1. Bloomard

    Bloomard MDL Novice

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    Thanks! That works.
     
  2. Feartamixg

    Feartamixg MDL Addicted

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    Okay another question. How do you generate a list from ToolKitHelper.exe? The below command isn't working for me:
    C:\MSMG-Toolkit_v13.3\Bin\ToolKitHelper.exe C:\MSMG-Toolkit_v13.3\Mount\Install\1
     
  3. mhussain

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    you need to ad the \ at the end of the path of your mount dir.
    it should look something like this:
    ToolKitHelper.exe c:\t\mount\install\3\ /? >>packages.txt
     
  4. Feartamixg

    Feartamixg MDL Addicted

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    Thanks for that, that worked nicely!

    @MSMG
    I am struggling a little with my Windows 11 RemovePkgsList which I am trying to maintain.

    For Windows 11 2262x, which components do I need for the Microsoft Store to work, so I can install apps? I do not intend signing into the store, but I understand that the store is required to install apps. I use the below list for Windows 10, however ServicesStoreEngagement does not appear to be present in Windows 11 (see attached file):
    • WindowsStoreClient
    • DesktopAppInstaller
    • ServicesStoreEngagement
    • WindowsStoreClient
    In order to keep Xbox and Microsoft Store functionality, these are the components I remove in Windows 10:
    • WindowsStoreClient
    • XboxClient
    • XboxGameCallableUI
    • DesktopAppInstaller
    • ServicesStoreEngagement
    • StorePurchaseApp
    • WindowsStoreClient
    • XboxClient
    • XboxGameOverlay
    • XboxGamingOverlay
    • XboxIdentityProvider
    • XboxSpeechToTextOverlay
    • XboxTCUI
    Again ServicesStoreEngagement is not present in Windows 11 and I am unsure about XboxApp which I assume is called XboxClient in Windows 11?

    Have attached w11.txt which shows the components in my Windows 11 build.
     

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  5. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    Needed for: Windows Store
    DesktopAppInstaller - is interesting to keep for working winget commands.
    WindowsStoreClient - Microsoft Store Client, required to Microsoft Store work
    WindowsStoreApp - Microsoft Store App
    StorePurchaseApp - Microsoft Store Purchase App, not sure if removed you're able to buy games, apps in the Microsoft Store without issues.
    ServicesStoreEngagement
    AdvertisingXaml
    AccountsControl - Required to sign in to apps.
    AADBrokerPlugin
    XboxIdentityProvider Xbox Identity Provider - Require for sign in to Xbox Console Companion (Read as XboxApp or GamingApp)
    XboxClient - required to xbox app work
    XboxApp "w10" equal GamingApp "w11" - Xbox Console Companion
    XboxSpeechToTextOverlay
     
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  6. Feartamixg

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    Thanks for this! I am not able to find ServicesStoreEngagement or AdvertisingXaml in my list of components that I attached to my previous post. Perhaps this is because I am using an Enterprise image?

    Please confirm that this is the list I need for Store and Xbox functionality:
    • AADBrokerPlugin
    • AccountsControl
    • WindowsStoreClient
    • XboxClient
    • DesktopAppInstaller
    • GamingApp
    • StorePurchaseApp
    • WindowsStoreApp
    • XboxIdentityProvider
    • XboxSpeechToTextOverlay

    And please confirm that this the list I need for Store only functionality:
    • AADBrokerPlugin
    • AccountsControl
    • WindowsStoreClient
    • DesktopAppInstaller
    • StorePurchaseApp
    • WindowsStoreApp
    Have left ServicesStoreEngagement and AdvertisingXaml from the list, as I they are not shown in my list of components.
     
  7. DennyAmaro

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    Yes the provided should be enough, but keep in mind that Speech Recognition is also required by some games as reported in NTLite forum. And if you use Snipping Tool is better keep Capture Picker.
     
  8. DennyAmaro

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    Hi @MSMG @inTerActionVRI

    Today I'm here to ask a different question, maybe you guys could help me since this forum a lot users has a little bit more knowledge than me =)

    I'm trying to integrate Compact + LZX in Windows ISO, and aso make this question to ghost spectre on youtube and he or she (not sure if is she or he) reply saying that use command while windows setup compact /c /s /a /i how can I use this while windows setup? I notice that al the ISOs don't have the $OEM$ folder as well. And in the unattend is not using the Compact OS feature.
     
  9. Bira

    Bira MDL Senior Member

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    make a $OEM$\$$\setup\scripts folder inside your DVD\sources\$OEM$\$$\Setup\Scripts\SetupComplete.cmd folder

    to make setupcomplete.cmd, open notepad and do this;

    Code:
    @echo off
    COMPACT.EXE /CompactOS:Always
    cd /d "%WINDIR%\Setup\"
    if exist "Scripts" rd /s /q "Scripts" >nul
    exit
    
    save this as setupcomplete.cmd inside DVD\sources\$OEM$\$$\Setup\Scripts\ folder, i hope this is what you want, and i could have helped, abs
     
  10. kordyl24

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    If I'm making Windows 10 22H2 ISO, should I integrate the newest CU [KB5025221] or there are gonna be problems with removing component with that version and I should use supported version v10.0.1904x.2728 and integrate [KB5023696] update?
     
  11. haris_mdlf69

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    Better to wait for an update but if you are in a hurry use March LCU to avoid any error.
     
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  12. DennyAmaro

    DennyAmaro MDL Junior Member

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    For a short answer: No, you should wait to MSMG to complete support the Windows version.
    For a long answer: No, because when you're integrating updates, the version will not be the same as previous and you can have some issues while editing the ISO. And also, is recommended use only the supported versions since Microsoft are constantly changing a few things in windows, and MSMG Team needs to check if everything is the same or even update the code to support the version.

    Your options are wait to an update or try to use another program that already support the latest versions of windows, or you can risk and edit the ISO after integrating the update.
     
  13. Thank u so much :giverose::bye3:
    Sorry for my very late reply, i just finished my school exams today:dance1:
     
  14. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    I know that when someone says they want functionality, I think of Store fully working. But keeping the Store without the Client Component to keep other Apps working I don't know if it will need the dependencies of the Xbox components.
    As this needs testing, if you test it and find the ideal combination of components to stick with, please bring us the results.

    I would like to have, in the way you mentioned, only WinGet working. But, for you to have an idea, Winget requires updating the Store Client even if the DesktopAppInstaller is installed, otherwise it doesn't work.
    If I'm wrong about that. I believe it could be because it needs the Store to update the DesktopAppInstaller for it to work.

    One thing is for sure... Winget doesn't work on a clean install of an untouched ISO, before you go into the MS Store and update the MS Store itself and DesktopAppInstaller W10 or AppInstaller to W11.

    Of course, there is the option to integrate InboxApps, but I always had problems with the store and gave up using it.


    I believe that perhaps the @MSMG already has more data on this. Let's wait for a positioning from him and other users who have already done this.
     
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  15. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    @MSMG always said that when the build is not supported, just get, for example, a 19041.1 (this means having a UUPdump iso made without integrating updates there). .1 builds are supported by the MSMG Toolkit.
    The 19041.1 after integrating the update will become a 19045.xxxx or 22621.1 to 22624.xxxx, if that is your doubt. They're called Fake Builds on the forums, and I don't think this term is official, but it's the nickname it got. This change will only be made if the specific EP update for the 19045 or the 22624 which is still Preview is present.

    Then...

    Step 1: Mount boot and winre, when it comes to integrating updates. Newbies are having boot issues because of this (I won't delve into this content).

    Step 2: Do the activities you want to perform in the MSMG Toolkit according to the order of the Menus;

    Step 3: Within the "Integrate Menu", with the updates in the correct folder, integrate the updates after "Integrate Features";
    Note 1: the "Integrate Updates" option is out of order because that's how the integration order has to be. That said, "Integrate Custom Features" comes last.
    Note 2: If the image is not committed, outside the script (users with a little more knowledge can do this), the Toolkit does not lose support for component removal. It just won't remove newly released components. This would require an update from the MSMG.

    Step 4: Go remove unwanted components.


    This has always worked for my use. And, I already make something else clear: I don't remove Windows Update, I just disable it. I only do In-Place Update (installation from above). My system is updated once every 1 or 2 months. I make new ISO for this. I consider this a good practice. But many don't, it's up to you to choose.

    In this way, perhaps the errors that you may encounter are related to the cut in functionality generated by the simple removal of components that are prerequisites for others.
     
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  16. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    Is there a way to use this in unattend.xml. I've seen this on some NTDEV Win10Lite or Win11Lite. But I don't know if I saw it on video or inside the install.wim of the ISO.

    Just know one thing, if you have storage space to spare, don't do it. This will increase processing demand and memory consumption.
     
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  18. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    But that's not what I was talking about...

    It is during daily use of the system that processing and memory consumption increase.


    If you want to see the thing take too long, too much to bear waiting...

    echo To "/F"orce Compression of All Files, regardless of their size or type in the SystemDRIVE with the OS (it will take more time)
    Code:
    Start "" /Wait "%SystemROOT%\System32\Compact.exe" /EXE:LZX /F /C "%SystemDRIVE%\*.*" /S /I
    
     
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  19. Bira

    Bira MDL Senior Member

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    #25239 Bira, Apr 14, 2023
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2023
    I see, I gave you two options there, setupcomplete, which will take a long time, and consume a lot, and the response file, now another option, I don't know.
     
  20. Feartamixg

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    I don't use Xbox myself, so therefore it will never be integrated into 99% of my builds, however I sometimes get asked for the Xbox functionality. Therefore it isn't too important if it doesn't work, but it would be nice if it did.

    For me, the functionality of the store in 10 and 11 is far more important, so I can install WhatsApp - this is the only essential app I use, as the standard WhatsApp desktop is now labelled as "Outdated" when I run WhatsApp. I will never sign in to Microsoft's store or accounts to use Windows - personally, I would rather stay with an older and/or enterprise version of Windows without this enforcement.

    By the way, I hope you weren't offended by what I said in the post that you replied to. I didn't mean to question your ability or answers. Perhaps I am being overcautious and my questions might seem that I doubt what you say.