1. Ace2

    Ace2 MDL Guru

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    #16741 Ace2, Oct 15, 2020
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2020
    Use SxSv1

    1.Mount untouched install.wim to C:\mount

    2.Set path to mounted install.wim in SxSv1\_Helper\SxSExport.cmd goto ::Examples and set the path

    Code:
    set Path_Image=C:\mount\Windows

    Code:
    _Packagelist_Base.txt
    
    549;   Windows-Defender-AM-Default-Definitions-Package
    550;   Windows-Defender-AppLayer-Group-Package
    551;   Windows-Defender-ApplicationGuard-Inbox-Package
    552;   Windows-Defender-ApplicationGuard-Inbox-WOW64-Package
    553;   Windows-Defender-Client-Package
    554;   Windows-Defender-Core-Group-Package
    555;   Windows-Defender-Group-Policy-Package
    556;   Windows-Defender-Management-Group-Package
    557;   Windows-Defender-Management-MDM-Group-Package
    558;   Windows-Defender-Management-Powershell-Group-Package
    559;   Windows-Defender-Nis-Group-Package

    Code:
          Generating Base-Packagelist...
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
          Please look in:
          'C:\Users\User\Desktop\SxSv1\_Packagelist_Base.txt'
          and type the number of the Base-Package you want to export.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    >549
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-AM-Default-Definitions-Package
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-AM-Default-Definitions-Package (en-US)
    >550
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-AppLayer-Group-Package
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-AppLayer-Group-Package (en-US)
    >551
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-ApplicationGuard-Inbox-Package
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-ApplicationGuard-Inbox-Package (en-US)
    >552
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-ApplicationGuard-Inbox-WOW64-Package
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-ApplicationGuard-Inbox-WOW64-Package (en-US)
    >553
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-Client-Package
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-Client-Package (en-US)
    >554
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-Core-Group-Package
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-Core-Group-Package (en-US)
    >555
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-Group-Policy-Package
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-Group-Policy-Package (en-US)
    >556
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-Management-Group-Package
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-Management-Group-Package (en-US)
    >557
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-Management-MDM-Group-Package
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-Management-MDM-Group-Package (en-US)
    >558
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-Management-Powershell-Group-Package
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-Management-Powershell-Group-Package (en-US)
    >559
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-Nis-Group-Package
    In prog.: Windows-Defender-Nis-Group-Package (en-US)
    >
    Work's for me.;)

    Update: installed packages
    Code:
    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19041.572]
    (c) 2020 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
    
    C:\Windows\system32>dism /online /add-package /packagepath:C:\10.0.19041.1
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.19041.572
    
    Image Version: 10.0.19041.572
    
    Processing 1 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-AM-Default-Definitions-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 2 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-AppLayer-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 3 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-ApplicationGuard-Inbox-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 4 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-ApplicationGuard-Inbox-WOW64-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 5 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-Client-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 6 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-Core-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 7 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-Group-Policy-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 8 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-Management-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 9 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-Management-MDM-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 10 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-Management-Powershell-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 11 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-Nis-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    C:\Windows\system32>dism /online /add-package /packagepath:C:\10.0.19041.1\en-US
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.19041.572
    
    Image Version: 10.0.19041.572
    
    Processing 1 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-AM-Default-Definitions-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 2 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-AppLayer-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 3 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-ApplicationGuard-Inbox-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 4 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-ApplicationGuard-Inbox-WOW64-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 5 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-Client-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 6 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-Core-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 7 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-Group-Policy-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 8 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-Management-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 9 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-Management-MDM-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 10 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-Management-Powershell-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    Processing 11 of 11 - Adding package Windows-Defender-Nis-Group-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    C:\Windows\system32>
     
  2. ingviowarr

    ingviowarr MDL Senior Member

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    Yes, I agreed this is a good strategy for a long time.
    At the same time we are close to the moment when enthusiasts can make a modded image based on any rescent version even better than LTSC using modern hacky instruments.
    In the last Windows versions we have more relaxed limitations with removing Cortana, removing + switching to alternative Search, Start, AV, Browsers, etc.
    More alternative parts = more security/privacy.
     
  3. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Yes it's due to the left over of Windows Defender resource entries that's giving error, making changes to the removal program and will see how it works.

    For an experiment did checked with the DISM /Remove-Package for Defender removal on 64-bit Live system and tried to install the CU it failed.

    Will update the results with the ToolKitHelper program.

     
  4. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    The Toolkit uses the same DISM to integrate updates without any changes and while applying the changes only the WinSXS temporary files which are safe are cleaned.

    DISM /Cleanup-Image with /ResetBase was having issues with W10 v1809 but with later versions it was working, though the MS disables it by default, The Toolkit also by default doesn't use the /ResetBase switch unless it's enabled in the Tweaks section.

    Starting from v1909 WinSxS files needs to be retained for installing updates due to new update format.

     
  5. rorewe4314

    rorewe4314 MDL Member

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    #16746 rorewe4314, Oct 15, 2020
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2020
    MSMG,

    Code:
    Reg add "HKLM\TK_SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeliveryOptimization\Config" /v "DODownloadMode" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f >nul 2>&1
    Reg add "HKLM\TK_SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DeliveryOptimization" /v "DODownloadMode" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f >nul 2>&1
    
    These settings are added by O&O ShutUp10


    Code:
    Reg add "HKLM\TK_SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DeliveryOptimization" /v "OptInOOBE" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f >nul 2>&1
    Reg add "HKLM\TK_SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DeliveryOptimization" /v "DODownloadMode" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f >nul 2>&1
    Reg add "HKLM\TK_SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DeliveryOptimization" /v "DODownloadMode" /t REG_DWORD /d "63" /f >nul 2>&1

    What settings do I need to completely block Delivery Optimization, but for Windows updates to work?

    p.s
    I am using LTSC version!
     
  6. zero cool root

    zero cool root MDL Senior Member

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    Code:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\TK_SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DeliveryOptimization]
    "DODownloadMode"=dword:00000000
    
     
  7. ingviowarr

    ingviowarr MDL Senior Member

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    @MSMG

    If I understood your answer correctly and how things are connected, then I can imagine smth. like this after user selection:

    • Enable DISM Image Cleanup with Full ResetBase
    Code:
    Set how "Cleanup Source Images" works: whether /ResetBase switch will be used for WinSxS cleanup or not.
    
    Do you really want to switch DISM Image Cleanup to use Full ResetBase? | [Y]:Yes / [N]:No (recommended)
    
    WARNING:
    -----------------
    Starting from v1909 WinSxS files needs to be retained for installing updates in the future due to new update format.
    The Toolkit doesn't use the /ResetBase switch by default.
    (My English is not perfect, sorry)
     
  8. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #16750 Enthousiast, Oct 15, 2020
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2020
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  9. mhussain

    mhussain MDL Senior Member

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    @MSMG hi,
    would it be possible for you to add support to remove the Delivery Optimization component and sub components?
    the components that allow you to download windows updates via peer to peer file shareing?
    thanks,
    Majid
     
  10. Yanta

    Yanta MDL Senior Member

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    With the reinstall of Defender, there are two lists offered. Would just like to confirm which I should be using.

    @Ace2 do single entries on your list actually include multiple entries from the @MSMG list?

     
  11. Ace2

    Ace2 MDL Guru

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  12. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    yay, Dism really is a fundamental tool for all of us, although in my view a little slow i think ;):)
     
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  13. rorewe4314

    rorewe4314 MDL Member

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    MSMG,
    I still don’t understand if the components will recover after the update or not?
    Will you make any attempts to solve this problem?

    p.s
    I cannot have any guarantees that any other application will block more effectively than you!
     
  14. #16756 Deleted member 1385001, Oct 16, 2020
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    @admin : Please delete all my comments from MSMG thread.
     
  15. doubtfire

    doubtfire MDL Junior Member

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    I didn't see anything in the first post, so I'll ask:

    Does anyone have a list of all the safe-to-remove bloat that I can use to remove everything in batch? Right now I'm having to individually go from the main menu -> remove > windows components,etc > again and again

    But the software is able to read a text-file list (from somewhere...) and use that.
     
  16. coleoptere2007

    coleoptere2007 MDL Guru

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    @doubtfire try in a VM and you'll see by yourself :)
     
  17. Great_Gwyn

    Great_Gwyn MDL Novice

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    Sorry for being this ignorant, but...

    Why bother on removing things that will come back whenever you upgrade from WU?

    I'm still on v1809 for this matter.

    Thanks.