1. MIMMO61

    MIMMO61 MDL Senior Member

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    is it an essential procedure to clean the image?
    Or is it better to wait for Toolkit update?
    Thanks
     
  2. MSMG

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    Performing Image Cleanup will cleanup up the Windows Component Store (WinSxS folder) and removes/compresses superseded files there by reduces the size of the overall image.

    The MS needs to fix it the issue with CU, Tookit has nothing to do with it.

     
  3. Yanta

    Yanta MDL Senior Member

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  4. kompassorpigo

    kompassorpigo MDL Member

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    Divide and conquer. Try first 250 tweaks, if it works, try the other 250. If it doesn't, try 125 of the first 250 etc.
     
  5. Yanta

    Yanta MDL Senior Member

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    Yes, I know. The tweaks are services, registry and tasks. Could be a service, which is where I will start, but the problem comes when there are multiple tweaks causing issues. Finding the exact combination is what takes time.
     
  6. MIMMO61

    MIMMO61 MDL Senior Member

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    Good morning.
    In the meantime, an interim procedure had occurred to me.
    1- carry out the procedure with Toolkit.
    2- Install in administrative mode on a virtual machine.
    3- Check for corrupt files and correct them.
    4- perform SysPrep and ImageX procedure, using GImageX to capture WIm files and then create ISO.
    Could it go as an interim procedure?
    Thanks
     
  7. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    If it's just ghost error you can do it offline, no need to install and do a Sysprep.

    Perform Image Cleanup from Toolkit

    Run the SFC command offline

    Code:
    sfc /scannow /offbootdir=<Mount\Install\1> /offwindir=<Mount\Install\1\Windows>
    
     
  8. MIMMO61

    MIMMO61 MDL Senior Member

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    Thank you for your suggestion.
     
  9. MSMG

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    May be other tweaks applied might be breaking it, better do a fresh image

     
  10. Yanta

    Yanta MDL Senior Member

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    #17290 Yanta, Nov 8, 2020
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2020
    Indeed. Restored fresh non-defender edition, upgraded to version with Defender installed then applied all the same tweaks after. Works fine. I just can't install over an already tweaked system until I find out which tweak is killing it.

    I have also found that if Smartscreen is not installed I cannot change (turn off) the smartscreen settings in Defender. It is stuck on block. I don't want to block, I want to disable the features, so it looks like I have to have Smartscreen installed as well.
     
  11. MSMG

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    The Windows Security App is a common interface for all security related stuffs like SmartScreen ,Firewall, Parental Controls, etc.

    If you remove any of them then their function will be blocked in this App, it doesn't mean you need them to run the Defender, only the first Tab is the Defender settings.

     
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  13. Robotnik247

    Robotnik247 MDL Junior Member

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    is there any legit 19042.610 build out there atm or should we apply the update over .572?
     
  14. footnote_marmalade

    footnote_marmalade MDL Novice

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    Hi Folks,
    Just using MSMG on Win10 20H2 right now. I delete components 1 by 1 because of the bug.
    My understanding is that it is not recommended to clean up after that, will it reinstall every deleted components ?
    Can I use my ISO even if it is not cleaned up ?
     
  15. kosta26

    kosta26 MDL Junior Member

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    we do not recommend clearing the image. Updates won't come because the update is broken, the author knows. I did the tests.
    after removing the toolkit components, cumulative updates are not installed at all.
     
  16. Bokeron

    Bokeron MDL Novice

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    I've reached the point where I don't know what am I doing anymore.

    First, take this into account: I aim for a very slim install. I don't care about sfc, or updates at all. I remove A LOT of functionalities more once I end working with MSMG Toolkit and keep on working on the image with other tools.
    So, my first step is MSMG Toolkit. And I am lost.

    I start downloading an image from uupdump. Feature Update 19042.610.
    The updates are launched over the bare 19041.1 once the install is finished.
    As this inteferes with component removal, I try to integrate the updates into the wim image.

    First I tried manually using DISM and ended with two packages of every feature, one for the old and one for the new... and neither could be uninstalled. Cleanupt or resetbase did nothing.

    The I used MSMG Toolkit to integrate kb4577266, kb4579305 and kb4580364. It refused to install kb4562830 but I still went ahead to test it, applied changes and rebuilt image. DISM didn't showed double packages and those I wan't removed could be removed, I did resetbase... happiness at last... but... build version wasn't showing 19042.610 but 19041.610
    "This doesn't look like a good omen", I feared.
    I used MSMG Toolkit to install the package it refused before, kb4562830, but this time it installed it. Applied, rebuilt, went to DISM to check.
    Now version build is OK, 19042.610 ... but here they are again, double invincible packages that laugh at my efforts with disdain.

    So... what am I doing? Why is this happening? What SHOULD I be doing instead? Different image version? Different download origin? Go back to Windows Millenium?

    Can someone please explain how are all of these facts connected and enlighten me with the wisdom I lack to achieve the grace of installing a working Windows 10 version before my life ends?

    Thank you.
     
  17. sergey130270

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    Hello dear forum users! Sorry to be off-topic, help me find a tweak (reg file) that includes PhotoViewer for Windows 10.0.19042.610. Thanks.
     
  18. Tiger-1

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  19. miketunes

    miketunes MDL Novice

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    I see that file C:\msmg10.8\Bin\XMLs\w10_CustomStartMenuLayout.xml, where do I need copy it to so the 4 > 6 option will import it?