Save activation file for use later in fresh installs

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  1. MS_User

    MS_User MDL Guru

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    that to:)
     
  2. d5aqoëp

    d5aqoëp MDL Addicted

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    True. I was so looking forward to generating new hwid on new hardware. The warm fuzzy feeling of doing that is real. But as usual, MS has to botch everything.
     
  3. anansay

    anansay MDL Member

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    I have used the Search function to look for how to generate new hwid and was unable to find it.

    Can someone point me in the right direction please?
     
  4. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Use google, search for massgravel
     
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  5. Yen

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    #25 Yen, Aug 28, 2020
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    The SMBIOS' purpose IS to provide numerous tables of data describing a computer's configuration. (Even the clock speeds).

    Some of those tables have changed for sure. It already changes if the BIOS version changes on updates.
    I guess the activation system parses them even to get infos about hardware changes at all...

    So it seems the SMBIOS tables only play their role here by providing the data. The activation system then 'decides' what is still 'the same' and what not.

    The point you mean about the SMBIOS is (I assume) the SMBIOS GUID, but that should have changed by the mobo replacement.
    Code:
    wmic path win32_computersystemproduct get uuid
    That's why it is surprising (for me) that it still activated. The mobo is a new brand. The new CPU has got another CPUID. The SMBIOS GUID is different.

    I agree with your conclusion, though. The storage SNs and the NIC are most important, ....but the SMBIOS GUID seemingly not and that's the surprise. (It only has to be non-zero)

    ....perhaps to keep the NIC alone would be sufficient?!? :)
     
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  6. BAU

    BAU MDL Expert

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    Was this not common knowledge?
    MOBO fingerprint's importance has been downgraded with the introduction of microsoft account backed activation.
    Microsoft are very happy with trading illusory loss of license renew revenue with certain user data expansion beyond the scope of a single machine.
    That and the fact that Intel has been pushing for it to help their own business model (new series - new socket haHa).
    And last, but not least, software spoofers become popular in online gaming cheating communities.

    So indeed, a dedicated expansion card (like optane memory, network accelerator or a nvme ssd) weights more in the HWID check.
    Not in y2k anymore, microsoft does partial fingerprint matching, and will update and re-weight just sections of it if tastier hardware was added.

    As for hwid-g3n-lol-censured, you bet microsoft tracks ip's and timestamps requests - do it just once, don't activate multiple editions in a single run as it's supposed to be an upgrade..
     
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  8. MDLLuke

    MDLLuke MDL Novice

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    Hi good day OP

    May I know have you eventually found the solution to it?
     
  9. MDLLuke

    MDLLuke MDL Novice

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    Hi there, good day!

    I learnt that massgravel is open source on github, it is for us to activate a windows installation by using
    i) digital license (= also known to be HWID way)
    OR
    ii) KMS38 (non HWID way, can be done offline).

    So my question is,
    Say I am already using a computer that came with OEM windows 10 home (activated with a digital license)
    and I wish to change the HWID,
    how do I do it?

    I am not sure if Massgravel is the answer or not...
    (I am guessing massgravel is only for activating a un-activated windows, which is not my case here...)
     
  10. CaptainKirk1966

    CaptainKirk1966 Former MDL Guru

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    Upgrade from Win 10 home to pro, education. enterprise by changing the key, then activate with massgravel
     
  11. (\_/)^(\_/)

    (\_/)^(\_/) MDL Member

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    Do you want to upgrade your OS from home to other SkU ie Pro or Ent.
    Yes its possible.
     
  12. MDLLuke

    MDLLuke MDL Novice

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    Thanks @CaptainKirk1966 @mdl052020

    To answer you both:
    1) I don't mind to change/upgrade my current Windows 10 Home, provided there is no cons in doing so (an upgrade would have no cons... I suppose?)

    2) By doing so, do I "lose" the original OEM license? or it is just an upgrade, hence license remained, but with NEW HWID?

    3) Is "upgrading" the windows version, the only method to change/generate new HWID?

    Thanks so much!
     
  13. urie

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    you will not lose your original oem hwid that is key is embedded in your hardware if you go to install windows 10 again it will get your key from your hardware and install windows 10 home unless you use pid.key txt file or or use ei.cfg
     
  14. MDLLuke

    MDLLuke MDL Novice

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    You are saying, if I just reformat my pc and reinstall windows 10 Home, it will get automatically reactivated right?
    But it will be activated with the same HWID, since it is still the same old hardware..?
     
  15. alexxf

    alexxf MDL Addicted

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    Only for Windows 10.
     
  16. MDLLuke

    MDLLuke MDL Novice

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    If HWID is something only traceable by Microsoft,
    how does a non-Microsoft software track a PC? Do they do it through other IDs?
    I only know MAC ID...