WAT (antipiracy update) released unofficaly....official launch at 17/02

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by SoLoR, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    I call FUD on all this
     
  2. tuvi123

    tuvi123 MDL Addicted

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    all the activators works..
    even the RC frankenbuild method works with this update..
    it is probably not the final WAT update.
    validation is not on microsoft servers, you can download anything from MDC, there is no validation checks.
    we all need to wait untill micrsoft will offically implement WAT.
     
  3. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    THe purpose of this update is to facillitate online activation from what it seems. Look at service descriptions etc.
     
  4. tuvi123

    tuvi123 MDL Addicted

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    so this is not WAT at all?
    haha..

    btw-
    Hazar, I found a new different bug in removewat, I will tell you about it via pm if I don't forget.
    (aksi mgadiag report invalid license and there is stiill watermark on the desktop)
     
  5. SoLoR

    SoLoR MDL Expert

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    What it looks like, this is "WAT to be", once MS makes pages avilable... this is just "client", that cant connect anywhere yet... i went over those links from dll and not all are avilable yet, or they arent returning anything relevant.
     
  6. triggat

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    What this WAT is .....is SQUAT!!!
     
  7. PAYMYRENT

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    i looked at the links last night. one didnt take me anywhere at all nothing happened. so i would say every one thats saying its fake is wrong because it cant do anything if there isnt anything to do
     
  8. pkaji123

    pkaji123 MDL Addicted

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    May they will surely make some magic in SP1........
    If they make anything,Our Beloved members will find a new technique within some hours........
    I think Daz Already found it
     
  9. Yen

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    Uhmm...let's say within some weeks:D:hypo:
    btw: Where is Hung-Kwan? We can make a new deal?:busted_red:
     
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  10. PAYMYRENT

    PAYMYRENT MDL Developer

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    lol that guy was funny :p most of the stuff he said made no sense to me at all
     
  11. Yen

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    Matching the SLIC brand with which OEM? Mainboard manufacturer? There are 'Asus' boards branded by HP with disabled bios options..there are Asus boards with NEC SLICs......all official. What makes an Asus Mainborad to be Asus? The most popular Asus mainboards' bios are prepared to contain a dynamically allocated SLIC (ASUS locked1 and 2), but I never saw a preinstallation on such a board.:confused:
     
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  12. pkaji123

    pkaji123 MDL Addicted

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    :biggrin: :biggrin: He was Really a funny Guy,He even showed us MGA Diag 2.x showing Lenova Key as Non-genuine...
    Where is he,He was a funny M$ spy
     
  13. OEM-USER

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    Daz but ms only need the MB-Data from "stolen keys" in the Microsoft-Hardware-Entering-Database! ;)
     
  14. Daz

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    @ OEM-USER
    Leaked none OEM-SLP keys yes but I'm just saying theres nothing stopping them from doing it based off hardware too, in fact thats what I would go off and I bet if given the hardware information I could flag near every single modified setup. I'm not saying that will happen though, I'm saying I'm thinking ahead for all possibilities and working on ways around certain things right now. Of course once WAT is "up and running" then we will see what lasts, I just find it better to be public about things and to let people know alternative methods are being thought of and worked on.

    An example of my work would be boot sector modification detection, I know how to slip past that totally undetected by any of the applications on here trying to look for that change -- but not just via one method, multiple.
     
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  15. TSX2010

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    This WAT update could be sorted very easily, or not but an idea would be to find out the servers WAT connects to and to block them in the hosts file
    Example: 127.0.0.1 wat.microsoft.com

    So in theory your PC could not send/receive any machine IDs so your copy would still be genuine.
    Just an idea, It will probably be nothing.
     
  16. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    MS learned from the hosts trick I think, by putting it all in the OS. but this WAT update certainly changes stuff, as it's a bolt on to the OS. It's quite easy to make the system think an update is already installed through the registry, so the loader devs and so on can easily and safely uninstall it and prevent it from being installed.
     
  17. TSX2010

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    I would be surprised if they hadn't. An yeah assuming they don't keep releasing new updates, It would be a nightmare to keep up.
     
  18. ennio

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    They can't patch a hole in IE6, which is MS product, and now they will compare OEM's and SLIC's. Funny.
     
  19. PAYMYRENT

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    Hazar what part of service pack 1 dont you understand?
     
  20. Yen

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    It's time for me to make a guess.:biggrin:
    WAT will do:

    -Verifies the certificate (must be a newly issued)
    -enchanced OEMID/tableID checks for (more) ACPITables (here the loaders will fail and be disabled, but will be easily to correct.)..probably another OEM check at low memory area where SLP1 string is located..only IF they find a specific string there....
    -some specific checks to detect loaders..not sure if and what kind of...
    -Remove WAT preventions

    What WAT won't do:
    -Compare against a database
    -read out chipset IDs or other hardware related IDs to figure if it's a possible valid license or not...
     
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