It's common sense dude, everything I've written about comes from internal sources who I have spoken to and asked questions with. You don't have to believe me, but considering not many people have actually seen Threshold or heard about any of its features from people inside the walls of Microsoft, I don't think anyone has a lot of leverage to claim I'm making up "bulls**t" No offense to anyone, but I've got to defend my website and persona. If I write about speculation, I damn well make sure I note the article as speculation. When I write about Threshold from my own sources, I never write about speculation, I write what's fact at the current time in the development process. That doesn't mean it won't change however, people need to remember this. I'll let you in on a little something that might ease the minds of people who hate me because I've written about certain things. When I write about an exclusive on Threshold or whatever, I make sure that the info I'm writing about has been confirmed by multiple other internal sources who aren't usually in contact with each other. That's the best way to make sure you're writing about legitimate things, when people who don't talk to each other tell you the exact same thing. Better yet, when they show you evidence, that's when it's a done deal. Like I said, you don't have to believe me, but I think I've made my point clear enough. Brad Sams may also chime in, but I think I've covered everything here. To the dude who claimed I'm making up "bulls**t". I'm not.
Yeah but those "Sources" could feed you bulls**t that they don't want to tell you and you wont even know about it. Not to mention you don't detail every single little build number change only the "Big Changes" so its pretty hard to be pin point accurate until sign off.
Well, if you had read what I said you would know that I only write about information that I have received from multiple sources who aren't in contact with each other. If two or more people are telling me similar things without being in contact with one-another, and then show me evidence to prove their points, then I'm sorry but that's legitimate information. Not to mention I actually know my sources, so there's that too. More so, I ask about the most noticeable changes, not the bug fixes. I prefer sticking to features on the surface of Windows.
The Software doesn't make the money its the CD-Key's and office subscriptions. Reason that Satya Nadella said himself that it wouldn't surprise him if the software gets leaked.
Well whats the rumor of the day today? if you got multiple sources let us know about today's updates.
Let me put my tinfoil hat on first. Windows phone got the best emojis. Anyone see h0x0d's recent tweets? Possible connection between Midori and Windows Phone! The possible connection is tantalizing.
Is WinBeta officially Microsoft designated website for information? I am on the motion that we speculate than accept any information online to be the very factual one all rather the right one without having any means of verifying it. The least I can do about such website is to take the leaks with a pinch of salt until the final release. I am not doubting their ability to have well detailed information but most times they are based on speculations and references.
Oh of course, we always add a disclaimer which says that everything written about the article is correct at that point in time, however things DO most definitely change, things are added and things are removed. You can't second guess these things, you just report as-is and see if it sticks, which a lot of it does, especially the big news. My point here is I don't write about crap. I actually write about real things that exist, whether those things change over the course of development, that's out of my hands.
Has this honestly ever happened? I have a hard time remembering when it has, at least with you and the other 4 reliable sources.
It happens ALL the time. It would be crazy if those things arent happening. Feature can be unfinished, dropped because of lack of sense/bad implementation/UI issues/foundation for future Windows versions etc. What a rubbish assumption, dear god...
It's happened in the past most definitely, sometimes small features and sometimes big. A great example feature is within Windows 8, remember that awesome littler user tile on the taskbar? A number of news outlets reported on that feature and it ended up being removed way before a public preview.
So I may assume that you yourself have the builds in your own hand or physical access to them, otherwise it wouldn't be true what you say...since you would rely on statements made by others. The problem is when having own builds you are tied to NDA. That means those who are able to post real info actually must not. We had the same problem with windows 7 / Vista. We had members who had real access to current builds...
True, Yen, like I said before, those who have builds, the deal is no web connection, and keep their f**king mouth shut, only exception (AFAIK) is Brad, but only limited to descriptions that he could see "with his eyeballs". ..... btw, guess you probably know who's that new guy "location: Japan"? (edit: I don't know, don't ask me.)
I am sorry that I have to jump in at this point in time. I am not doing that to disagree with you in any way. My idea on this very issue, regarding Windows 9 being security tightened against leaks, is that there is no forthright information available at the moment than speculations. Even those within the comfort of the walls of Redmond cannot provide any information that would jeopardize their employment. That for me is doing something for their own safety, after seeing what happened to French Alex Kibkalo in the past. If we are to go with your view on the user tiles on the Taskbar (I can't remember any though)in Windows 8 and are purported to have been removed by Microsoft. Of what benefit to Windows if most of those things reported online are removed? Like the Start menu, removing the Charm bar, bringing in Cortana to Windows 9,etc which are vastly reported on online. That means there would be nothing left for Windows 9 to add to make a difference.
You didn't get what he was trying to say, he didn't say that MS removed the taskbar user tile just because every tech news website reported about it. What he was saying was that every tech site posts about the upcoming features & stuffs that the current Windows Vnext builds have at that point of time, sometimes those features gets removed...sometimes they do make it in the final version of Windows. That's why he said "Oh of course, we always add a disclaimer which says that everything written about the article is correct at that point in time, however things DO most definitely change" And taskbar user tile was indeed present in Windows 8 builds before the developer preview...here's a screenshot:- If you know about the development of Windows Vista, you would see that a whole lot of features & designs were removed from it before it was released. There are several reasons behind removal of features in pre-release versions of Windows(stability issues,poor design choice,etc.) Just relax, MS is not going to remove Cortana or the new Start Menu just because tech news websites reported about it Oh & Alex Kibkalo is not French & he did not get in trouble for leaking pre-release Windows
Speaking of this user tile: I guess this was removed because it was just kind of a "placeholder feature", a little thing that fills the gap until the real implementation (that might depend on some other feature) is ready. In this case, this other feature may have been the Start screen. Now this thingy on the taskbar allowed them to test the functionality of the user tile without a working Start screen (and Charms). Because, with all the Metro stuff in the works, I doubt that they really made this to stay on the Desktop. Or remember that little Charms menu that replaced the old Start menu in the Developer Preview? Just another placeholder until the real thing, the Charms edge UI, was ready (or they didn't have a clue for a solution yet).
I'm tired of continuing to explain myself. If it wasn't clear enough, my sources know about Windows, they work with it and around it. Microsoft has many employees spanning across different things in the Windows branch. That is all.
Okay. You also misunderstood my post a little. I never said he meant the user tiles were removed in the actual sense of it. I even used the word 'IF' that precludes the conditional clause that follows to detail my view on that very notion. That's a reply along the line of my explanation and it didn't mean anything more than that looking at what we were speculating on. I never said Microsoft was going to remove Cortana though. That was a reference to support my opinion on that very part of my statement and it didn't mean I have no ample information regarding Windows as well. Well, I thought Alex Kibkalo was a French national. However, I would be very much interested to know about his nationality. Above all, I share his views as well as others who are posting on this particular thread.