1. gilbert1a

    gilbert1a MDL Novice

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    Dear MSMG!
    Made an extended version of the manual for working with your program for version 9.1 with the image of Windows 10 RS5

    How to work with Windows 10 RS5
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    01. Unpack English ISO image to MSMG \ DVD \ folder
    Select an image folder in the Source-> Select Source from Source <DVD> Folder menu
    When prompted to connect to the maintenance of Boot / Recovery Images, select “Yes”.
    The toolkit requires that the Windows installation image be in WIM format for maintenance.

    02. Integration of language packs Windows Integrate-> Windows Language Packs
    You must download the Windows language packs for MSMG ToolKit, which contains the necessary files
    (win-lp + lfp + winpe-lp). Copy the Windows language pack files to
    Packs \ LangPacks \ w10 \ <Architecture> \ <LanguageCode, for example: Packs \ LangPacks \ w10 \ x64 \ en-GB.

    03. Integrating Windows drivers using the menu Integrate-> Windows Drivers.
    Copy the files / driver folder into the Drivers \ w10 \ <Architecture> folder

    04. Turn on all the necessary Windows features using the menu Integrate-> Windows Feature
    (except Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5).

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Note. Some packages for MSMG ToolKit are not included in the ToolKit archive due to its size.
    Instead, they are provided separately. You need to download the necessary packages.
    and extract them to the Packs folder, as shown below.
    Dart_W10.7z (Extract the DaRT folder in Packs \ DaRT \ w10).
    Games.7z (Extract the folder in Packs \ Games).
    MediaFeaturePack_W10.7z (Extract the folder in the Packs \ MediaFeaturePack).
    NetFX35_W10_RS5.7z (Extract the NetFX35 folder in Packs \ NetFX35).
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    05. Integrate all necessary updates.
    Integrate Windows Updates using the menu
    Integrate-> Windows Updates-> Windows Updates for regular updates.

    We choose to integrate WHD Update Pack (cumulative updates) using the menu
    Integrate-> Windows Updates-> WHD Update Packs-> Integrate WHD General Updates
    for WHD Update Pack.

    Choose Integrate to Windows Setup Install & Recovery Image

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    If you select Integrate to Windows Setup Boot, Install & Recovery Image
    be sure to use Integrate Windows Setup Media Updates to be able to
    boot from DVD / USB, because changes are made to the Setup Boot
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ToolKit supports updates in .msu / .cab format.
    To integrate updates (Windows Updates) you need to copy them.
    to the Updates \ w10 \ <Architecture> folder (for example, Updates \ w10 \ x64).
    To integrate the service pack (WHD update pack or cumulative update) you need
    copy them to the Packs \ WHD \ w10 \ <Architecture> folder.

    Attention!!! Updates must have original names. Renaming updates will result in
    the impossibility of their integration into the image.

    Copy Cumulative Update Files (Windows Cumulative Update)
    in the Packs \ WHD \ w10 \ <Architecture> \ Cumulative folder (for example, Packs \ WHD \ w10 \ x64 \ Cumulative).

    Copy Dynamic Update Files (Windows Dynamic Update)
    in the Packs \ WHD \ w10 \ <Architecture> \ Dynamic folder (for example, Packs \ WHD \ w10 \ x64 \ Dynamic).

    Copy Windows Update File FlashPlayer
    in the Packs \ WHD \ w10 \ <Architecture> \ FlashPlayer folder (for example, Packs \ WHD \ w10 \ x64 \ FlashPlayer).

    Copy the stack update file (ServicingStack Update)
    in the Packs \ WHD \ w10 \ <Architecture> \ ServicingStack folder (for example, Packs \ WHD \ w10 \ x64 \ ServicingStack).

    Copy the Windows .Net Cumulative Update File
    in the Packs \ WHD \ w10 \ <Architecture> \ NetCumulative folder (for example, Packs \ WHD \ w10 \ x64 \ NetCumulative).

    Copy the Windows SetupMedia Update Files
    in the Packs \ WHD \ w10 \ <Architecture> \ SetupMedia folder (for example, Packs \ WHD \ w10 \ x64 \ SetupMedia).

    Copy the Windows WinPE Update files to the Packs \ WHD \ w10 \ <Architecture> \ WinPE folder
    (for example, Packs \ WHD \ w10 \ x64 \ WinPE).

    06. Integrate Windows Setup Media Updates updates (if any) using the menu
    Integrate-> Windows Updates-> Windows Setup Media Updates.
    -------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------
    07. Cleaning the original unpacked image using the Apply-> Cleanup Source Images menu
    -------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------
    08. Remove all necessary Windows components using the menu Remove-> Remove Windows Components
    Removed all Windows Apps
    Removed all System Apps
    Removed all Advanced Windows Components
    Customize-> Remove default Metro Apps Association XML
    -------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------
    09. Cleaning the original unpacked image using the Apply-> Cleanup Source Images menu
    -------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------

    10. Integrating Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 using the menu
    Integration-> Windows Features-> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5

    11. <Optional> Enable all necessary Windows user functions using the menu
    Integrate-> Windows Custom Features

    12. <Optional> Customize the image using the Customize menu.

    ================================================= ===============================================
    13. Apply and save changes to the original image using the menu
    Apply-> Apply & Save Changes to Source Images

    14. Recreate the original image using the Apply-> Re-Build Source Images menu.

    15. Creating an ISO image using the menu Target-> Make a DVD ISO Image
    ================================================= ===============================================

    16. Install the OS.

    17. Run DISM / Online / Cleanup-Image / StartComponentCleanup / ResetBase once
     
  2. Dusktilldawn

    Dusktilldawn MDL Junior Member

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    Hello
    Can we use ntlite’s download folder instead of whd’s?
    For examples’ for win7; whd downloads so many files those confuses my mind..l can’t be sure which folder do l have to use or
    Don’t know whether msgms toolkit wil chose those files for me automatically
    Thanks to everyone in advance
     
  3. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    #9363 MSMG, Jan 11, 2019
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    Next update will be a small one with only fixes for SFC errors.

     
  4. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    #9364 MSMG, Jan 11, 2019
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    Thanks will put a link to this post in the first post for users benefit.

     
  5. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Need to check with NTLite updates folder structure and also as I have read the NTLite uses some special method to integrate some updates which can't be integrated in a regular way.

    The ToolKit auto-selects the WHD updates based on the menu chosen for Windows 7

    Windows 7 with SP2 aka Convenience Pack
    Windows 7 without SP2 aka Convenience Pack

    I need to update this feature to match the latest WHD repository.

     
  6. gample

    gample MDL Novice

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    Hello, I was able to install the Microsoft Store through MSMG ToolKit on Windows Server 2019, but I can not download the app through the Microsoft Store. In addition, the Microsoft.Services.Store.Engagement file does not appear in the installation window.
    How do I the install Appx file?
     
  7. Feartamixg

    Feartamixg MDL Addicted

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    Can I ask why do you do not convert the WIM file to ESD? This reduces the size significantly for me.
     
  8. gilbert1a

    gilbert1a MDL Novice

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    While install.wim does not reach the critical value of 4 GB, it does not make sense, because the speed of working with a WIM file is much higher than with ESD. In my opinion, the use of ESD is justified only in terms of saving space on bootable media or when install.wim becomes more than 4 GB.
     
  9. Feartamixg

    Feartamixg MDL Addicted

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    Sometimes, particularly with x64 images, I have found that the WIM can exceed the 4GB limit. So, out of habit, I now convert my WIM files to ESD.

    I haven't tried WIM files for some time, so I will test these soon to see what sizes I get.
     
  10. Feartamixg

    Feartamixg MDL Addicted

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    Tested only with x86 image due to time constraints.

    WIM file was 2.56GB and took about 4:55 to reach the Cortana OOBE screen.
    ESD file was 2.18GB and took about 4:43 to reach the Cortana OOBE screen.

    I agree building the ESD file takes about an extra 10-15 minutes. But I feel the size reduction alone is worth it.
     
  11. gilbert1a

    gilbert1a MDL Novice

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    Thank you very much for the test. The time difference was not very big. Most likely you have a more modern computer. I often have to maintain obsolete computers at work, where the difference in installation time between wim and esd reaches 50-60%.
     
  12. Krager

    Krager MDL Senior Member

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    #9373 Krager, Jan 11, 2019
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    Thanks for the help guys, I'll mess with it some more. I don't ~have~ to do the component cleanup, just would like to get it working in case I need it to reduce the size of the image, that cleanup takes a long time to run. This stuff is pretty involved and can be confusing at times, kind of puts me in my place.
     
  13. hoxlund

    hoxlund MDL Member

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    Also ESD files are just encrypted WIM. See why using ESD file doesn't work? It's encrypted.
     
  14. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #9375 Enthousiast, Jan 11, 2019
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    ESD is not the same as install.esd;)

    And ESD's are not encrypted since 15063 (iirc) was released.

    Compressing install.wim to install.esd saves approx. 30-33% in file size.
     
  15. THUMPer1

    THUMPer1 MDL Junior Member

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    The weirdest thing is going on.
    My sticky notes crashes all the time. If I remove it from the image and install it through the store, it will crash. If I leave it in the image, and remove other random apps it will stay installed but crash. Does anyone know if sticky notes is dependent on anything
    else?? Here is event viewer crash info.


    Faulting application name: Microsoft.Notes.exe, version: 3.1.46.0, time stamp: 0x5bec8d97
    Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 10.0.17763.134, time stamp: 0x1659a33b
    Exception code: 0xe06d7363
    Fault offset: 0x0000000000055299
    Faulting process id: 0x2460
    Faulting application start time: 0x01d4a9ec26ebf23e
    Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.MicrosoftStickyNotes_3.1.46.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\Microsoft.Notes.exe
    Faulting module path: C:\Windows\System32\KERNELBASE.dll
    Report Id: 078bb991-2484-4285-bdc8-2564bf778ca7
    Faulting package full name: Microsoft.MicrosoftStickyNotes_3.1.46.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
    Faulting package-relative application ID: App
     
  16. Krager

    Krager MDL Senior Member

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    Got rid of the "file not found" problem with component cleanup, but now I'm getting some weirdness. When component cleanup runs the second time (after component removal) it only runs to twenty percent then says it completed successfully. Makes no difference in the size of the final image whether I run component cleanup a second time or not. Output below;
    Code:
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.17763.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.17763.253
    
    [===========                20.0%                          ]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    One note, I'm not using the /ResetBase switch because I found it doesn't make much difference in the final size of the image and it disables the Reset Windows feature.

    Script below for ref;

    Code:
    dism /mount-wim /wimfile:d:\temp\install.wim /index:1 /mountdir:d:\temp\wim_offline
    dism /image:d:\temp\wim_offline /add-driver /driver:d:\home\comp\software\win10\build\drivers /recurse
    dism /image:d:\temp\wim_offline /add-package /packagepath:d:\home\comp\software\win10\updates\kb4470788_serv_stack_12-05-18_1809-x64.msu
    dism /image:d:\temp\wim_offline /add-package /packagepath:d:\home\comp\software\win10\updates\kb4480116_cumulative_01-08-19_1809-x64.msu
    dism /image:d:\temp\wim_offline /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup
    
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline AADBrokerPlugin
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline AssignedAccessLockApp
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline BioEnrollment
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline ContentDeliveryManager
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline Cortana
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline EdgeDevToolsClient
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline LockApp
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline MapControl
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline ParentalControls
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline PeopleExperienceHost
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline QuickAssist
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline RetailDemoContent
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline SettingSync
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline SkypeORTC
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline SmartScreen
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline WindowsDefender
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline WindowsMixedReality
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline WindowsReaderPDF
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline XboxApp
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline XboxGameCallableUI
    
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline AdobeFlashForWindows
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline AssignedAccess
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline CEIP_SQM
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline DeviceLockdown
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline EaseOfAccessThemes
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline FirstLogonAnimation
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline HomeGroup
    ::toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline InternetExplorer
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline KernelDebugging
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline MultiPointConnector
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline RemoteAssistance
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline SnippingTool
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline UnifiedTelemetryClient
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline WindowsErrorReporting
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline WindowsPhotoViewer
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline WindowsSubsystemForLinux
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline WindowsToGo
    toolkithelper d:\temp\wim_offline WinSAT
    
    dism /image:d:\temp\wim_offline /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup
    dism /image:d:\temp\wim_offline /enable-feature /featurename:netfx3 /source:e:\sources\sxs
    dism /unmount-wim /mountdir:d:\temp\wim_offline /commit
    
     
  17. THUMPer1

    THUMPer1 MDL Junior Member

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    I have the same issue.
     
  18. sonnet

    sonnet MDL Novice

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    I've tried version 9.1 with RS4 image and when I select option 4 (Remove), it doesn't show me options to remove stuff but rather gives me the same options I'd get if I press 5.
    Anyone elese get this issue?
    I wasn't getting this issue with version 8.8
     
  19. AsaadSoft

    AsaadSoft MDL Addicted

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    after installing the OS, is it necessery to run

    DISM / Online / Cleanup-Image / StartComponentCleanup / ResetBase
    ??

    what does this command do ? and why should one run it ?
    what if one didn't ??