1. ARCIGA

    ARCIGA MDL Senior Member

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    Please Tell Me:
    When Does the Version Compatible With Windows 10.0.17763 Come Out?
     
  2. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    ^^
    see post #7873 above ;)
     
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  3. MatejEU

    MatejEU MDL Novice

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    #7863 MatejEU, Sep 25, 2018
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    Hi people, a noob here :)

    If we divide system MS apps and components into Crapware and Spyware, what is the best approach to remove Crapware and reduce Spyware while retaining "fully" operational Windows 10?

    Today I made a custom Windows 10 Pro 1803 version (17134.112) using the MSMG ToolKit v8.8
    I removed majority of Crapware, except MS Store, all MS components and some of the advanced ones like Telemetry, Cortana, Defender etc.
    The end result is a pleasantly clean and "light" version of Win10. Unfortunately Search is gone and some of newest updates are impossible to install (I've tried regular ways and fixes without re-integration of updates).

    I've read posts from the last couple of months. But I cannot summarise things well enough to help myself out.
    From what I understand, at the moment, best way to achieve what I want is to remove Crapware, leave Spyware and later on in Windows use some other tools to improve privacy behaviour (disable Telemetry etc.). Cortana remains?

    I'm returning back to Win7 for the moment but I have to admit that Win10 looks and feels much more modern and pleasant for work. Unfortunately, at this point they're both Malware (allowing 3rd party apps to be installed in updates) and Spyware.

    Thank you for your help :D

    Bye, M

    Edit: Ofc thank you MSMG for creating this tool ;)
     
  4. rayleigh_otter

    rayleigh_otter MDL Expert

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    Try windows 8.1, its 10 without the crap. I prefer it over w7. :)
     
  5. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #7865 Enthousiast, Sep 25, 2018
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    @MSMG do you have an estimate time of arrival for the updated rs5 DaRT pack?
     
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  6. MatejEU

    MatejEU MDL Novice

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    Thanks for the suggestion :) I'm just somewhat afraid that it has a similar load as Win10 :( Win7 are dull but we "know" what is going on.
    I use my laptop primarily for development and media. It has a 3rd gen i5, 16GB RAM and a Samsung 850 Pro SSD and it will idle with CPU at 30-50% servicing background crapware/spyware in Win10.
    On my Surface Pro 3 that means fan kicking in, device heats up, battery gets drained quicker :mad:

    A custom debloated version of Win10 is much more better but it might be crippled in ways that I've not yet perceived. Shame, shame on you Microsoft :)
     
  7. MrMagic

    MrMagic MDL Guru

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    Install LTSB or wait for LTSC
     
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  9. rayleigh_otter

    rayleigh_otter MDL Expert

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    Its not that bad and is similar to 7 size wise. I removed store and apps with msmg toolkiit 8.2, just get the open shell fork of classic shell and its a good os. :)

    Need experienced 8.1 users experience here but i think a lot of privacy settings are on by default and they are easy to find. Try it out as long as you can get the drivers for it.
     
  10. Supern00b

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    #7871 Supern00b, Sep 26, 2018
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    Come on man, are you kidding me? Don't you read the last posts? At least try it.

    Cheers.
     
  11. LordVardus

    LordVardus MDL Novice

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    How is it possible to remove in RS5 Mixed Reality Portal?
     
  12. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Sorry, I can't give an ETA as myself don't know when I will be working on it, a lot of other things are there to finish yet.

     
  13. MSMG

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    You can divide the Apps into Regular Apps and System Apps, a majority of Regular Apps when removed doesn't break the OS, some Regular Apps may require the Store/Xbox Apps to function properly.

    Even removing the System Apps doesn't break the OS unless you know which System Apps you may need to retain or remove.

    - The Cortana system App is not just the Personal Assistant but instead it's also the search feature in the StartMenu, Taskbar Search box, Settings Search box. Removing Cortana will also remove the functionality to search. from StartMenu, Settings.

    If you don't want to use Cortana but want to retain the Search ability then you can disable the Cortana by using the Tweaks menu inside the ToolKit.

    - At present removing the sub-component Unified Telemetry Client under Telemetry Component will break the ability the ability to install drivers through Windows updates.

    - I have tested many times with the updates installation through the Windows Updates and it works fine for me here and even I have posted the screenshots of Windows Update successfully installing the updates in my previous posts.

    At present the ToolKit uses both the DISM and the manual method for removing a component and since using the DISM to remove a component, one can't a control over what to remove/retain when removing a component and so starting with next version I will be completely using the manual method for component removal.

    Do wait for the future version of ToolKit to make a lite OS of your choice.


     
  14. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Updated the DaRT pack with W10 RS5 Debug Tools, use the Mega link from the first post.

    Code:
    Name: Dart_W10.7z
    Size: 204688229 bytes (195 MB)
    SHA1: 9F4210CA87B7F19657F8A3246000E7C840EA7654
    

     
  15. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #7876 Enthousiast, Sep 26, 2018
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    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  17. biatche

    biatche MDL Addicted

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    waiting on msmg now :D
     
  18. Supern00b

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    @MSMG: I suggest you wait with the release of the new toolkit until LTSC 2019 is released, to be able to include the needed changes for this sku.
    :p

    Cheers.