I have been observing significant increase in performance since 2016, when I first installed stripped down LTSB on the laptop with inherently slow HDD. Performance improvements(reduced hiccups and improved loading times) mainly come from removing infamous HDD hogs, namely Defender, Smart Screen and telemetry clients. You also get 300-400MB of your RAM back, which is 10% of total RAM on some laptops. And I am finally able to use my personal laptop right after launch, not having to wait 3-5 minutes until all system processes settle down. I wouldn't call it "No noticable increase in performance".
Benchmark nr's, ram usage is not always speed improvement, many time it only causes bottlenecks because when a service has to be started it isn't preloaded....etcetc... I have tested some "improved" iso's and non of them got better benchmark results, the "improvements" only caused instability or even failure. Most of what you post seems to be old/insufficient hardware.
Defender and Smart Screen aren't important services, they won't take time to launch if you deleted them. and I can't think of any situation when their absence can prevent casual user from doing his work You don't need any benchmark to see better reposnivness and load times. And I agree with you that on beefy PC there is absolutely no difference, but Sometimes there is no other choice
There is a serious performance difference stock windows pro vs minimal modded LTSB. Even on a modern gaming system with an SSD and 16GB of ram you will see a marked increase in performance. Having 34 processes running instead of near 200 and <600 threads vs over 2000, there is a significant difference. The sheer amount of processing overhead you remove drops the average interrupt latency from over 200uS to below 60uS (below 20uS if you run with c-states disabled at a set frequency but still have EIST enabled since there is no reason to disable it). Something as simple as opening the start menu shows the difference as the usual delay due to all the crap that loads in on stock is not there. The entire UI and all programs and games open faster, have less delay, and the CONSISTENCY of the system is absolutely, undeniably better when you have that massive amount of garbage removed. If you don't think windows defender can be a problem on a high end PC think again, watch it eat 20-50% CPU (and 100% disk on a hard drive) just from plugging in a flash drive or downloading something. Smartscreen causes similar delay with downloads. We're talking add 7 seconds at the end of my download where I can't interact with what I downloaded as it's scanned. People keep denying this behavior exists but honestly I don't see how you could miss it. This is absolutely rude but it sounds like you're the casual user to me. Not noticing the obvious real world performance differences. As for benchmarks, say cinebench, you get the kind of difference you'd see if you're using a different machine with different specs. When all is said and done maybe I'll take some benchmarks of stock windows vs modded minimal LTSC to really show how big of a difference there is.
I agree with above statements where it concerns legacy hardware. Where I live, it's a third world country. Often people bring me Intel socket 775 or AM2 computers that are more than 10 years old, and people ask me to do a low cost upgrade. Usually I try to get the system up to at least 2GB of ram, to be able to install x86 Windows LTSB/C. The important thing is to be able to make the difference when comparing to Windows 7. If LTSB/C (or a Windows 10 Pro for that matter) can be cleaned and optimized to offer a better user experience, then I'll be able to make people happy. I'm pretty sure that a non-optimized/debloated W10 can be a resource hog on old hardware. So for me, it's worth the hassle. Cheers.
^^ I agree 100%, because who is lazy to search within Windows is easier to say that does not change anything, of course changes only the user need to know what is doing it already comes from Windows first and who said this to me works to this day INSIDE Microsoft in Richmond I'm sorry that maybe some people might not like what I'm saying so to be very clear is just compare with a car: you enter the store and buy car and leave there happy of our life as this car goes !! and this way it will stay ETERNALLY with the factory performance whereas a user WITH technical knowledge will make the same car do not say fly but surely it will run over similar cars of the same brand, power etc only my 2 cents
ooops I forget > for me, programs to determine what is happening in the system (in real time it is games or heavy applications like Photoshop, AutoDesk, Gimp, Blender etc is a very important thing for example I always use HWINFO (excelent) to check the situation of the my Hardware but use programs for benchmarch I think nonsense my opinion is just a waste of time can be sure the rest that appears on the Internet is for the unwary, novices and the like what at least in my normal work nothing more is needed, everything is bulls**t , I even tired of comparing two identical machines with mine and I could observe that my main machine beats all !! I mean I'm a genius nothing I just know what to do inside the Windows system, finishing I just want to say who can beat my humble hardware and I doubt it can be BETTER than what I am using now always remembering: to compare it is obvious that it needs to have the same operating system, hardware etc ... . and I think it's best to stop here if the InTel or AMD fans-boys start squeezing (I still remember for the user to have a correct view he should use at least two monitors to observe better of course)
aieh!! forget another time , for know Windows System is simple ony test dude non using statiastic and some wayws inutilitile applicanyions Test Build now for me it's just LOST time just figure out who is not helping anyone !!!! here in MDL, those who like Windows should not be dumb enough to employ them) is simple the user needs to be intelligent at least, never rely on Masters, GooD Master Window OS Systems that belive Masters not yet apportioned by @ WHCL-WHQL WHPC and another internaults of MF% for now and main: GootSense is simple in the 3rd apps onçy use your I "m rerinfing to NOBODY, here is my house I'm MDL sorry for some erros ... please Mods. DELETE