Sure it's restricting me all the time. I don't know what should be non-English to get use of practices which have the goal to cultivate awareness on that what is happening now to evaluate if the common wake state is still a dream....nothing else eastern meditations are made for...and the reply was made for R29k . You've started the Spanish-German bit.
Zorry, ich bin here incognito, on z mishon from Got, no more time for pointless debate, must fluegen zum bet, ya...
Say good night to your fellow prisoners in Plato's cave. Never said that to 'debate' will unveil shadows and bring you to outside and the light, you have to 'go' yourself. To debate about effects of practical exercises is pointless when not doing them, in English or not. Sweet dreams, oops it's daytime already....nevermind!
When you/someone (present some of his/her personal experiences as theory to 'prolong the discussion' in a debate) have a "theory" with no testable predictions, meaning that while it cannot be proven it technically can't be DISPROVEN either. Again, a theory that cannot be proven or disproven is a failed theory. Am I right?
No sid, you are absolutely wrong! A theory cannot be proven or disproven. A theory is valid until falsified, but therefore you need to make an effort. And there are established theories. Strictly seen there is no difference of everyday life theory and scientific theory. Both are equally speculative. Besides of that I cannot remind myself of to have posted a theory. "Those who are curious enough are practising....that's the only way to 'determine' its value..." Hypothesis: Current wake state of most humans is still a dream. Develop your own approach if interested.... Either one wants to have own answers which can be debated / verified / falsified or one doesn't care to find own. But pseudo reasoned resistance under the pretext of science without own experiences??? And? What has that to do with the intent to practice and evaluate eastern meditations?
What if to think to be awake is Mythology? I mean it is nothing more than a belief! Can be still a nested dream....
Not an issue, this... It's much less problematic for the world than paddling myths/religion/authoritarian (or worse) ideology/scientism/etc. while awake...
What you (Yen sir) said is that mysticism is a valid theory using an "Argument from Authority"... Meaning that even though mysticism doesn't satisfy the fundamental definition of a theory for example(testability and falsification) it is still valid because "most spiritualist believe so in this board..."
Isn't there a point where we/human have to decide whether we/human is basically good, or basically evil?
Sid, you came up with the terms 'theory' and 'mysticism', not me . You generalize mysticism and apply a special meaning of 'theory' to it. Your fundamental definition of 'theory' does not exist! From where have you got that? It is if at all a relative quality attribute of a theory but never its fundamental definition! A theory is valid until falsified. RT is contradictory to quantum physics. And string theory should unite both!? And? Actually science wants to have ONE theory of reality and that would mean to violate their own claims of a theory! YOU are speaking of a theory and at the same time you say it does not meet your claims?! Theory has different meanings... 1a: A system of scientific reasoned statements to explain certain facts or appearances and their underlying laws. 1b: Teachings about generic terms, laws, principals of a special subject of science, art, technology. 2a: Purely conceptual, abstract (not praxis orientated or related) consideration or approach to. 2b: Unrealistic imagination, pure assumption The competence is reason, the direction truth. Btw: Did you know that the meaning of theory originally had been meditative cognitive process? AFAIK science claims: reasonability, plausibility, explicitness, logic stringency, reproducibility, compatibility. I can clearly notice that you have some resistance to what I post. That is OK. But you never can figure its value if you don’t evaluate it by yourself. If you want to have it more scientific.... Hypotheses: Wake state is a nested dream. Approach to figure: Develop / use unified activities which increase moments of awareness. Or practice traditional eastern meditation. Determination / analysis: For instance: Use unified tests which are able to determine changes. Just like cognitive tests (ADAS-cog-Test to determine Alzheimer). Or simply debate about with persons who have participated. It is known to science that there are conditions of cognitive processes / perception which are difficult to determine. ...if there should appear 'mystic' experiences well determine a unified scale or simply make a record that they appear... (I have been involved in Alzheimer's disease research and at the beginning it was hard to get a test to determine the degree / progress of the sickness.) Sid, either one is interested or not. . It's no problem......what is 'mystic' about that? But to use artificially created inconsistencies does not help here. It is unreasoned resistance. BTW: Are you always having such demands in daily life situations? Like the train has been delayed and you demand a theory for the reason, lol? You mean conscience? You cannot know if it is no issue! And what if the reason for all this would be dreaming? You don't know that you are awake....do you? And people say to others : Hey, are you dreaming? When they show unreasonable behaviour, or have wrong ideologies, wrong idea of oneself, right? As logic conclusion one has to be awake when having the 'right' idea of oneself? What is the right? Or: "Isn't there a point where we/human have to 'decide' whether we/human is basically good, or basically evil?" A dilemma that what is right to one can be false to others...
If I can not know it is not an issue - how can you claim it is an issue?!? Oyoyoyoyoyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!
..what if.. is no claim. I just wanted to appeal to one's spirit of research...or at least to gain understanding for those who do... It is obvious that our world is relative to our idea of identity. Most depreciate their experience they have when dreaming...'it's only a dream'...but there is a completely different world with different physics due to a different idea of identity. (It is recognized as dream when being familiar with eastern meditations, but that is obviously too 'mystic', lol)
"You cannot know if it is no issue!" This is a claim: "You can not know..." by definition, most strenuously is... But I am not surprised - by now, no one reading this forum should be - at the levels of unconsciousness of our beloved Sir Yen! After all, he is "dreaming" most of the time...