18. pierrejaquet

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    #19 pierrejaquet, Apr 21, 2012
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    well at least you don't seem pro-censorship so that's good :D

    I'm not sure monitoring them will make them believe they have your trust...

    Why would they trust you if you don't trust them ?

    Are you prepared for the risk that your kids might no longer trust you because you are monitoring them ?

    I think trust is one of the most important things in education. If you do not have the trust of your children then you have failed.

    Are they aware you are monitoring them ?

    I think they have to know and have the option to opt-out of monitoring whenever they want it.

    You are free to try and convince them this is for their own good and if they accept then you have won...but if they refuse and you force them...then you have failed and you will have to choose between monitoring them or keep their trust.
     
  19. smartboyhw

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    I mean the whole My Digital Life Forums!
     
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