1. nosirrahx

    nosirrahx MDL Expert

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    Let me ask this a different way.

    Let's say someone uses the media creation tool to grab 1809 and then tries to modify it only to discover an error with MSMG, what is offered as support?
     
  2. Yanta

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    taking Windows 10 User's comment a step further;
    Which is what installing NetFX3.5 does?? So if I was going to do multiple tests removing one or two components at a time, I'd be best NOT to integrate NetFX3.5?
     
  3. Supern00b

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    Just do .net 3.5 post deployment with Abbodi's installer. It's quick and you don't have to deal with the pending flag.

    Cheers.
     
  4. MSMG

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    .NetFX3 will be integrated at the last and so when you have the working image then you can integrate it, it won't break anything.

    Which is the component that broke Games Pack.

     
  6. MSMG

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    There' s no other way test which component is breaking unless you know what the error is associated with.

    If you are doing just the component removal then you need to do the cleanup twice, once before and once after the removal otherwise the cleanup will give errors after the component removal an that's why I have advised to do it twice.

    Component removal is like beta testing your OS, today there might not be having issues but tomorrow may or may not the bug can crop up.

     
  7. Windows 10 User

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    Do you know if I remove .NET Framework 2.0, 3.0 and 3.5 and the .NET Cache Assembly and configure Windows 10 to always use the latest CLR for .NET Assemblies I might have problems with certain UWP/Win32 apps (like old ones)?
     
  8. Supern00b

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    Yep I had this. Even when set to always use the latest .Net, some app would break if 3.5 was not configured.
    I would certainly like to get rid of it, but can't risk to break apps that need that specific version.

    Cheers.
     
  9. boyonthebus

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    I don't remove those which you speak, but I don't add the .NET3.5, and configure Windows to always use latest CLR, and don't run into any problems.
     
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  10. Yanta

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    Still working through it. The latest image has removed items A,B,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,M from advanced components. Should be ready to test shortly.
     
  11. Windows 10 User

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    Thanks.
     
  12. biatche

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    MSMG: If I do not remove /

    1. MSMG: If i do not touch any of these, but remove others, i wont get sfc errors right?
    2. that rd /s /q del /q -- how does this affect anyone who used v9.1?

    I plan to do an important deployment tomorrow and I can't delay it any longer. I need to know what's on the line.
     
  13. Yanta

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    It's looking like it is Windows Media Player that is breaking the Audio on the W7 Games for W10.

    I have a couple of components left to prove it (CEIP, WER, Kernel Debugger and Snipping tool yet to be tested) which I'll get to tomorrow.
    As you can see from the process below the Audio only broke on the step with WMP removed (Step 7) and when WMP was tried as the only additional component removed other than those proven to be OK.

    The testing was done on a vanilla 17763.1 ISO with no updates applied. The images also have not had NetFX3 integrated.
    I'm using v9.1 of the toolkit. Win32 Calc and DirectX9.0c and Samsung NVMe drivers have been integrated. No language packs were integrated

    OK, exact sequence;

    Step 1: Build Base image: 1,1 \ 3,2,1 \ 3,2,2 \ 3,2,3 \ 3,3,B \ 3,3,L \ 6,1 \ 6,2 \ 6,1 \ 7,1 [Backup WIM] --OK--
    Step 2: Remove safe apps: 1,1 \ 4,1,1,ALL \ 4,1,2,ALL \ 6,1 \ 6,2 \ 6,1 \ 7,1 [Backup WIM] [Build ISO] [Install & Test] --OK--
    Step 3: Remove Adv Comp1: 1,1 \ 4,1,3 \ A,B,C,E,F \ 6,1 \ 6,2 \ 6,1 \ 7,1 [Backup WIM] [Build ISO] [Install & Test] --OK--
    Step 4: Remove Adv Comp2: 1,1 \ 4,1,3 \ G,H,I,J,M \ 6,1 \ 6,2 \ 6,1 \ 7,1 [Backup WIM] [Build ISO] [Install & Test] --OK--
    Step 5: Remove Adv Comp3: 1,1 \ 4,1,3 \ O,P,R,S,T \ 6,1 \ 6,2 \ 6,1 \ 7,1 [Backup WIM] [Build ISO] [Install & Test] --OK--
    Step 6: Remove Adv Comp4: 1,1 \ 4,1,3 \ U,X,Z,1,3,4,5 \ 6,1 \ 6,2 \ 6,1 \ 7,1 [Backup WIM] [Build ISO] [Install & Test] --OK--
    Step 7: Remove Adv Comp5: 1,1 \ 4,1,3 \ C,K,N,Q,V,W,Y \ 6,1 \ 6,2 \ 6,1 \ 7,1 [Backup WIM] [Build ISO] [Install & Test] --FAIL--

    Now rolling back to WIM from step 6 and removing remaining components one at a time

    Step 8: Remove Adv Comp4: 1,1 \ 4,1,3 \ W (WMP) \ 6,1 \ 6,2 \ 6,1 \ 7,1 [Backup WIM] [Build ISO] [Install & Test] --FAIL--
    Step 9: Remove Adv Comp4: 1,1 \ 4,1,3 \ C (CEIP) \ 6,1 \ 6,2 \ 6,1 \ 7,1 [Backup WIM] [Build ISO] [Install & Test] --IN PROGRES--

    Photo Viewer, Winsat, Paint and Manual setup are the only components never removed - they are known to be OK (I have never removed them)
     
  14. MSMG

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    #9495 MSMG, Jan 18, 2019
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    - Yes you wont get SFC errors for other components.

    - You can remove the rd /s /q part from that line, it only removes the backup files and so it won't affect anything.

    If you could wait for 1-2 days, I may be uploading a newer version of ToolKitHelper.exe with some improvements to few components.

     
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    #9496 MSMG, Jan 18, 2019
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    So WMP is cause of no sound, will check with the component to see if any dependent files are present in it.

    I think WindowsSAT might be required for Game Explorer to show the rating.

     
  16. biatche

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    Well, I'm flown to do some deployment over the weekend, but I could try to do it Sunday... but its unfair to make you to ready things for my sakes, especially if i can help it. Hehe.
     
  17. windows builder

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