1. Yanta

    Yanta MDL Senior Member

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    #13961 Yanta, Jan 27, 2020
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    Well, after a week of rebuilding with 9.5 and adjusting my post installation script to account for the changes in the image with 9.5 the issue persists.

    I installed the new image on two almost identical PCs. Only the CPU and memory speed are different. Everything else is the same. On the first PC everything is fine. On my PC when I right click any MKV file on an optical drive explorer still crashes. And a new one - On settings app, clicking Focus Assist causes the settings app to crash.

    The image integrates updates from July 2019 and uses a 8 month old video driver. I used older stuff because I was going to work forward to see if the issue was related to a recent Windows patch or Video driver, but as I said, on one PC it's fine and on the other it crashes - both using the same image and same script.

    This is what's been removed from the image, though it it's fine on one and not on the other, I suspect it's not the Windows image that's causing the problem.

    Code:
    MSMG Tookit v9.5; Menu 4.1  [R=Removed, A=Added]
    
    ===============================================================================
    4.1.1                 MSMG ToolKit - Remove Internet Components Menu
    ===============================================================================
    
    R  [1]  Adobe Flash For Windows
    R  [2]  Internet Explorer
    
    ===============================================================================
    4.1.2                 MSMG ToolKit - Remove Multimedia Components Menu
    ===============================================================================
    
    R  [1]  First Logon Animation
    R  [2]  Game Explorer | Needed for Microsoft Games
    R  [3]  Snipping Tool
    R  [4]  Speech Recognition | Needed for Cortana
    R  [5]  Windows Media Player
       [6]  Windows Photo Viewer
       [7]  Windows System Assessment Tool
    
    ===============================================================================
    4.1.3                  MSMG ToolKit - Remove Privacy Components Menu
    ===============================================================================
    
    R  [A]  Assigned Access
    R  [B]  Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP)
    R  [C]  Face Recognition
    R  [D]  Kernel Debugging | Depends on: Windows Error Reporting
    R  [E]  Location Service
    R  [F]  Picture Password
    R  [G]  Pin SignIn Support
    R  [H]  Unified Telemetry Client (Asimov) | Depends on: Windows Error Reporting
    R  [I]  WiFi Network Manager (WiFi Sense)
    R  [J]  Windows Error Reporting
    R  [K]  Windows Insider Hub
    
    ===============================================================================
    4.1.4                 MSMG ToolKit - Remove Remoting Components Menu
    ===============================================================================
    
    R  [1]  Home Group
    R  [2]  MultiPoint Connector
    R  [3]  Remote Assistance
    
    ===============================================================================
    4.1.5                  MSMG ToolKit - Remove System Components Menu
    ===============================================================================
    
    R  [1]  Device Lockdown (Embedded Experience)
       [2]  Classic Paint
    R  [3]  Ease of Access Themes
       [4]  Manual Setup (InPlace Upgrade)
    R  [5]  Security Center | Depends on: Windows Defender
    R  [6]  System Restore
    R  [7]  Windows Subsystem For Linux
    R  [8]  Windows To Go
    
    ===============================================================================
    4.1.6                  MSMG ToolKit - Remove System Apps Menu
    ===============================================================================
    R  [A]  Assigned Access Lock App | Depends on: Assigned Access
    R    Azure Active Directory AppX Broker Plugin
    R  [C]  Bio Enrollment App
    R  [D]  Camera Barcode Scanner
    R  [E]  Connect App
    R  [F]  Content Delivery Manager | Needed for Out of Box Experience
    R  [G]  Cortana, StartMenu & Settings Search App | Depends on: Speech Recognition
    R  [H]  Edge
    R    Eye Control App
    R  [J]  File Explorer App
    R  [K]  Lockscreen App
    R  [L]  Map Control
    R  [M]  Narrator QuickStart
    R  [N]  OneDrive Desktop Client
    R  [O]  Parental Controls
    R  [P]  People Bar
    R  [Q]  Quick Assist App
    R  [R]  Retail Demo Content
    R    Setting Sync
    R  [T]  Skype ORTC
    R    Smart Screen | Depends on: Windows Defender
    R  [V]  Take Test App
    R  [W]  Win32 Web View Host
    R  [X]  Windows Defender App
    R  [Y]  Windows Mixed Reality
    R  [Z]  Windows Store | Depends on: Smart Screen
    R  [1]  Xbox App
    R  [2]  Xbox Game Callable UI
    R  [3]  Xbox Identity Provider
    
    ===============================================================================
    4.1.7                  MSMG ToolKit - Remove Windows Apps Menu
    ===============================================================================
    R  [A]  Advertising Xaml
    R    Alarms & Clock App
    R  [C]  Calculator App
    R  [D]  Camera App
    R  [E]  Desktop App Installer
    R  [F]  Feedback Hub App
    R  [G]  Films & TV App
    R  [H]  Get Help App
         Google's VP9 WebM Video Codec Plugin
    R  [J]  Groove Music App
       [K]  High Efficiency Image File (HEIF) Codec Plugin
    R  [L]  Maps App | Depends on: Map Control
    R  [M]  Messaging App
    R  [N]  Microsoft Pay App
    R  [O]  Mixed Reality Portal App | Depends on: Windows Mixed Reality
    R  [P]  Mixed Reality Viewer App | Depends on: Windows Mixed Reality
    R  [Q]  Mobile Plans App
    R  [R]  My Office App
    R    OneNote App
    R  [T]  Paint 3D App
    R    People App | Depends on: People Bar
    R  [V]  Photos App
    R  [W]  Print 3D App
    R  [X]  Screen Sketch App
    R  [Y]  Skype App
    R  [Z]  Solitaire Collection App | Depends on: Xbox Game Callable UI
    R  [0]  Sticky Notes App
    R  [1]  Tips App
    R  [2]  Voice Recorder App
    R  [3]  Weather App | Depends on: Advertising Xaml
       [4]  Web Media Codec Plugin
       [5]  WebP Image Codec Plugin
    R  [6]  Windows Mail App | Depends on: Advertising Xaml
    R  [7]  Your Phone App
    
    ===============================================================================
                          MSMG ToolKit - Apply Tweaks Menu
    ===============================================================================
    
       [A]   Disable Cortana App
    A     Hide Taskbar TaskView Icon
    A  [C]   Disable Automatic Driver Updates through Windows Update
    A  [D]   Disable Automatic Downloading and Installing 3rd Party Apps
    A  [E]   Disable Windows Defender
    A  [F]   Disable Automatic Windows Upgrade
       [G]   Disable Windows Update
       [H]   Disable Microsoft Reserved Storage Space for Windows Updates
          Force .NET Programs to Use Newest .NET Framework
    A  [J]   Enable Windows Photo Viewer
       [K]   Enable Fraunhofer MP3 Professional Codec
       [L]   Enable DISM Image Cleanup with Full ResetBase
    
    
    ===============================================================================
               Items Integrated / Added
    ===============================================================================
    
    Windows 10 July 2019 CU 17763.652.1.12
    DirectX 9.0c
    DotNet 3.5
    DotNet 4.8
    Win32 Calc
    
     
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    The strikethru's will be gone when you use code tags:)
    Code:
    MSMG Tookit v9.5; Menu 4.1 [R=Removed, A=Added]
    
    ===============================================================================
    4.1.1 MSMG ToolKit - Remove Internet Components Menu
    ===============================================================================
    
    R [1] Adobe Flash For Windows
    R [2] Internet Explorer
    
    ===============================================================================
    4.1.2 MSMG ToolKit - Remove Multimedia Components Menu
    ===============================================================================
    
    R [1] First Logon Animation
    R [2] Game Explorer | Needed for Microsoft Games
    R [3] Snipping Tool
    R [4] Speech Recognition | Needed for Cortana
    R [5] Windows Media Player
    [6] Windows Photo Viewer
    [7] Windows System Assessment Tool
    
    ===============================================================================
    4.1.3 MSMG ToolKit - Remove Privacy Components Menu
    ===============================================================================
    
    R [A] Assigned Access
    R Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP)
    R [C] Face Recognition
    R [D] Kernel Debugging | Depends on: Windows Error Reporting
    R [E] Location Service
    R [F] Picture Password
    R [G] Pin SignIn Support
    R [H] Unified Telemetry Client (Asimov) | Depends on: Windows Error Reporting
    R WiFi Network Manager (WiFi Sense)
    R [J] Windows Error Reporting
    R [K] Windows Insider Hub
    
    ===============================================================================
    4.1.4 MSMG ToolKit - Remove Remoting Components Menu
    ===============================================================================
    
    R [1] Home Group
    R [2] MultiPoint Connector
    R [3] Remote Assistance
    
    ===============================================================================
    4.1.5 MSMG ToolKit - Remove System Components Menu
    ===============================================================================
    
    R [1] Device Lockdown (Embedded Experience)
    [2] Classic Paint
    R [3] Ease of Access Themes
    [4] Manual Setup (InPlace Upgrade)
    R [5] Security Center | Depends on: Windows Defender
    R [6] System Restore
    R [7] Windows Subsystem For Linux
    R [8] Windows To Go
    
    ===============================================================================
    4.1.6 MSMG ToolKit - Remove System Apps Menu
    ===============================================================================
    R [A] Assigned Access Lock App | Depends on: Assigned Access
    R Azure Active Directory AppX Broker Plugin
    R [C] Bio Enrollment App
    R [D] Camera Barcode Scanner
    R [E] Connect App
    R [F] Content Delivery Manager | Needed for Out of Box Experience
    R [G] Cortana, StartMenu & Settings Search App | Depends on: Speech Recognition
    R [H] Edge
    R Eye Control App
    R [J] File Explorer App
    R [K] Lockscreen App
    R [L] Map Control
    R [M] Narrator QuickStart
    R [N] OneDrive Desktop Client
    R [O] Parental Controls
    R [P] People Bar
    R [Q] Quick Assist App
    R [R] Retail Demo Content
    R Setting Sync
    R [T] Skype ORTC
    R Smart Screen | Depends on: Windows Defender
    R [V] Take Test App
    R [W] Win32 Web View Host
    R [X] Windows Defender App
    R [Y] Windows Mixed Reality
    R [Z] Windows Store | Depends on: Smart Screen
    R [1] Xbox App
    R [2] Xbox Game Callable UI
    R [3] Xbox Identity Provider
    
    ===============================================================================
    4.1.7 MSMG ToolKit - Remove Windows Apps Menu
    ===============================================================================
    R [A] Advertising Xaml
    R Alarms & Clock App
    R [C] Calculator App
    R [D] Camera App
    R [E] Desktop App Installer
    R [F] Feedback Hub App
    R [G] Films & TV App
    R [H] Get Help App
    Google's VP9 WebM Video Codec Plugin
    R [J] Groove Music App
    [K] High Efficiency Image File (HEIF) Codec Plugin
    R [L] Maps App | Depends on: Map Control
    R [M] Messaging App
    R [N] Microsoft Pay App
    R [O] Mixed Reality Portal App | Depends on: Windows Mixed Reality
    R [P] Mixed Reality Viewer App | Depends on: Windows Mixed Reality
    R [Q] Mobile Plans App
    R [R] My Office App
    R OneNote App
    R [T] Paint 3D App
    R People App | Depends on: People Bar
    R [V] Photos App
    R [W] Print 3D App
    R [X] Screen Sketch App
    R [Y] Skype App
    R [Z] Solitaire Collection App | Depends on: Xbox Game Callable UI
    R [0] Sticky Notes App
    R [1] Tips App
    R [2] Voice Recorder App
    R [3] Weather App | Depends on: Advertising Xaml
    [4] Web Media Codec Plugin
    [5] WebP Image Codec Plugin
    R [6] Windows Mail App | Depends on: Advertising Xaml
    R [7] Your Phone App
    
    ===============================================================================
    MSMG ToolKit - Apply Tweaks Menu
    ===============================================================================
    
    [A] Disable Cortana App
    A Hide Taskbar TaskView Icon
    A [C] Disable Automatic Driver Updates through Windows Update
    A [D] Disable Automatic Downloading and Installing 3rd Party Apps
    A [E] Disable Windows Defender
    A [F] Disable Automatic Windows Upgrade
    [G] Disable Windows Update
    [H] Disable Microsoft Reserved Storage Space for Windows Updates
    Force .NET Programs to Use Newest .NET Framework
    A [J] Enable Windows Photo Viewer
    [K] Enable Fraunhofer MP3 Professional Codec
    [L] Enable DISM Image Cleanup with Full ResetBase
    
    
    ===============================================================================
    Items Integrated / Added
    ===============================================================================
    
    Windows 10 July 2019 CU 17763.652.1.12
    DirectX 9.0c
    DotNet 3.5
    DotNet 4.8
    Win32 Calc
     
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  3. Feartamixg

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    I was able to use my normal method, which includes removing apps, just fine. Make sure you use the latest ToolKitHelper.exe.
     
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    Hello, MSMG! Can I find out the approximate date when the new Microsoft Edge (Chromium) integration feature will be added to the MSMG Toolkit? Thanks.
     
  6. Yanta

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    Curious. Two identical PCs, built from the same image, with exactly the same registry, services and task scheduler tweaks. With almost the same applications. The test PC has Winpcap and wireshark and mine does not, but mine has DVDFab and the Test PC does not. I'll check that.

    I'm going to swap CPUs around the PCs. If the test PC then has the problem and mine does not, I wonder where that leaves me? It's a I9-10940X.

    One bit of good news though. The waking from sleep issue that has plagued me for the last 5 years now seems to be fixed. Yay!

    The 2020-01 CU allegedly has some changes to explorer.exe so maybe I'll try that too (I normally stay a month behind on CUs because of Microsoft's inability to release a stable CU first time around).
     
  7. Tiger-1

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    hmm very complicated ;) for me since S. Nadela got there it became a real mess in my opinion M$FT was never the same ... and with regard to her CPU it is a wonder I think the problem is not related to her look I love you thing that happened to me a few years ago believe me if i wanted to be at home working in maintenance of pc's behold, a very rich "friend" arrives and when he saw my machine and it was brand new and said: wow that machine !! and when he left the machine he never started again so I took it with all my might and popped it on a pole in front of my house, but back to the topic you didn't get to test those alternatives that I indicated? or will you do the same thing as me hope not I hope and I know that you will solve this problem:)
     
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  8. MSMG

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    #13969 MSMG, Jan 28, 2020
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    It should work as long as there are no major changes in CU but the ToolkitHelper was updated last for 18363.535.

    Was about to add the support for 18363.I.592 but now a new CU 18363.628 has come out, will update to the latest one itself.

     
  9. MSMG

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    The Toolkit removes almost all the Windows Defender packages except few like the Windows Defender Firewall, Only testing can know if it will break the SFC.


     
  10. MSMG

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    For LTSC 2019 component removal the only supported build is 17763.1

     
  11. MSMG

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    Only Apps won't return back and updating with a new CU will completely restore the all other components removed.

    If the WU is failing, you can do try installing it with offline .msu or .cab file to see if it's working.

    Yes, disabling components can be achieved by registry and tasks setting, will explore which components can be disabled and try to provide an option for that too.

     
  12. MSMG

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    The latest version had been updated for both the 1809 and 1909, right now working on support for 18363.628 and will be adding fixes for 1809 too, just wait for two-three days will upload the newer version.

     
  13. MSMG

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    It requires some major changes to the script, have added the feature to my To-Do list, will implement it in future.

     
  14. MSMG

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    You mean the MRT, In Toolkit when the Defender is removed, I have added the tweak to disable MRT from getting downloaded through the WU.

     
  15. MSMG

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    It's the Windows Store which provides the update for Windows Apps and not the CU.

     
  16. MSMG

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    1) Yes it uses a variable to set yes/no for the registry load and unload function and depending on it's value the menu text is changed dynamically.

    2) Yes most client recovery images are same in each index, may be in server it might be differing.

    This option was made to reduce the time it takes to mount and integrate updates to each recovery image.

    Will checkout if it needs any changes for the server images.

     
  17. MSMG

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    #13978 MSMG, Jan 28, 2020
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    Although for LTSC 2019, the Toolkit have set the 17763.1 as the base image since it can update to latest update without returning components but still the ideal method would be to remove components with updates integrated as some registry keys or files may get changed at some point breaking the OS functionality.

    If you are removing some components like Cortana, Defender than don't again choose the same in Tweaks section since it will be already there in the removal process.

    Would like to add support for LTSC 2019 image with updates integrated but don't know when I will be doing it due to lack of time.

     
  18. MSMG

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    Still I haven't started it, when I do start updating the Toolkit script will be updating some of the packs and will be working on the Edge Chromium pack together.

     
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