1. biatche

    biatche MDL Addicted

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    ive never used insider iso's before. any suggestions on which iso [enterprise & pro] i should use?
     
  2. boyonthebus

    boyonthebus MDL Expert

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    The latest one released. In this case it is 19577.
     
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  3. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    18362.30 is v1903, for component removal the Toolkit requires the v1909 (18363.418) as base and also does work with the latest CU.

    - Mount the 18362.30 image.
    - Copy all the required latest updates including the v1909 Enablement package to WHD folder structure in ToolKit.
    - Integrate using the Toolkit's WHD Update Pack Menu.
    - Remove the Components using the ToolKit's Remove->Windows Components Menu.

     
  4. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Pro should be sufficient for average user but if you go for Enterprise you will get the option to set the Telemetry level to security only.

     
  5. ogoriaipfds

    ogoriaipfds MDL Novice

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    You misled me when I talked about Windows Server; I meant that it can be deleted through PowerShell on Windows 10. It cannot be deleted by standard Windows tools.

    Or is all this possible?

    p.s.
    All my attempts are unsuccessful, in that case!
     
  6. MSMG

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    May be I miss read your query, well be it Windows 7, 8, 8.1 or 10 (Client, Embedded and Server) the standard packages listed by the below command can be removed by standard DISM tool.

    Code:
    Dism /Online /Get-Packages
    
    The packages present in C:\Windows\Servicing\Packages and not listed by the above command needs a small registry modification which can be done by standard regedit.exe tool to make them visible with the above command and then it can be removed using the DISM.

    I do know the PowerShell uses the DISM Cmdlet's to handle the packages but I don't know whether it can handle the packages for whom there's no associated .mum files.

    So my answer for removal of packages like Cortana, Smartscreen using the standard DISM tool is not possible.

     
  7. ogoriaipfds

    ogoriaipfds MDL Novice

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    registry tweak?

    Okay, I think I have to limit myself to a normal shutdown. There is one good news, they are unlikely to change Trustedinstaller, because it can cause a global problem.

    Code:
    reg load "HKLM\TK_SOFTWARE" "%~dp0mount\Windows\System32\config\SOFTWARE"
    reg add "HKLM\TK_SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Features" /v "TamperProtection" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f >nul 2>&1
    reg add "HKLM\TK_SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender" /v "DisableAntiSpyware" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f >nul 2>&1
    reg unload "HKLM\TK_SOFTWARE"
    Will it be enough for a complete shutdown or not?


    This question arose on its own, because the defender’s settings seem endless. For example, a small part of them ...

    Code:
    + Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > File Explorer:
       + Double-click "Configure Windows Defender SmartScreen" : Disabled -> OK
    
       reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System" /v "EnableSmartScreen" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
    
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    + Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Defender Antivirus:
      + Double-click "Turn Off Windows Defender Antivirus" : Enabled -> OK
    
      reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender" /v "DisableAntiSpyware" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
    
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    + Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Defender Antivirus > MAPS:
      + Double-click "Join Microsoft MAPS" : Enabled; in the options select "Disabled" -> OK
      + Double-click "Send file samples when further analysis is required": Enabled; in the options select "Never send" -> OK
    
      reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Spynet" /v "SpynetReporting" /t "REG_DWORD" /d "0" /f
      reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Spynet" /v "SubmitSamplesConsent" /t "REG_DWORD" /d "2" /f
    
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    + Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Defender SmartScreen:
      + Double-click "Configure Windows Defender SmartScreen" : Disabled -> OK
            
      reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\MicrosoftEdge\PhishingFilter" /v "EnabledV9" /t "REG_DWORD" /d "0" /f
     
  8. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Please read the quote, 2004 is not in the range with 19577, 19577 is not related to 2004.
     
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  9. MSMG

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    The below tweak will make the package Windows-Defender-Client-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1 visible to DISM for removal.

    Code:
    reg add "HKLM\TK_SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Component Based Servicing\Packages\Windows-Defender-Client-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1" /v Visibility /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
    reg add "HKLM\TK_SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Component Based Servicing\Packages\Windows-Defender-Client-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1" /v DefVis /t REG_DWORD /d 2 /f
    reg delete "HKLM\TK_SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Component Based Servicing\Packages\Windows-Defender-Client-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1\Owners" /f
    
    then the Windows-Defender-Client-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1 package can be removed using the below DISM command.

    Code:
    dism /online /remove-package /packagename:Windows-Defender-Client-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.18362.1
    

    The below tweaks are sufficient to disable Defender and SmartScreen

    Code:
    ; Disable SmartScreen Filter
    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AppContainer\Storage\microsoft.microsoftedge_8wekyb3d8bbwe\MicrosoftEdge\PhishingFilter]
    "EnabledV9"=dword:00000000
    
    ; Disable Microsoft SpyNet membership
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Spynet]
    "SpyNetReporting"=dword:00000000
    
    ; Disable submitting data samples to Microsoft
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Spynet]
    "SubmitSamplesConsent"=dword:00000002
    
    ; Disable reporting of malware infection information
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\MRT]
    "DontReportInfectionInformation"=dword:00000001
    
    ; Disable Windows Defender
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender]
    "DisableAntiSpyware"=dword:00000001
    
    ; Disable Windows Defender Realtime Monitoring
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender]
    "DisableRealtimeMonitoring"=dword:00000001
    
    ; Disable Windows Defender Realtime Monitoring
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Real-Time Protection]
    "DisableBehaviorMonitoring"=dword:00000001
    "DisableOnAccessProtection"=dword:00000001
    "DisableScanOnRealtimeEnable"=dword:00000001
    
    ; Disable Windows Defender Tamper Protection
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Features]
    "TamperProtection"=dword:00000000
    
     
  10. ogoriaipfds

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  11. biatche

    biatche MDL Addicted

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    #14311 biatche, Mar 6, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2020
    oh you misunderstood me. i mean i already use both editions. was wondering what iso source you use (i'd just use the same to be sure things work)

    ill assume this works:
    19577.1000.200228-1439.RS_PRERELEASE_CLIENTMULTICOMBINED_UUP_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO
     
  12. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Well I don't really use the insider preview builds until it's very near to the RTM stage, right now I'm using the W10 v2004 (19041).

     
  13. onursourtimes

    onursourtimes MDL Novice

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    hello, thanks for making this toolkit.
    i am confused tho. can i use this toolkit on the windows version that comes with the windows ISO that i download from microsoft website right now?
    or should i go look for an older ISO. i don't know the latest build number that comes from a fresh downloaded ISO. please let me know if i'm good to go or if i should wait for a toolkit update. thanks again!
     
  14. Feartamixg

    Feartamixg MDL Addicted

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    Download 18363.418 ESD file from here: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/windows-10-esd-repository.59082/#post-992532

    Convert ESD file to ISO using the ESD Decrypter here: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/windows-10-esd-repository.59082/#post-992731

    This is how I create my base ISO image for working with MSMG ToolKit. The only time I have problems is my own fault, for example if I use wrong version.
     
  15. Feartamixg

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    #14316 Feartamixg, Mar 6, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2020
    @MSMG
    I do know that this ToolKit does not fully support 19041.84 yet, but I do hope that finding possible bugs now helps in the future!

    From the Integrate Menu, both options 3 (Windows Features) and 5 (Windows Custom Features) take me to the same Integrate Windows Custom Features Menu.
    ===============================================================================
    MSMG ToolKit - Integrate Windows Custom Features Menu
    ===============================================================================
    [1] Microsoft Terminal Server Patch

    [2] Custom Themes UxTheme Patch

    [3] Custom Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE)

    [4] Custom Default User Account Pictures

    [5] Custom System Files

    [6] Microsoft Win32Calc Metro Skin

    [7] Windows Photo Viewer Metro Skin

    [8] Windows Media Player Metro Skin


    [X] Go Back
    ===============================================================================

    Enter Your Choice :
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Source Image Information###################################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Image : Install.wim
    Image Index No : 1
    Image Name : Windows 10 Enterprise
    Image Description : Windows 10 Enterprise
    Image Architecture : x64
    Image Version : 10.0.19041
    Image Service Pack Build : 84
    Image Service Pack Level : 0
    Image Build : 19041
    Image Edition : Enterprise
    Image Flag : Enterprise
    Image Installation Type : Client
    Image Default Language : en-GB

    As expected, unable to remove any components. I do not feel comfortable using the command prompt to workaround this.

    Thank you once more for your good work and patience with me!
     
  16. stayboogy

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    #14317 stayboogy, Mar 7, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2020
    what are these "required updates" specifically? what KBs?

    *edit*--nevermind, this one works as-is 18363.592.200109-2252.19H2_RELEASE_SVC_REFRESH_CLIENTENTERPRISE_VOL_X64FRE_EN-US, which is what I was looking for to begin with. the whole point of removing components and such is to not add anything at all to the image including updates.
     
  17. MSMG

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    The next release will support the integration features for 19041 and for removal it may take some time.

     
  18. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Hope you have read the readme.txt properly and know that the removed components except Windows Apps will be returned once the Windows Updates is used or updates are integrated/installed offline.

    I do advise you to integrate the latest CU and then remove the components.

     
  19. amnester

    amnester MDL Junior Member

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    Hi! Is there any way to integrate the file with the extension .bat to the installation image? Thanks!