[Question]Force Stop Vs Hibernate Vs Disable Package

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  1. NST_Adventure

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    Hi just straight to the point
    What's the difference?
    Among force stops, hibernation and disable package which is better for Android?

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    #2 Yen, Jun 13, 2020
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    You mean how to debloat sys apps best without root?

    Hibernate?!?

    -Force stop means you stop the app from being running. It returns after reboot.

    -Disable app. It stops running and persists stopping after reboot. It vanishes from the app launcher, but is still listed at any firewall being present. It is also listed at 'disabled apps'.

    -Unistall app from current user 0. It vanishes from app laucher and is not available for current user 0 anymore. It also vanishes from any firewall to be chosen. It also vanishes from the app list completely.

    I uninstalled stock dolby atmos app using uninstall command from adb and then I installed one from another device (a better one). It works well.

    All the methods do not really remove sys apps from the device, though.

    'Best' method without root is uninstall app from current user.
    Code:
    adb shell
    pm uninstall --user 0 <package_name>
    reinstall
    Code:
    adb shell
    cmd package install-existing <package_name>
    replace <package_name> with any app you want.

    Be careful there is some misinformation out there.
    Disable is NOT uninstall.
    When uninstalled from user it is really uninstalled and not only disabled.

    And no, no need for factory reset to get package back.
     
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    #3 NST_Adventure, Jun 13, 2020
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    @Yen
    It's From Greenify By Oasis Feng :)

    And What's the difference with force stops?
    Is it just a different mention, but the ends are the same?

    #GoogleTranslate

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    #5 NST_Adventure, Jun 15, 2020
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  6. NST_Adventure

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    Hah?and Then where did the missing application go? (If Not Deleted)

    :eek::worthy::wacko:

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    #7 Yen, Jun 15, 2020
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    They are either just disabled or not installed for current user 0. The latter does not list them anymore as being 'present' at app lists. The former still lists them as 'disabled'.
    Both methods work at non-rooted devices. They are not 'deleted', though.

    If rooted:
    Magisk templates can prevent from mapping them at current system (when listed at REPLACE section). Android does not 'notice' them at all. The clue at those modules is that the original system is ever left untouched to avoid breaking signatures of the sys partition.
    All these efforts are made that apps (safetynet) cannot detect modifications of the original system. (also DM-verity).

    Using that it actually means (you can say that) they have been deleted.
    They have been deleted = replaced by 'nothing', correctly spoken.

    Here config.sh of a Magisk module
    Code:
    # Construct your own list here, it will override the example above
    # !DO NOT! remove this if you don't need to replace anything, leave it empty as it is now
    REPLACE="
    
    "
    List here all apps with correct path you really want to have removed/deleted from system

    For instance:
    Code:
    REPLACE="
    /system/priv-app/SoundAlive_52
    /system/priv-app/Hearingdro_V52_N
    "

    Those two apps I had removed from my old Galaxy S6 in order to get viper4android working correctly.
     
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    @Yen
    is there a module to turn off the android application?(Disable)
    Instead of having to download third party applications?

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    #9 Yen, Jun 16, 2020
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    Yea the problem is if you use setting to disable apps they will ask you to remove data first without it is not possible to disable apps use setting :-(


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    #11 NST_Adventure, Jun 18, 2020
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  13. NST_Adventure

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    Nope no matter how many time tries
    It will never work!
    Screencam still ask for magisk module!

    Oh come on....... OMG( ・ั﹏・ั)

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    yes you are permanently turn off the application It's different from me, who needs an application at any time

    Why disable?you can hibernate(using greenify)or force stop!

    Is the Google service can be treated like that? If I force stop or hibernate, it will automatically waste a battery

    EDIT:
    Oh And Also......... You know what happenned when you delete google play service data right?
    (◠‿◕)
    Goal is simple because you can't treat google play service like that i better disable them
    After all, the end also rarely needs but STILL NEEDS it sometime (when i need to open play store etc etc which it's rarely needed seriously)

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    You are funny. :)
    You are jumping from one matter to another without really caring for one.
    Maybe think about first how your handset should be, only then realize your ideas one by one.

    I have posted if ScreenCam Screen Recorder does not work install the magisk module of it.

     
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    @Yen well you right but after instal magisk module screencam still asking for module

    I confused why they still ask magisk module?i already install them

    ...........

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    #17 Yen, Jun 20, 2020
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    @Yen sorry if i make you busy with my question

    How to Change the download application to a system application?and without root access?(maybe is possible with ADB or cmd or something like that?)

    Thank You!


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