Medical Marijuana - Compassion, Decriminalization, Human rights...

Go to answers in genesis and enjoy your new found beliefs on the age of the universe and earth. Anyone can make a video and claim anything they want. Proving it is another matter entirely

Really where ?

 

Here is an example of what capitalism will do and the net result will undermine any healing potential that may be present in cannabis .. Designer ganja http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/04/jamen-shively-microsoft-premium-marijuana-weed-washington_n_2234605.html

 

I was listening to a talk show if I come across facts from big pharma I will post in the meantime heres to your health and have a good day Ray.

 

@RaymondTH: How about chewing on Willow bark for a headache? Is that as unlikely?

Mother Natures' Chem Lab is better than -any- lab that humans can build.

And it's free...if you know where to look. (And if Mankind doesn't destroy it first.)

:Miki

 

I have to say I agree completely with you Yen as ‘Big Pharmacy’ Has personally helped me with a illness that could off taken 20 years of my life
In a country ware at that time I had no cover for medical treatment and no money to pay for the 6 months of Expensive treatment
For me ‘Big Pharmacy’ gave me back that 20years

 

No matter where you stand on this issue things are moving.. The latest news from Washington state here in the U.S. Article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/06/legalizing-marijuana-washington-state_n_2249238.html

Let me say that I am for real medicine and opposed to using any medicine to escape from getting to know ones self but I do not judge those who are trying to escape. I cannot abide their justifications is all I am saying .. My personal experience has taught me that such justification only prolongs suffering and obstructs true healing ..To misuse the gifts of our earth mother only bestows lingering sadness on all.

 

I know one thing, as a neighbor of the Netherlands, there has always been a tolerance policy as far that i can remeber. But under pressure from the US (among others), that "freedom" in recent years become increasingly limited and this has led to a ban in most EU countries. And now, the hypocrites are on the way to legalize it in that same US.

I dont get it.

 

no but chewing on Willow bark to cure any illness affecting any organ does

 

No sh!t! How about the use of cannabis sativa/indica all over the world for the last 7000 years in all civilizations: Sumerian, Egyptian, Toltec, Olmec, Inca, Tracian, Greek, Romans a.s.o.

My friend, get a nice cold shower to wake up! You're heavily ASLEEP.

Clinical trails? Give me a break. We all know that big pharma doesn't do any REAL clinical trials, just writes a paper and calls it clinical trial.

Do you even know anything about the placebo effect?

 

Ah the appeal to tradition logical fallacy, I wonder if you will take up bloodletting, human sacrifice or slavery.

We all know they do, Another logical fallacy.

Yes which is why testimonials are worthless in medicine

 

live long and prosper-do what you love and love what you do, I smoke (not cigarettes) drink (not water) have sex not as often as I would like lol
so I guess the question is does grass hurt you, I don't know! im 71 I know it makes me feel good, does the paper you roll it in hurt you more then the weed don't know!
I didn't expect to live this long (it dam sure wasn't my fault) but looking around at friends who have been smoking for a long while I don't see anything wrong with them caused by the weed and that's all the info I need, I remember inhailing carbona cleaning fluid when I was a kid in the Bronx and seeing a friend go into a seizure and went brain dead from it needless to say I didn't do that again so in the end look around be carful and just enjoy life, and don't buy cheap toilet paper

 

Finally someone older than mehere at MDL .. +2 on the TP

 

There is no such thing as western medicine people in china don't go to a shamen if they are in a car crash they go to a hospital. So called traditional medicine has been confined to the dust bin of history aswell as bloodletting human sacrifice prayer therapy etc. There is no such thing as "Western medicine" there is Evidence Based Medicine and its this medicine that eradicated smallpox an illness which killed more people than all the wars in human history. It is this medicine that doubled human life expediency in the 20th century. Its practiced in every developed country on earth.

We rather have medicine that has been proven to work, Not based on tribal superstitions of spirits and daemons that belong in the history books.

Im sorry we live in a boring universe that follows natural laws and doesn't care about our survival, But its the demonstrable truth the shaman didn't eradicate smallpox the doctor did.

 

@RaymondTh Since you have asked so many questions let me ask you one .. Why is it my people lived to be 150 years old just 4 or 5 hundred years ago .. You would suggest we should put a lot of faith in modern medicine because it is based in research .. There are other ways besides this that are equally valid and have a history that is steeped in a tradition that has a lot more credibility than modern medicine does .. Keep in mind that the consequence for telling a lie then was to be ostracized from the tribe which was a death sentence for most. There is no such consequence for misleading or obscuring the truth about a medicine today .. I invite you to learn more about what you speak of before you make such sweeping generalities .. It makes it hard to see who you really are

 

Really, provide evidence. My understanding is the opposite, in the past susceptibility to disease and very little
medicine reduced life spans. Not to mention idiotic practices like drilling holes in peoples heads to release trapped spirits when they got headaches.
Would be interested in seeing where you got this info from, must be the Bible?!

 

Ours is a oral tradition so for you I guess it is unprovable for me I know those who spoke those words sat at those council fires in front of the entire universe with a devotion to the truth that you may not understand yet it is true .. The same advise I gave RAY applies to you also .. I invite you to learn more about what you speak of before you make such sweeping generalities .. It makes it hard to see who you really are

 

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Faith is belief without evidence in this case there is shedloads of evidence

Incorrect, I don't know what planet you are living on but on the one I live on Earth the so called traditional medicine did more harm than good and it wasn't until the germ theory of disease came about that we started eradicating illness which led to the average human life expediency doubling in the 20th century.

Andrew Wakefield would say otherwise.

From "alternative sources" id say its better to accept reality than try to bend it around the facts.

 

Yours is another way and I accept you don't want to acknowledge a way of of life that doesn't fit your principled convictions .. however when taking such hardened postures it blocks revelation, the essential part of discovering who you really are .. I have no interest or need in taking any defensive posture with you .. I wish you the best