Medical Marijuana - Compassion, Decriminalization, Human rights...

OK, teach us, please...

I never thought much of van Gogh - the cheat!

 

Despite the enormous rant you just made, in return I have very little to say since I don't feel pressured to defend myself, nor is this debate a topic you would be able to grasp without the insight first. It's not worth wasting my breathe... Do yourself a favor and educate yourself, maybe smoke a joint or two and examine the effect it has on you... since you're so much in favor of research? Maybe eat one of those tobacco cookies you mentioned a few pages back . Stop making yourself look like a fool.

 

Lost it!

And I expected as much from people who are utterly biased, to try to smuggle in stuff which kids don't believe in, under the guise of "medical purpose" mixed with "Human Rights" and "compassion".

Well, I do not see the real need of people in genuine pain as sufficient cover for escapist nonsense paddlers, trying to muddy the waters, so one can't see just in what kind of preposterous shallows they stand, pretending to go "deep". Very transparent, to the point of being silly! Childishly silly!

 

I find there simply no reasoning with you
The reason ppl are selling to kids is because they are junkies and criminals embrace marijuana then crims and junkies wont have a hold on things any more
I wont say much about your derogatory comments regarding my nickname as i do not want to allow you to make this thread personal and insulting.

And I am sorry to say as Yen said we do not care about the closed book that is your mind

 

...about everyone who is not you and is not using, were started by you and those were personal!

You were not debating anything, you were not talking to anyone - heck you were not even talking at me, you were talking DOWN to anyone who did not agree with you, so now... booo-hooo, crybaby and an offended prince... wow!

If only you didn't start it first and now you're running to the protection of authorities... The same person who argues against the authorities at large...

But if this authority here seems to be on your side - what do you do?

Shameless!!!

 

There is no shame in my position on this

We do not condemn you lifestyle or you right to you own opinion WHY do you condemn our lifestyles and opinions ?

From what I see the shame is on you.

 

I was putting forward arguments and you were not. That is the big difference. You were personally dismissive and on the basis of what? Having no other argument.

Shame is squarely on you, for making it personal! You got back what you started, that's all!

Reminder: medical usage! Not recreational! Those human rights! And I am compassionate!

Whereas you are simply dismissive of anyone who is not a user and like-minded!

But no real debate coming from you! You simply ignore stuff put by "the other"!

 

I have no need for debate on this I have a Live and let Live prospective on life

 

I think you misunderstand me. I was making fun of someone who thought that Polio wasn't a disease but in fact a cure. I'm sorry if I'm not making this clear. But I think the language barrier may be coming into play here, no offence Yen, because I can see, plainly, that RaymondTM was taking the piss in that post, and it might not be immediately visible to a non native speaker. Atleast, that's certainly how it looks to me

 

And me....

Compassion to those in need - sure: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20810603

If not given that which is necessary/needed, sure - their Human Rights are being violated!

But indiscriminate usage, smuggled behing those laudable medical goals is nuts!!! And not in the best interests of anyone's health!!!

 

Only self-deluded fools and weaklings have no need for debate. Humans are not omniscient and we need democracy in more ways than one!

Had you really espoused "live and let live" principles you wouldn't have been so dismissive and talking down to those who think differently than you.

No, this all sounds phoney to me...

 

Although I've used marijuana for decades, I have no problem with other people disapproving of the drug or its use. I have a major problem with any one who advocates criminal sanctions against the use, cultivation or sale of marijuana. Criminal sanctions are backed up by guns. Gorski is entitled to his opinions as long as he doesn't point the gun at me or any of my friends.

Edit: I contend that anyone who sports a Pink Panther avatar is a likely secret head. Come clean gorski.

 

Hehe, I loved the PP music and long time ago took that avatar as... Just a jolly vibe, that's all...

Allowing something, i.e. enshrining anything in law is also backed up by guns or it isn't a law but a moral appeal.

However, I want a different approach to the whole thing: education, more than anything, backed up by a reasoned debate, based on best available data we have.

There are consequences of making that stuff readily available to anyone for whatever reason: and no, I do not want my kid(s) smoking or smoking (or otherwise ingesting) dope etc. Or drinking etc.

Not before he is ready to think carefully and reason in a coherent manner, not based on "I want" and lots of emotions, as young and irrational people do - we can see ample evidence of that in this very thread...

"I already used it for a long time" is not exactly a great reasoning effort, is it? The fact you used it for a long time - tell that to someone with liver damaged beyond repair by alcohol or - listen very carefully! - his brains half dead thanx to using drugs!!! Do not listen to me, have a look at the evidence and simply observe druggies... See who's being disingenuous in this thread...

 

I think you misunderstand my point of view all I do is defend my right to my opinion at no point have talked down to you in fact look at your posts they are talking down to everyone that dose not have your opinion

I except that you do not agree with me about life your welcome to your opinion but don't thrust down are thoughts show some respect for others even if you don't agree with them

I have no desire to bring you round to my way of thinking individuality makes the world a more interesting place

 

Nonsense, you were dismissive to the bone of anyone who did not use and/or think like you - ample evidence is there!

I reacted. Live with it.

 

And again this is a lie with a 8% increase in cancer risk per joint year compared to 7% per pack year

 

Anyone can make a video claiming anything, Putting a study through peer review not so easy http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2516340/

Facts are facts are facts. And no matter how many times you stick your fingers in your ears and say otherwise it will not change the

Prove this claim, The only reason why you have legal medical use is because of papers like this.

And this has what to do with legalization ?