1. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    No it's not so important, only some older software still needs it to be installed. You can install it whenever you want/desire.
     
  2. xpirad

    xpirad MDL Novice

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    Is it possible that i first remove cortana and integrate search app from ltsb 2016?
     
  3. jonaaa

    jonaaa MDL Member

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    Just disable cortana and remove the windows search component and you'll have a ltsb-like search app...
     
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  4. moistbuns

    moistbuns MDL Novice

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    Would it be possible to get a menu or, probably easier, a payload listing for the bits and bobs under add or remove Windows Features?

    I might be missing something but couldn't see these packages. Most of them go unused, had trouble finding all the strings to remove them all - but go close with zero issues. The main issue with /remove under 10 is that it won't remove payloads due to MS's desire to have an uncompromised reset function.
     
  5. Supern00b

    Supern00b MDL Addicted

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    @BearPaws:
    It's looking for the wrong filename.
    Dart_w10.tpk is the file, but the toolkit looks for Dart_w10_.tpk
    The cabfile has the same issue, it looks for a file with ".." instead of a single ".".
    Besides that, the version is not correct (10.0.17.133 needed, but 10.0.17.134.1 present).
    Try renaming or put the correct files and it should work, probably a glitch in the toolkit.

    Also note that the latest insider builds are not supported by the toolkit.

    Cheers.
     
  6. YOUNEEDTOLOGINTOVIEWTHIS

    YOUNEEDTOLOGINTOVIEWTHIS MDL Junior Member

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    Is there any "safe" way to use MSMG toolkit and NTlite (free) on the SAME iso? I'm asking because the free version of NTlite has some features MSMG lacks (and vice versa).

    I remember reading (IDR where) a post saying they use different backends and could interfere with each other's changes. But that problem should be avoided if they modify separate parts of the iso, right?

    For example, can I first use Ntlite to remove whatever's not available in MSMG, and then put the resulting iso through MSMG to remove the remaining components?

    Thanks! :)
     
  7. lewcass

    lewcass MDL Senior Member

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    Why dont you try it and see? Using 2 different tools may give you problems.
     
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  8. Krakatoa

    Krakatoa MDL Addicted

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    What do you want to remove in ntlite and what do you want to remove in MSMG?
     
  9. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Cortana and StartMenu Search are integrated, removing Cortana will also remove the search in StartMenu and Settings.

    The best you can do is to disable Cortana.

     
  10. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    If I'm correct you are referring to package list for removing the components present in the Windows Features.

    You can use the install_wim_tweak.exe tool to get the package list for the Windows Features.

     
  11. BearPaws

    BearPaws MDL Novice

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    Thank you for the reply, I will do the rename and try that... I am currently using Windows 10 Build 1803 as my base image. I was just wondering is the language pack version for RS4 is 10.0.17.134.1 or 10.0.17.133? as you said that 10.0.17.133 is not the correct version for RS4. Thanks again
     
  12. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    You can use it, first use NTLite and then ToolKit, the reason I don't provide support for servicing source images already serviced by other tools is that:

    - The Toolkit right now uses two methods for component removal the DISM and manual (ToolKitHelper.exe).

    - The NTLite uses it's own method of component removal which I believe is the manual method because using DISM method you can not choose what to remove and what to not in a package.

    Those who are familiar with these both tools can only know how to use it in a right way without corrupting the source image.

    The ToolKit's manual method (ToolKitHelper.exe) also do provide some extra component removal which is not present in the ToolKit Menu and this has been added for testing purpose and will be later added to ToolKit Menu and there by replacing the DISM method completely.

    The next update to ToolKit will support removing extras components for RS4 through (ToolKitHelper.exe).


     
  13. BearPaws

    BearPaws MDL Novice

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    Thanks for the reply, I am using 17133.1.180323-1312.RS4_RELEASE_CLIENTCONSUMER_OEMRET_X64FRE_EN-US.iso as my base image. I now see where is the problem. Thank you MSMG! :)
     
  14. windows builder

    windows builder MDL Guru

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    what is "extras components"?
     
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  15. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    The extra component removal which are available for RS3 now will also be added for RS4 for removal using ToolKitHelper.exe

    Code:
    
    AssignedAccessLockApp
    BioEnrollment
    CEIP_SQM
    ContentDeliveryManager
    Cortana
    Edge
    FileExplorer
    HolographicFirstRun
    KernelDebugging
    LockApp
    OneDrive
    ParentalControls
    PeopleExperienceHost
    PPIProjection
    RetailDemoContent
    SecureAssesmentBrowser
    SettingSync
    SkypeORTC
    SmartScreen
    StoreApp
    UnifiedTelemteryClient
    WindowsDefender
    WindowsErrorReporting
    WindowsMixedReality
    XboxApp
    XboxGameCallableUI
    XboxIdentityProvider
    
    



     
  16. YOUNEEDTOLOGINTOVIEWTHIS

    YOUNEEDTOLOGINTOVIEWTHIS MDL Junior Member

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    Glad to hear it! I'll try using NTLite first.

    Any ETA on the next release with extra RS4 support? :D
     
  17. mOBSCENE

    mOBSCENE MDL Junior Member

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  18. BearPaws

    BearPaws MDL Novice

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