MSMG ToolKit

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  1. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Corporate can use the typewriter OS Enterprise LTSB/C or normal Enterprise.
    Education can use Education.
     
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  2. PMC11

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    So forced re-installation of components with CUs does not happen on these editions?
     
  3. boyonthebus

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    Remember it is quite unnecessary to remove anything from Windows 10. Sure, there is a small size difference, but there is virtually no performance gain. You can just as easily unpin programs you don't want from the Start Menu. The Windows 10 Start Menu is very easy to customize. Much easier than Windows 7. As @Enthousiast said Education environments, and manufacturing/corporate environments can use LTSC, Enterprise, or Education which do not have the extra added games beyond MS Solitaire suite, and don't have News apps, etc. Personally I use Professional Workstation.
     
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  4. boyonthebus

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    These install a different set of apps from Home and Pro.
     
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  5. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    On 1809 it doesn't happen, iirc.
     
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  6. PMC11

    PMC11 MDL Novice

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    So up to date 19xx or the new 20xx, even on Enterprise / Education, will force re-installation of removed components via CU?

    This seems extraordinary to me, even by MS' standards.

    I don't doubt that LTSC doesn't, but that's less than ideal in my case. I'm running Zen2, and LTSC doesn't have any of the scheduler updates.
     
  7. Enthousiast

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    MS standards can be at the level of, this is what we created and this is what is working, chopping will create future problems (with all respect for MSMG), and will be more difficult with every new build.
     
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  8. Supern00b

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    That's correct, but you'll likely only notice the impact with heavy workloads (several VM's for example).
    I'm running LTSC on Zen2 and would not consider upgrading to 1903 or later with the current situation of components being restored.
    Maybe I won't update at all until the new LTS flavor comes out in a couple of years.

    Cheers.
     
  9. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    You can remove the packages from Client editions too, starting with Redstone 2, the Microsoft changed the packages by merging many standalone packages into sub packages of other main packages.

    Windows Defender back-end can be removed using it's package names using the DISM but this method won't completely remove the packages, many left over items will be there.

    You may need to un-hide the package visibility to make them removable via DISM or use tools like Install_wim_tweak or ToolKit's remove components using package list to remove them.

    Code:
    Windows-Defender-AM-Default-Definitions-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1
    Windows-Defender-AppLayer-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1
    Windows-Defender-ApplicationGuard-Inbox-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1
    Windows-Defender-Client-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1
    Windows-Defender-Core-Group-amcore-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1
    Windows-Defender-Core-Group-onecore-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1
    Windows-Defender-Core-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1
    Windows-Defender-Group-Policy-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1
    Windows-Defender-Management-Group-amcore-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1
    Windows-Defender-Management-Group-onecore-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1
    Windows-Defender-Management-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1
    Windows-Defender-Management-MDM-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1
    Windows-Defender-Management-Powershell-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1
    Windows-Defender-Nis-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1
    
    The below system apps need to be manually removed

    Windows Defender Front-end UI is a System Appx (Microsoft.Windows.SecHealthUI_cw5n1h2txyewy)
    SmartScreen is a System Appx (Microsoft.Windows.AppRep.ChxApp_cw5n1h2txyewy)


    I haven't checked with the Insider preview builds to know what major changes the MS has done to packages.


     
  10. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Yes can be integrated, just need to capture the installation and convert it into a pack compatible for ToolKit.

     
  11. MSMG

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    Don't worry will come up with some workaround for removing returned components on live systems until a full fix is complete.

     
  12. MSMG

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    Only the regular Windows components and System Apps will be returned when updating with CU.

    if you are thinking of only removing the Windows Apps that are available through the store then you can use the ToolKit safely to remove them since they won't be returned with the CU installation.

     
  13. biatche

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    by using dism to remove defender leaving leftovers, would it render the leftovers unusable? i mean if its just a few files, cant we leave em there?
     
  14. biatche

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    i wanna remove xbox, telemetry stuff, obvious bloat stuff . i could just use registry changes to disable defender, smartscreen, right? will CU still bring em back?

    at this point i dont even mind leaving edge on
     
  15. MSMG

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    The only issue using this method is that it may break other shared components.

    Some components like Xbox, Store, Maps have back-end files that are restored by CU, Yes the CU may restore the disabled keys sometimes which may have to be monitored and disabled.

     
  16. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    I have uploaded the Edge Chromium Pack (W7/W81) for Toolkit, do test the pack and report for any issues.

    Code:
    15efb00ec63714a4e9546dc58a4e60ce39e82b11    Packs\EdgeChromium\EdgeChromium_w7_x64.reg  
    cff5db9332504a8bbf52af070e18b8c2733c385e    Packs\EdgeChromium\EdgeChromium_w7_x64.tpk  
    f40c2c26db8db6f4dfbd6c2fc0c29f051446022e    Packs\EdgeChromium\EdgeChromium_w7_x86.reg  
    6b5379ff33f8860e77c0ebbe91297049a273c2e2    Packs\EdgeChromium\EdgeChromium_w7_x86.tpk  
    9da6336a04fb13d317f669d6efaa0b2034b519a4    Packs\EdgeChromium\EdgeChromium_w81_x64.reg  
    4ce0ed38b4f8937d42c81a6357a52cc158147555    Packs\EdgeChromium\EdgeChromium_w81_x64.tpk
    
    Will upload the newer pack for W10 tomorrow.
     
  17. amnester

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    Hi! How can I install DirectX9c; Games ; Sidebar for Win10Pro_2004-19041 via the command line ? Thanks !
     
  18. MSMG

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    If you can wait for one or two days I will be uploading the next version of Toolkit with support for W10 v2004 packs integration.

     
  19. Feartamixg

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    Are you waiting for the next Cumulative Update, which is expected to be released next Tuesday? AKA: Patch Tuesday on the second Tuesday of each month.
     
  20. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    No already I have updated the ToolKitHelper for the current CU (18363.693) and since the change-log for v9.6 has become lengthy, so thought it's time to release one.