Remove Telemetry and Windows 10 Related Updates from Windows 7

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Skaendo, Aug 22, 2015.

  1. muu

    muu MDL Novice

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    I just installed fresh Windows 7 Professional from DigitalRiver iso. Then did full Windows Update.

    Run all the lines in OP post but only finds 1 update was installed: KB 3075851

    Does this seem correct? All others say "update not installed on this computer"
     
  2. sapito

    sapito MDL Junior Member

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    No need to run this tool again. Just avoid the "other" updates, hide them and you're fine.
     
  3. manix

    manix MDL Junior Member

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    Here is a problem: I noticed that all of the updates I've hidden are no longer hidden and I've not ran any software that does that.
     
  4. asache

    asache MDL Member

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    I dont think uninstalling those updates helps with something.
    I installed untouched november 2014 Windows 8.1 image with no updates and i found this:
    ht*p://i.imgur.com/DPNPHTQ.png
     
  5. yro

    yro MDL Addicted

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    just clicked on the crap remove everything stuff button.. whatahell? how can I roll back all the changes made by this f$cking tool?
     
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  6. marzametal

    marzametal MDL Novice

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    Don't bother hax0ring dnsapi.dll, replacing the URLs with zero's. It doesn't stop callouts. I have had both dll files modified for a day, and Wireshark is still showing callouts. Mind you, this install of Windows has yet to perform a single update, not even the update for Windows Update; not one!
     
  7. Yen

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    @asache, yro...What are you guys talking about?!

    P.S.: I can confirm. M$ unhides updates...
     
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  8. marzametal

    marzametal MDL Novice

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    #69 marzametal, Sep 8, 2015
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    There is also a command in dnsapi.dll that tells it to bypass the hosts file. Which is why I went for Net Ranges in one single W7FwAS rule, and will use PeerBlock to provide me with info on which IPs I need to unblock to load up certain MS sites...

    ...and now my Wireshark capture is MS free, so there is no real need to use Acrylic or even DNSCrypt (unless you aren't on a VPN).
     
  9. denzel

    denzel MDL Member

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    Can you post here the complete ip list to block with fw? Thank you
     
  10. marzametal

    marzametal MDL Novice

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    #71 marzametal, Sep 8, 2015
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    So far from what I have seen, only the dns.msftncsi.com reference pops up, but that is normal.
    Code:
    23.96.0.0-23.103.255.255,64.4.0.0-64.4.63.255,65.52.0.0-65.55.255.255,94.245.64.0-94.245.127.255,111.221.29.0-111.221.29.255,111.221.64.0-111.221.127.255,131.107.0.0-131.107.255.255,131.253.12.0-131.253.18.255,131.253.21.0-131.253.47.255,131.253.61.0-131.253.255.255,134.170.0.0-134.170.255.255,137.116.0.0-137.117.255.255,157.54.0.0-157.60.255.255,168.61.0.0-168.63.255.255,191.232.0.0-191.239.255.255,193.221.113.0-193.221.113.255,204.79.195.0-204.79.197.255,207.46.0.0-207.46.255.255,207.68.128.0-207.68.191.255,208.76.44.0-208.76.47.255,208.84.0.0-208.84.7.255
    I dumped the above into an outbound block rule, location (all 3 - domain, private, public), any protocol, any port, any local address, remote address (insert code snippet), any service, any interface.

    For those who make use of IPv6, I came across the following IPv6 addresses when checking host/domain names in NirSoft tools:
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    2620:0:30::53,2620:0:32::53,2620:0:34::53,2620:0:37::53,2a01:111:f303:1791::b01,2a01:111:200b:2::bcc1,2a01:111:f335:1792::a01,2001:502:4612::c4,2610:a1:1014::c4,2610:a1:1015::c4,2001:502:f3ff::c4,2606:2800:10c:249:f81:1c8d:1178:1364,2a01:111:2005:5::5,2a01:111:2006:c::5,2a01:111:2020:3::5,2a01:111:2032:1::5,fd3e:4f5a:5b81::1,2600:1413:1::6011:4810,2a01:111:f004:b0::102,2a03:2880:2130:cf04:face:b00c:0:1,2a01:111:f004:20::102,2a01:111:f004:20::101,2a01:111:f004:b0::101,2600:1417:3f:28c::aa4,2600:1417:3f:28a::aa4,2a01:111:f30e:1790::f001:dcc1
    Here is some proof that I didn't just come up willy nilly with the ranges. Lucky I had beer, or else I would've gone Ice Cube on my street... just a text file showing host/domain names along with corresponding ranges. I filled more in as NirSoft apps spat more out.

    View attachment proof.txt
     
  11. asache

    asache MDL Member

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    Saying that telemetry is not activated by those updates.
     
  12. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    SQM = CEIP = customer experience improvement program
    it's there since Vista

    you can turn it off:
    Action Center > Change Action Center Settings > customer experience improvement program settings

    btw, november 2014 image already contain a version of kb2976978
     
  13. roga

    roga MDL Member

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    All this step is no use, the code is close source, even after all this tweaking there could be hidden code to steal your data. You can never be certain. All it takes is 1 window of opportunity for your windows to dump your junk to Microsoft, to track you for life. The only safe solution is move to linux.
     
  14. Rootz

    Rootz MDL Novice

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    #75 Rootz, Sep 8, 2015
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    YEP...It´s true! Micro$oft restore all updates

    YEP its true.
    Micro$oft restore all updates i´d just uninstall... :mad:

    Code:
    wusa /uninstall /kb:2952664 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:2976978 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:2977759 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:2990214 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3021917 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3022345 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3035583 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3044374 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3050265 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3065987 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3068708 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3072318 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3075249 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3075851 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3075853 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3080149 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3083324 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:3083325 /quiet /norestart
    wusa /uninstall /kb:971033 /quiet /norestart
    
    PROOF
    h**p://imgbox.com/WzlYn40s
     
  15. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    You set WU as automatic, and expect it not to restore/reinstall auto-updates? :g:
     
  16. Rootz

    Rootz MDL Novice

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    Restore after hide!
     
  17. HpBaxxter

    HpBaxxter MDL Member

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    how about Windows 8.1 ??
     
  18. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    Uninstalling any of WU client updates (3083324, 3075851, 3050265, 2990214) wipe WU database along with any hidden updates

    do not set WU as auto then complain
    because it will install future WU clients, then you uninstall it and the database is wiped again, then you complain the hidden updates are auto-installed
    and so on....
     
  19. Uky

    Uky MDL Novice

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    Or get yourself a hardware based external firewall where the addresses to Micro$oft can be blocked.