I think, after reading all the posts (65 pages for my request!!!) I'll wait for WAT and try it like Yen says. Just a link for you to read waiting Tuesday ! Thanks to all of you ! Christian from Belgium
You cannot state that the game is lost. It'll be a dynamic game in progress. Some will win some will lose. M$ cannot afford to mark official OSes being non genuine. If you can come close enough with your attempts you'll win.
The major problem with WAT is that it acts like a virus scanner. Every 90 days or so it will download new definitions to remove the latest soft-mods, etc. I think most of the activations tools will fail after 17 of February and only the "good" bios mods will stand. Some of u may think: "Hmm if WAT is supposed to be an "m$-av" why just not create a ntfs filesystem filter driver to hide any files related to the soft-mods?" Well this might work for another 90 days but the driver would behave like a rootkit which in turn creates more "enemys" to fight with, yep u guessed it => AntiVirus-Scanners. "... and what if we put the loader in one of the PCI Option ROMS?". If WAT checks for BIOS date, vendor data, etc... this would be completely useless coz loaders simply cannot write to physical memory from E0000h to FFFFFh. Finally nobody should underestimate WAT. It's the OS of M$ so they know backdoors and different ways to achieve the same goal. In the end it's a cat and mouse game between "our" devs and the wat programmers.... but that's just my opinion....
a good opinion....'cat and mouse game' that hits the nail on the head....how much effort is needed to escape from the hunt...and yes good luck!
I've got the WAT update installed and am so far still showing genuine. I have a modded BIOS installed (ASUS board with ASUS SLIC) and also modded the BIOS version date from early 2006 to late 2009. I'll probably uninstall it and reinstall once it's released officially to see what happens. It's not my main OS so i'm not too worried if anything happens.
I do agree with you Yen, guys listen up, even if we talk 1000 more times about this WAT, everything we all know and expect will not really determine what will happen on the 16th and 17th, its like this, we are trying to prevent something that does not exist yet. IMHO, the best way is just to wait and see and prepare for it.. its like this.. the best way to do : 1. WAT is voluntary = YOU are given a CHOICE to install or NOT to install meaning (if you want to enter the game of cat and mouse go ahead and install.) 2. BACKUP your system with acronis or any backup system you want. 3. WAIT and see how DAZ, Hazar and the others to figure out a way to fix the situation. 4. Patience is a virtue guys! and we need it. 5. Thats all folks! heheheh
It depends on the bios manufacturer. It's usually stored at the mainbiosmodule. Where does WAT read the date? If the date should be an issue, there would be a way to mod it..... I guess when WAT is officially on, there will be a lot of posts like: I'm still running fine I'm using..blahblah.... and I'm non genuine I'm using blah blah...OMG... All who are trying to figure why will have a lot of work to do.... For now enjoy the silence....no need to think about yet. All are thoughts only...
Some Words 1. WAT Servers are Online and working. 2. WAT can detect at this moment: All Loader,Tools like AntiWAT (not latest Version) and Bios MOD's with Certs that don't match with OEM Key (like Dell Cert with HP OEM Key...) 3. If every thing is ok modded like (Dell Bios Slic / Dell Cert / Dell OEM Key) WAT ist passed okay (ät the moment). and yes its true, its a cat and mouse game in the future....but i believe that there came better loaders in future
I will be a part of the game with delay.... I'm playing it since it has begun... Since there will be no end of the game there will be neither a winner nor a loser. You actually can get the score coming to MDL and reading about...