1. Kri Sinki

    Kri Sinki MDL Novice

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    Quite honestly.. this is one of the worst time sucking tools ever created..

    important features do not work correctly.. when you convert an esd to an image... you are unable to mount the source because the entire contents of the dvd folder changes during the conversion process.. and the files sought such as boot and install are no longer found..

    then this requires a windows 10 host to even function.. and after you get done modifying the image and run cleanup and create the new image.. you will be surprised to find that win 10 installs as if nothing had been modified..

    this tool is horrible.. its nothing more than a textual menu sequence of what you can do yourself with dism.. if it worked right i might give it some credit but creating tools that dont work is just time wasting for not only the user but also the developer...

    my advice: shut the project down
     
  2. jonaaa

    jonaaa MDL Member

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    My advice for you: "don't like it, don't use it."
     
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  3. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Always lovely how the noob blames the tool for his own incompetence :D:D:D
     
  4. Dimmir

    Dimmir MDL Novice

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    when trying to mount an image of WES7 of any length
    returns
    Unexpected appearance: EDITIONS
     
  5. Kri Sinki

    Kri Sinki MDL Novice

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    uh huh..
    and where are the options to disable telemtry and windows defender?
    seemingly missing in 8.2...
    sorry but this is trash and so is ntlite. learn dism or get the hell out of dodge.. kri sinki out
     
  6. Supern00b

    Supern00b MDL Addicted

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    Yeah bro...That's why we are all using it, because it doesn't work and it's horrible.
    That's also why this thread has 364 pages, if it really didn't work this would have been long abandoned.

    I'm a n00b myself but I enjoy the challenge.

    Cheers.
     
  7. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    The tool really was only a tool that ran simple dism/oscdimg commands when MSMG started it, these days it can do so much more, the problem is you don't seem to be able to use it correctly.

    ps, we are at version 8.6 iirc ;)
    and disabling/removing defender/telemetry was introduced in 8.4:
    Code:
    v8.4
    + Updated ToolKit's Bin Folder with Windows 10 Redstone 4 WADK (v10.0.17134.1) Tools.
    + Updated ToolKit's Bin Folder with 7-zip Command-line Latest Version.
    + Updated ToolKit's Bin Folder with Resource Hacker Latest Version.
    + Updated ToolKit to Support Windows 10 Redstone 4 (v10.0.17134.1) Source OS.
    + Fixed a Bug in the Feature "Extract Source from DVD ISO Image”, Where the ToolKit Wrongly Reported Extraction Failed When the ISO Image contained a Install.esd Image.
    + Added Windows 10 Redstone 4 (v10.0.17134.1) Language Pack (Win_LP + FOD + WinPE_LP) for MSMG ToolKit.
    + Added Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Pack for MSMG ToolKit for Windows 10 Redstone 4 (v10.0.17134.1) Source OS.
    + Added Microsoft Windows Accessibility Braille Pack for MSMG ToolKit for Windows 10 Redstone 4 (v10.0.17134.1) Source OS.
    + Added Microsoft Windows Media Feature Pack for MSMG ToolKit for Windows 10 Redstone 4 (v10.0.17134.1) Source OS.
    + Added Microsoft Remote Server Administration Toolkit (RSAT) (Windows 10 RS4) Pack for MSMG ToolKit.
    + Added Open Secure Shell (SSH) Pack for MSMG ToolKit for Windows 10 Redstone 4 (v10.0.17134.1) Source OS.
    + Updated Microsoft DaRT Pack (Windows 10 RS4) for MSMG ToolKit with Windows 10.0.17134.1 Debug Tools.
    + Updated the Feature "Remove Windows Component" to Remove Microsoft Telemetry, PeopleExperienceHost, Smartscreen, WindowsDefender Components for Windows 10 Redstone 4 Source OS.
    
     
  8. MSMG

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    1) Always use the latest version of Toolkit to service W7-W10 OS Image.

    2) Always read the readme.txt and changelog.txt to know these things

    - How to use the Toolkit.
    - What has been changed or fixed in the current version.
    - What known issues are present in the current version.

    3) When reporting any bug/issues/problem, always do specify these details

    - HOST OS
    - Source OS Image
    - Which part of the ToolKit, you are having issues with.

    4) Do read at least few previous pages of this thread to know any current issues or fixes that are not covered in the readme.txt and changelog.txt.



    Regarding the issue you have specified, I think you are referring to Converting Windows 10 Store ESD Image to WIM Image and I have done my tests regarding the same

    HOST OS : Windows 10 Pro Redstone 4 v1803 x86 en-GB
    Source OS Image : Windows 10 Client Consumer Redstone 4 v1803 x64 en-GB ESD Image

    17134.112.180619-1212.rs4_release_svc_refresh_clientconsumer_ret_x64fre_en-gb_659b894b2317260922075a4cf5bf289aa7cf3b2b.esd

    ToolKit Version : v8.7
    ToolKit Location : C:\ToolKit

    Conversion:

    - Copied the above specified ESD file to <C:\ToolKit\DVD\sources> folder
    - Renamed the ESD file to install.esd
    - Started the Tookit
    - Choose [2] Convert
    - Choose [1] Convert Store ESD Image to WIM Image
    - Choose Pro Edition (Index: 9) for conversion

    Code:
    ===============================================================================
             MSMG ToolKit - Convert Windows Store ESD Image to WIM Image
    ===============================================================================
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Starting Converting Windows Store ESD Image to WIM Image###################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Reading Image Information...
    
    ===============================================================================
    |Index| Arch | Name
    ===============================================================================
    |  1  |  -   | Windows Setup Media
    |  2  | x64  | Microsoft Windows PE (x64)
    |  3  | x64  | Microsoft Windows Setup (x64)
    |  4  | x64  | Windows 10 Home
    |  5  | x64  | Windows 10 Home N
    |  6  | x64  | Windows 10 Home Single Language
    |  7  | x64  | Windows 10 Education
    |  8  | x64  | Windows 10 Education N
    |  9  | x64  | Windows 10 Pro
    |  10 | x64  | Windows 10 Pro N
    ===============================================================================
    
    Enter the ESD Image Index's # [Range : 4-10, * - All] : 9
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Converting Windows Store ESD Image to WIM Image############################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Decrypting Windows Store ESD Image If It's Been Encrypted...
    
    Creating Temporary Container Images...
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Applying Windows Store ESD Image [Install.esd, Index : 1] to <Temp\DVD>...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17709.1001
    
    Applying image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Exporting Windows Store ESD Image [Install.esd, Index : 2] to Boot Image...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17709.1001
    
    Exporting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Exporting Windows Store ESD Image [Install.esd, Index : 3] to Boot Image...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17709.1001
    
    Exporting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Exporting Windows Store ESD Image [Install.esd, Index : 9] to Install Image
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17709.1001
    
    Exporting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Copying EI.CFG Config file to Source <DVD\sources> Folder##################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Copying EI.CFG file to <DVD\sources> folder...
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Finished Converting Windows Store ESD Image to WIM Image###################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    ===============================================================================
    
    Press any key to continue . . .
    
    

    Mounting Converted Image:

    - Choose [1] Source
    - Choose [1] Select Source from <DVD> Folder
    - Choose 1 as Index No
    - Choose Yes for Mounting Boot and Recovery Images

    Code:
    ===============================================================================
                   MSMG ToolKit - Select Source from <DVD> Folder
    ===============================================================================
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Selecting Source Images####################################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Reading Image Information...
    
    ===============================================================================
    | Index | Arch | Name
    ===============================================================================
    |   1   | x64  | Windows 10 Pro
    ===============================================================================
    
    Enter the Image Index # : 1
    
    Do You Want to Mount Windows Setup Boot Image ? ['Y'es/'N'o] : Y
    
    Do You Want to Mount Windows Recovery Image ? ['Y'es/'N'o] : Y
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Source Image Information###################################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
        Image                    :  Install.wim
        Image Index No           :  1
        Image Name               :  Windows 10 Pro
        Image Description        :  Windows 10 Pro
        Image Architecture       :  x64
        Image Version            :  10.0.17134
        Image Service Pack Build :  1
        Image Service Pack Level :  112
        Image Build              :  17134
        Image Edition            :  Professional
        Image Flag               :  Professional
        Image Installation Type  :  Client
        Image Default Language   :  en-GB
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Mounting Source Images#####################################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Mounting [Boot.wim, Index : 1] Image at <\Mount\Boot\1>...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17709.1001
    
    Mounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Mounting [Boot.wim, Index : 2] Image at <\Mount\Boot\2>...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17709.1001
    
    Mounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Mounting [Install.wim, Index : 1] Image at <\Mount\Install>...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17709.1001
    
    Mounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Mounting [WinRE.wim, Index : 1] Image at <\Mount\WinRE>...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17709.1001
    
    Mounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Finished Selecting & Mounting Source Images################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    ===============================================================================
    
    Press any key to continue . . .
    
    

    Removing Microsoft Telemetry & Windows Defender Components:

    - Choose [4] Remove
    - Choose [3] Remove Windows Components
    - Choose [2] Advanced Windows Components
    - Choose [L] Microsoft Telemetry
    - Choose [M] Windows Defender

    Code:
    ===============================================================================
                      MSMG ToolKit - Removing Windows Components
    ===============================================================================
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Starting Removing Windows Components#######################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
        Image                    : Install.wim
        Image Index              : 1
        Image Architecture       : x64
        Image Version            : 10.0.17134.1.112
        Image Edition            : Professional
        Image Default Language   : en-GB
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Removing Windows Components################################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Removing Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP) Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    MSMG ToolKit Commandline Helper
    Version: 1.0.864.0
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17134.112
    
    Removing Package files...
    Modifying Package files...
    Loading Image Registry...
    Modifying Package Registry...
    Unloading Image Registry...
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Removing Windows Kernel Debugging Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    MSMG ToolKit Commandline Helper
    Version: 1.0.864.0
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17134.112
    
    Removing Package files...
    Loading Image Registry...
    Modifying Package Registry...
    Unloading Image Registry...
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Removing Microsoft Unified Telemetry Client (Asimov) Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    MSMG ToolKit Commandline Helper
    Version: 1.0.864.0
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17134.112
    
    Removing Package files...
    Modifying Package files...
    Loading Image Registry...
    Modifying Package Registry...
    Unloading Image Registry...
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Removing Microsoft Windows Error Reporting Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    MSMG ToolKit Commandline Helper
    Version: 1.0.864.0
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17134.112
    
    Removing Package files...
    Modifying Package files...
    Loading Image Registry...
    Modifying Package Registry...
    Unloading Image Registry...
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Finished Removing Windows Components#######################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    ===============================================================================
    
    Press any key to continue . . .
    
    
    Code:
    ===============================================================================
                      MSMG ToolKit - Removing Windows Components
    ===============================================================================
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Starting Removing Windows Components#######################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
        Image                    : Install.wim
        Image Index              : 1
        Image Architecture       : x64
        Image Version            : 10.0.17134.1.112
        Image Edition            : Professional
        Image Default Language   : en-GB
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Removing Windows Components################################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Removing Windows Defender Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    MSMG ToolKit Commandline Helper
    Version: 1.0.864.0
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17134.112
    
    Removing Package files...
    Modifying Package files...
    Loading Image Registry...
    Modifying Package Registry...
    Unloading Image Registry...
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Finished Removing Windows Components#######################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    ===============================================================================
    
    Press any key to continue . . .
    
    

    Yes, this toolkit is a text base front-end for DISM, it uses DISM along with few additonal tools to service a windows installation image for adding, removing, customizing the windows installation image.

    If you feel that this toolkit is a worst or a crap tool and you can do the above things on your own using the dism with even on Windows 7/8.1 HOST OS, then you are free to do so, you are free to use any tool which is suitable for you.


     
  9. MSMG

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    @ All

    Due to various issues, i'm being offline for sometime now and so couldn't reply on time.

    With the release of new CU, few more tests are to be done and then will be finalizng the next update. So far with the current tests it's going smooth, By this saturday the next update will be ready for release.

    The only few issues not yet fixed and still need for time are

    1) Removing Unified Telemetry Client (Asimov), will break the Sticky Notes App and Installing Drivers through Windows Updates.

    2) Integrating updates before or after the component removal which uses the manual method (ToolKitHelper.exe) have it's own advantage and disadvantages

    - Component removal after integrating updates may leave behind some updated component files/folders/registry, since the ToolKitHelper.exe has been coded using the Windows 10 Vanilla Image as a reference.

    - Integrating updates after the Component removal may restore few resources or empty folders related to removed components.

    Either using any way, further updates integration/installation may restore few resources or empty folders related to removed components.
     
  10. MSMG

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    Are you using Windows 7 ThinPC Edition or the regular WES7 Image? Can you post the screenshot of the error?

    It's been a long time I have checked with the Windows 7 ThinPC Edition, will check and fix any issues found.


     
  11. nosirrahx

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    Great to hear, ready to test when its done. I have a high end workstation, NUC8i7HVK and 6 older desktops at a school that are all moving to final 1803 builds. Each need different modifications so I can test quite a bit.
     
  12. BearPaws

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    @Kri Sinki it's funny how you just registered yesterday to start dissing on MSMG work, at least get your facts straight... it seems to me that you are just some one who wants to discourage or some how disturb the MSMG project. There is always some one trying to ruined stuff here by either complaining about the tool, requesting stuff which is not yet possible for the tool to do or some one being a smart ass... acting like they can do better.
     
  13. hoxlund

    hoxlund MDL Member

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    I mean you can always use something more your skill level.... Apple products ;) GTFO
     
  14. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    :):D:rofl:
     
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  15. finderz

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    #7275 finderz, Jul 13, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2018
    If DISM is able to totally remove all the M$ bloatware all of us here wouldn't be using this tool... Win10 is not Win7 there is changes to DISM, its M$ making the changes and this tools is here to help in going around bypassing all the barrier that M$ setup. MSMG did a great job in creating this tools.

    If it is too sophisticated for you to use then perhaps you are not technical enough and better off staying with win7 or move over to macOS, coming here to rant and making nonconstructive remarks doesn't help just show how lazy and unresourceful you are as a person. Every words you said is non factual as the tool works for all of us and show how ignorant you are in person.
     
  16. mOBSCENE

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    Did you also get around to test integrating CU's post-installation, with Telemetry removed? As discussed earlier, I am unable to integrate any CU post-installation.
     
  17. biatche

    biatche MDL Addicted

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    Can't wait... really do need to get my image up to date heh and without issues.
     
  18. tefor

    tefor MDL Senior Member

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    I have never managed to remove Defender with the versions 8.4 , 8.5 and 8.6 even though i have applied all directions.
    Is there a new version on the way ?
     
  19. AeonX

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    Do you say integrate or be offered by Windows Update? From RS3 (I do not remember if in RS2 either) the telemetry must be configured to Basic at least to receive updates via WU.
     
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  20. jonaaa

    jonaaa MDL Member

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    Read the previous posts.
     
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