Simplix Pack to update Live Win7 System/ Integrate hotfixes into Win7 distribution

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  1. shhnedo

    shhnedo MDL Guru

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    An unofficial updates pack made by an IT enthusiast cannot possibly contain updates which microsoft themselves haven't released yet...
    Simplix UpdatePack is updated every month, because microsoft releases new updates every month. So, this UpdatePack contains all NECESSARY updates(yes, with the telemetry they may include) as per the current Patch Tuesday(the 2nd Tuesday of every month, when microsoft release their monthly updates). Any out-of-band updates(emergency hotfixes after Patch Tuesday) released by microsoft later in the month may or may not be included in this UpdatePack, seeing as one can't really demand regular updates from this tool's author.
    Also, as you can read in the changelog of every UpdatePack version, telemetry is disabled(via registry tweaks).
     
  2. i510thGenJohn

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    So M$ is performing the updates and patches, and an IT enthusiast is combing over their releases and creating a customized update pack for user's safety and convenience. I understand that part perfectly (or correct me if I err), but here is what I do not understand:

    This Simplix Pack is Windows 7 specific, and Windows is no longer supported by M$ (and also soon to be motherboard manufacturers it seems - i.e. CRM in BIOS), yes?

    If this is so with M$, then what specific purpose creates the need or desire to use this Simplix Pack to update a Windows 7 architecture in 2021?

    What, besides modern motherboards and software will this do to improve the original Windows 7 architecture, in 2021 and beyond?

    What I mean is, I have been using Windows 7 (I prefer Ultimate 64) since it came out and have never updated from M$, and have never had a problem with its function.

    The only challenge I face now (me being stubborn) is keeping my Windows 7 and being able to install it on the newer desktop PC motherboards coming out; e.g. i5 10400 asustek and such, that still have the CRM function in the BIOS.

    Forgive my wall of text and ignorance. I am not resisting this, or arguing its existence. I would simply like to understand from this product what its exact purpose and function is, and what a user might expect if they choose not to use it. I may just want to install it is the reason makes sense for my personal use, or it being a necessity.

    This analogy might help in my abnormal way of thinking: I view Windows 7 architecture and its versions like a line of classic muscle cars (Make/Model) with all the OEM and NOS parts added to each vehicle respectively. With that in mind, why would adding modern updates to a classic car item be required other than to make a CustoMod Classic Car?

    As long as the car functions, then some like Original, numbers matching cars, and others like to mod the car, but still keep the "look".

    Thank you for your patience and understanding, and thank you to the tireless IT enthusiasts who make this all possible.

    (Edit: I mean to say CSM; not CRM. Sorry)
     
  3. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    There are still many win 7 capable systems and users out there.

    Having CSM onboard doesn't always mean it will be available out of the box, recently i build a modern system with CSM onboard but greyed out because of the onboard iGPU (10th gen i3) not being compatible, for CSM enabling a supported external vga card was needed.

    When a system doesn't have LegacyBIOS/CSM options onboard it's best to install a modern OS and enjoy it's benefits.

    Simplix update pack:
    - is monthly updated, including the ESU phase updates.
    - circumvents CPU check.
    - disables telemetry.
     
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  4. i510thGenJohn

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    shhnnedo, thank you for that.

    This is all I need to know.

    Again, thank your being concise and to the point. I really appreciate that.
     
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    #4006 i510thGenJohn, Aug 22, 2021
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    What is a "win 7" capable system in this modern age? What was a Hemi Challenger before Jimmy Carter? I sense you are implying modded win 7 systems to be able to be grafted in to newer motherboards. I recall you saying that you installed a win 7 on a non CSM motherboard. I may be incorrect, but it was someone who said that they did that.

    It almost makes me weary, to consider that "change" is fraught with sacrifice, and that sacrifice being that which is/was well-intentioned, yet being attacked in an all-out affront.

    Nevertheless, your views challenge me to really think about what is coming, and what a lot of people may have to simply let go of, or entirely abandon using computers as a means to waste away their waking time. *chuckle*

    Enthousiast, I value your input.

    Thank you from my heart

    Cheers, mate!
     
  6. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Replying inside a quote is not workable, i snipped it out:
    "What is a "win 7" capable system in this modern age?" all still officially supported (legacy) hardware?

    "I recall you saying that you installed a win 7 on a non CSM motherboard. I may be incorrect, but it was someone who said that they did that." Iirc, later i corrected myself, the hardware reset itself to be compatible with the install, it enabled csm.

    "It almost makes me weary, to consider that "change" is fraught with sacrifice, and that sacrifice being that which is/was well-intentioned, yet being attacked in an all-out affront." I have no clue what this is about, win 7 was the best in his era, developments moved on (for whatever reason, i can't care).

    "Nevertheless, your views challenge me to really think about what is coming, and what a lot of people may have to simply let go of, or entirely abandon using computers as a means to waste away their waking time. *chuckle*" My views? your answers just make me worry that a certain multiple times banned member is back, just saying i am at that deja vu feeling again, let's hope i am wrong;)
     
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  7. jiafei2427

    jiafei2427 MDL Senior Member

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    I don't know why the online update fails and always rolls back
     
  8. shhnedo

    shhnedo MDL Guru

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    Going off of this post, the easiest solution for you would be to offline update an image and perform a clean install. :)
     
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    jiafei2427 MDL Senior Member

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    I mean the follow up online update (UPDATEPACK7R2 already installed)
     
  10. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  11. jiafei2427

    jiafei2427 MDL Senior Member

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    That's what I'm saying. Thank you.!
    Your integration tool is very good. I used it to build three systems. However, the script for the new hardware does not support updates.I want to know the specific reason,for the purpose of learning .Thank you again for your answer.
     
  12. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    It supports simplix updatepacks as intended:
     
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  14. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    That's not the updatepack itself, that's about my ISO Creation tool and that line means the Modern AiO ISO can't be used for upgrades, meaning all manual setup files are removed.

    The Legacy ISO can be used for (inplace/repair) upgrading:
    All installs can be updated after install by
     
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  15. jiafei2427

    jiafei2427 MDL Senior Member

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    Thank you very much for your answer!
     
  16. i510thGenJohn

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    #4017 i510thGenJohn, Aug 25, 2021
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    Nope. Not me. All good here, whatever you wish to think.

    Thank your for your views and thoughts. I appreciate that.
     
  17. i510thGenJohn

    i510thGenJohn MDL Novice

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    Two (2) questions about the Update Packs:

    1) Does each new edition include all former updates, or does one have to collect all editions and incrementally install them from earliest to latest?

    1) Is there a dedicated "Official Simplix Pack Download Page" link, where all these versions are located for download, instead of sorting through many pages and/or threads and even other websites (i.e. 7forums)? A Google search simply throws more confusion into getting the latest information without hours of looking and still having doubt, as well as possible getting a fake download with bad stuff in it.

    Thank you.
     
  18. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Yes, latest includes all previous stuff (since Jan 17. 2021 only the rollups are renewed monthly).
    I maintain the OP, it's uptodate.
     
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  19. i510thGenJohn

    i510thGenJohn MDL Novice

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    Thank you.

    Is the simplix pack file latest .exe file something I can simply double click, and it does all the installation automatically?

    I have a fresh install of Win7 Ultimate x64 sitting next to me (another desktop) with a fresh installed desktop, waiting for me to do something with it.

    I am hesitant to start installing drivers and do what I normally did before, but if the Simplix Pack is a "double-Click" fully automatic installer, then I'll give it a shot after making a backup of the fresh install with Acronis.

    I really do apologize about my questions if they come across as this, that or the other, but hope your fine tool is a "double-clicker".

    I am looking for a simply tutorial for really simple-minded noobs like me, as I type this.

    Thanks, Enthousiast.

    PS: can you recommend a thread here for step by step installs in order after installing a fresh Windows 7 OS; i.e. driver order, .NET and MS C++ items in logical order? All I know is that chipset drivers should be one of the first things that get installed, but now this Simplix Update Pack has me wondering if this should be installed before Chipset drivers and subsequent drivers. Sorry for all the questions, but your kindness in responding is like a saint with a cup of water to a thirsty man.