1. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Yes even the WU doesn't follow the order while installing the SSU and CU, it first installs the CU.

     
  2. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    #6022 MSMG, Mar 1, 2018
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    Will check with a ru-RU image this time know why it's giving package not found for WMP.

    Edit: Found out the issue with WMP, When the CU is integrated, removing Microsoft-Windows-MediaPlayer-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.16299.15 will remove all other components but without the CU we need to remove them one by one.

    Don't know whether it is same with the en-US/en-GB.

     
  3. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Resetpc breaking is not your fault, at least not really, MSFT did disable resetbase for this reason. They even disabled it for winpe images.
     
  4. puffyduff

    puffyduff MDL Member

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    Taken from the OP:

    "[G] - Remove all required Windows Components using [Remove->Remove Windows Components] menu."

    Does this mean you can remove windows components like Internet Explorer, Media Player and such? What else?
     
  5. sixor

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    it is super random, it does not happen always just sometimes

    like doing cleanup, or apply changes, or removing hype v, for example, those long operations,

    my pc has sleep disabled, only monitor turn off after 2 minutes

    msmg does not hang, it just freeze until i press a key on the cmd windows and it goes from stuck at any % to full progress, weird

    and no, clean pc, no antivirus, no miners, no background apps or process, but like i said, this is super random and just a few times



    btw

    please someday if you can add

    press x key to delete all crap from menu 442, not one by one, this would be mega usefull
     
  6. BT 1

    BT 1 MDL Junior Member

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    I tried v.7.7 instead and all worked as it should. V.8.2 do not work for me at all, nothing is found to be removed.
    V.8.1 was a Little bit faulty too, it did not remove all that i removed. For instance Flash player was there after the installation even though i removed it during ISO Creation. It seems like the problems, for me at least, started when the Toolkit was developed to be more efficient and faster. Around v.7.7 - 7.8.
     
  7. hiepbg

    hiepbg MDL Junior Member

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    Can we disable Defragment service from Windows Image by using MSMG toolkit? This service make my PC runs slowly.
     
  8. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    How? It should only run when the system is idle.
     
  9. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Do checkout the ToolKit menu for the list.

     
  10. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Ok it's a random issue. then Adding Remove All Windows Advanced Components at once will increase code size as I need to duplicate them again and also each time modifying any component I need to modify at each stage.

    I will release one more update and soon will be taking some break to complete my other pending tasks. lets see what's stored in for future, something new for better ToolKit user experience.

     
  11. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Again you are not giving the details like Source OS Image and Version, Host OS and the exact errors you are getting.

    If the Source OS Image is W10 RS3 then you can see from other people's result it's working for them

    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/msmg-toolkit.50572/page-302#post-1414636

    If it's W7-W10 RS2 then let me know will test again and report back.

     
  12. #6033 Deleted member 716483, Mar 2, 2018
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    Hi,

    Haven't read this thread for a while and now I'm a bit confused. So this is what I understand so far:

    - There's a new component removing engine called "ToolkitHelper"
    - It removes advanced components.
    - At the moment it still can't remove everything that can be removed using the old DISM method, but only some features. Most notably: Windows Defender, People Experience Host and Windows Smart Screen.
    - The Toolkit Helper has to be updated each time there's a new cumulative update

    Now here are the things that I don't understand:
    - The reason why the ToolkitHelper method was made in the 1st place was because of component store corruption when removing advanced components. Does removing *any* advanced component (e.g Cortana or Internet Explorer) causes this, or only the 3 infamous components (Defender, People Experience Host, Smart Screen)?
    - Does the corruption happen only on RS3? So if I don't touch RS3 and only use LTSB, do I need to care about the ToolkitHelper at all?

    Thank you.
     
  13. MSMG

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    ToolkitHelper.exe is a command-line helper program designed for ToolKit to remove Windows components using manual method so that these things can be achieved:

    - Component Protection (Protect Windows Functionality when multiple components share/depened on same files).
    - Component Splitting (Split a Component into many sub Components).
    - Component Store Corruption Fix.
    - SFC Corruption Fix.

    To start with, I have added this method only for Windows 10 RS3 and only three components have been added to use this method within the ToolKit :

    Code:
      WindowsDefender           -  Windows Defender App
      PeopleExperienceHost      -  People Experience Host
      SmartScreen               -  Windows SmartScreen App
    
    Of late, the ToolkitHelper.exe has been added more components for removal for testing purpose But are not included in the ToolKit's Remove Components Menu:

    Code:
    
      BioEnrollment             -  Microsoft BioEnrollment App
      ContentDeliveryManager    -  Windows Content Delivery Manager
      Cortana                   -  Microsoft Cortana App
      FileExplorer              -  Windows File Explorer App
      HolographicFirstRun       -  Holorgraphic First Run App
      LockApp                   -  Windows Lockscreen App
      MicrosoftEdge             -  Microsoft Edge Browser App
      OneDrive                  -  Microsoft OneDrive Client
      ParentalControls          -  Windows Parental Controls App
      PeopleExperienceHost      -  People Experience Host
      PPIProjection             -  Microsoft Connect App
      RetailDemoContent         -  Retail Demo Content
      SecureAssementBrowser     -  Windows Take Test App
      SettingSync               -  Windows Setting Sync
      SkypeORTC                 -  Microsof Skype ORTC
      SmartScreen               -  Windows SmartScreen App
      StoreApp                  -  Microsoft Store App
      WindowsDefender           -  Windows Defender App
      WindowsMixedReality       -  Windows Mixed Reality
      XboxApp                   -  Microsoft Xbox App
    
    
    One issue with this method is that It needs to be updated for every update, until a method is worked out to remove the updated components too along with the base component.


    Using the DISM method too sometimes the Component Store and SFC corruption can occur as the DISM either removes more or less files/registry keys related to a component and this can happen for any Windows OS.

     
  14. InstantAli3n

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    So do I have to do anything special to maintain a live system without causing corruption after a windows update? Or if everything goes well can I just update through windows update as normal?
     
  15. endbase

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    Yeah you can update without any problems but one exception every half year they bring out something like a major Update and bump the version up then it's better to do the proces again IMO ;)
     
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    Does remove all apps except store cause the store to not work properly in new version 8.2? Is it still dependent on Xbox?
     
  17. MonsieurPsychO

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    #6038 MonsieurPsychO, Mar 2, 2018
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    Hi, I've been trying to remove features on "en_windows_10_enterprise_2016_ltsb_n_x86_dvd_9058202" and I keep getting "access denied". I've search the forum for answer and I couldn't find any.

    Host is windows 10 LTSB 2015.
    Toolkit version 8 & 8.2 have been used.

    I've also tried to remove features in a clean virtual machine without success.

    I hope I gave enough information to solve the problem.

    EDIT: PROBLEM SOLVED

    When the toolkit ask if you want to mount "recovery partition" and "windows boot image" select "NO" for both.

    EDIT 2: PROBLEM SOLVED for real.

    When you start the program use the Start.cmd and NOT Toolkit.cmd.
     
  18. MSMG

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    If you use the DISM method then yes Xbox Live is required for Store and App Repair feature.

    But you can try one more method:

    1) Remove All Apps except Xbox and Store using ToolKit
    2) Remove Xbox using ToolKitHelper.exe

    This way it should work.

     
  19. Supern00b

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    I'm using LTSB 1607 and mount both recovery and boot image, no problem at all.

    The only problem I have (and that has little to do with MSMG toolkit) is updating a CU AFTER the image has been deployed.
    Not sure how MS distributes the CU or assigns bandwidth, but here in South America it takes more than an hour and sometimes about two hours to download the CU.
    That's really an issue because it's supposed to download only a delta update, but it takes forever.
    Once downloaded, it installs in minutes.

    That's why I prefer to build my images monthly to avoid these tedious "after-install" patches.

    Cheers.