Simplix Pack to update Live Win7 System/ Integrate hotfixes into Win7 distribution

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  1. elias001

    elias001 MDL Novice

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    #4001 elias001, Aug 14, 2021
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    With the 21.08.11 update pack, the resulting ISO does not fit a DVD-R any more for me...

    Sadly, I did not keep an older update pack that allowed it to fit (especially one that would allow to *not* update IE and add hyphenations and dictionaries !)...

    Is it possible to download old update packs, please ?
     
  2. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    The size should be approximately the same as with the previous pack, only the monthly rollup is replaced by the new one.

    Else use the MDL SiMPLiX AiO ISO creation tool with install.esd option.
     
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  3. elias001

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    The fit was tight already in the past (with about only 100 KB left free on the DVD-R, when I last made one, back in mid 2018 or so), but with the new update pack (and the fact that it, sadly, includes stuff no one needs: IE11 is *dead* and won't display modern web sites, so why updating it ???), I lack 100 KB or so to make everything fit on the disk...

    Sadly, it fails to include the drivers I need (bad signature error, while the good old UP7Integrator script got no trouble with them), so the resulting disk, while indeed smaller in size and fitting a DVD-R, is not recognized on the computer I'm trying to install it onto...

    I however found an old backup I made some time ago, with UpdatePack7R2-20.2.21.exe on it, and it does produce an ISO image that fits (just barely as well, by a few dozens of KB).

    Problem solved (for me, and for now), but I still think the Simplix pack should allow disabling all the extra stuff (IE11 and other tools that are not part of a genuine Win7 installation)...
     
  4. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    IE(11) is not a browser only, it's part of the core of windows.

    You can use the Modern version of my SiMPLiX AiO ISO creation tool with install.esd, or you also can use the split wim option from the Legacy version and span all over 2 separate ISOs/DVDs, or use DVD9.
     
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    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Updated the OP, post 2 and post 3 of the MDL SiMPLiX AiO ISO creation tool with SiMPLiX_AiO_ISO_Full_Tool_2_7_21.8.11.zip

    Changelog:
    Code:
    2.7.21.8.11
    Fixed lines 324 and 325 in "W7_x64_AiO_TEST_2.5b.cmd" now called "W7_x64_AiO_2.7_Modern.cmd"
    Fixed the calling of the updatepack faillure
    Removed the Beta state from the scripts
    Modified the script cmd filenames to contain:
    
    Modern = Win 10 based ISO (wim or esd)
    Legacy = Win 7 based ISO (wim or swm)
    
    Fixed the duplicate SiMPLiXED in the ISO filename
    
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...-aio-iso-with-install-wim-esd-creation.79421/

    Updated the bare tool to SiMPLiX_AiO_ISO_Bare_Tool_2_7_21.8.11.zip

    Updated the separate addons package SiMPLiX_AiO_ISO_Tool_Addons_2_7_21.8.11.zip

    Updated the separate scripts only SiMPLiX_AiO_ISO_Tool_2_7_21.8.11_Scripts.zip
     
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  6. i510thGenJohn

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    #4006 i510thGenJohn, Aug 22, 2021
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    Hi. I am a newbie here and have a question which I hope is not inappropriate. Its regards this thread and others like it where the thread pages are from 40 to 201 pages in length. I read every post in the Windows Updater thread (40 pages) and it took me over 4 hours, because I took notes and made links and downloaded items from poster's links.

    So my question is: On long threads, is it OK to ask questions about things that might have been covered somewhere in, say, 201 pages of posts?

    Search is sometimes useful, but I always try to use other resources before asking something that might get me a warning or a scathing reply.

    As I read the Windows Updater thread, I came across several times when someone had asked something that had already been covered a week, month or year prior.

    If one reads every thread, it is amazing how much one can learn and obtain juicy tidbits of information to document and file away, but reading every thread takes dedication and uninterrupted focus.

    Thank you
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    Also, a question I have about this thread OP:

    If the Simplix Pack contains all updates for Windows 7, since Windows 7 first released, and up to last day of support of Windows 7 (sans telemetry and tracking); then why are there different versions of this Simplix Pack being made available?

    Thank you

    P.S. As I do not yet have 5 posts, and do not wish to spam in order to make a request, may I please request that Each Category of the Forum Main Page have a Sticky Thread containing an updated downloads page for any post that has a link to a download, so one doesn't have to spend a lot of time searching for something they may not even know how to describe or have the knowledge for proper key words? Perhaps users who post links to downloads could be asked to maintain their links in these Download pages.

    There are a lot of good things to download, but revisions and updates are scattered across many pages and over weeks, months and years. If all downloads for MDL could be in one location (Item to download, Latest Revision, Link to OP), it would save member's time.

    Thank you
     
  7. shhnedo

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    An unofficial updates pack made by an IT enthusiast cannot possibly contain updates which microsoft themselves haven't released yet...
    Simplix UpdatePack is updated every month, because microsoft releases new updates every month. So, this UpdatePack contains all NECESSARY updates(yes, with the telemetry they may include) as per the current Patch Tuesday(the 2nd Tuesday of every month, when microsoft release their monthly updates). Any out-of-band updates(emergency hotfixes after Patch Tuesday) released by microsoft later in the month may or may not be included in this UpdatePack, seeing as one can't really demand regular updates from this tool's author.
    Also, as you can read in the changelog of every UpdatePack version, telemetry is disabled(via registry tweaks).
     
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  8. i510thGenJohn

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    So M$ is performing the updates and patches, and an IT enthusiast is combing over their releases and creating a customized update pack for user's safety and convenience. I understand that part perfectly (or correct me if I err), but here is what I do not understand:

    This Simplix Pack is Windows 7 specific, and Windows is no longer supported by M$ (and also soon to be motherboard manufacturers it seems - i.e. CRM in BIOS), yes?

    If this is so with M$, then what specific purpose creates the need or desire to use this Simplix Pack to update a Windows 7 architecture in 2021?

    What, besides modern motherboards and software will this do to improve the original Windows 7 architecture, in 2021 and beyond?

    What I mean is, I have been using Windows 7 (I prefer Ultimate 64) since it came out and have never updated from M$, and have never had a problem with its function.

    The only challenge I face now (me being stubborn) is keeping my Windows 7 and being able to install it on the newer desktop PC motherboards coming out; e.g. i5 10400 asustek and such, that still have the CRM function in the BIOS.

    Forgive my wall of text and ignorance. I am not resisting this, or arguing its existence. I would simply like to understand from this product what its exact purpose and function is, and what a user might expect if they choose not to use it. I may just want to install it is the reason makes sense for my personal use, or it being a necessity.

    This analogy might help in my abnormal way of thinking: I view Windows 7 architecture and its versions like a line of classic muscle cars (Make/Model) with all the OEM and NOS parts added to each vehicle respectively. With that in mind, why would adding modern updates to a classic car item be required other than to make a CustoMod Classic Car?

    As long as the car functions, then some like Original, numbers matching cars, and others like to mod the car, but still keep the "look".

    Thank you for your patience and understanding, and thank you to the tireless IT enthusiasts who make this all possible.

    (Edit: I mean to say CSM; not CRM. Sorry)
     
  9. shhnedo

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  10. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    There are still many win 7 capable systems and users out there.

    Having CSM onboard doesn't always mean it will be available out of the box, recently i build a modern system with CSM onboard but greyed out because of the onboard iGPU (10th gen i3) not being compatible, for CSM enabling a supported external vga card was needed.

    When a system doesn't have LegacyBIOS/CSM options onboard it's best to install a modern OS and enjoy it's benefits.

    Simplix update pack:
    - is monthly updated, including the ESU phase updates.
    - circumvents CPU check.
    - disables telemetry.
     
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    shhnnedo, thank you for that.

    This is all I need to know.

    Again, thank your being concise and to the point. I really appreciate that.
     
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    #4012 i510thGenJohn, Aug 22, 2021
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    What is a "win 7" capable system in this modern age? What was a Hemi Challenger before Jimmy Carter? I sense you are implying modded win 7 systems to be able to be grafted in to newer motherboards. I recall you saying that you installed a win 7 on a non CSM motherboard. I may be incorrect, but it was someone who said that they did that.

    It almost makes me weary, to consider that "change" is fraught with sacrifice, and that sacrifice being that which is/was well-intentioned, yet being attacked in an all-out affront.

    Nevertheless, your views challenge me to really think about what is coming, and what a lot of people may have to simply let go of, or entirely abandon using computers as a means to waste away their waking time. *chuckle*

    Enthousiast, I value your input.

    Thank you from my heart

    Cheers, mate!
     
  13. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Replying inside a quote is not workable, i snipped it out:
    "What is a "win 7" capable system in this modern age?" all still officially supported (legacy) hardware?

    "I recall you saying that you installed a win 7 on a non CSM motherboard. I may be incorrect, but it was someone who said that they did that." Iirc, later i corrected myself, the hardware reset itself to be compatible with the install, it enabled csm.

    "It almost makes me weary, to consider that "change" is fraught with sacrifice, and that sacrifice being that which is/was well-intentioned, yet being attacked in an all-out affront." I have no clue what this is about, win 7 was the best in his era, developments moved on (for whatever reason, i can't care).

    "Nevertheless, your views challenge me to really think about what is coming, and what a lot of people may have to simply let go of, or entirely abandon using computers as a means to waste away their waking time. *chuckle*" My views? your answers just make me worry that a certain multiple times banned member is back, just saying i am at that deja vu feeling again, let's hope i am wrong;)
     
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  14. jiafei2427

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    I don't know why the online update fails and always rolls back
     
  15. shhnedo

    shhnedo MDL Expert

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    Going off of this post, the easiest solution for you would be to offline update an image and perform a clean install. :)
     
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    I mean the follow up online update (UPDATEPACK7R2 already installed)
     
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    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    That's what I'm saying. Thank you.!
    Your integration tool is very good. I used it to build three systems. However, the script for the new hardware does not support updates.I want to know the specific reason,for the purpose of learning .Thank you again for your answer.
     
  19. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    It supports simplix updatepacks as intended:
     
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    #4020 jiafei2427, Aug 24, 2021
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