WHS 2011 RTM now available on Technet

Discussion in 'Windows Server' started by delah, Apr 5, 2011.

  1. ZaForD

    ZaForD MDL Expert

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    While I too am hesitent about recommending an OS thats at the end of its life span.
    WHS v1 (IMHO) is still far, far superior to WHS 2011.

    For the exact reason that ippytattoo said,
    With 'simple' being the whole point of a WHS.
    Want more storage? Add another HDD and hit the 'Add' button.
    Want to make sure your files are safe? Tick the 'Dupelicate' box.
    Both backup network PC's equally well, and neither has a decent server backup solution.

    We all understand why MSFT pulled 'DE'
    It would cost them alot of time and money to fix it.
    And their Partners will make alot more money selling solutions that do the same thing as DE. :(

    From Business point of view you are correct it was to way slow and it doesn't play well with tried and trusted server appilcations.
    Neither of which matter in a home enviorment, which as the names implies is where WHS should be used.

    I don't get the un-reliable part ?
    As is clear from this forum and others, I've been using WHS since beta and have been hit by both the copy coruption bug (PP0) and hardware failiures. But I've nerver lost a single file from my WHS v1.

    Although the WGS and MSWHS forums are full of people with under laying RAID systems or Complex backup strategies having real reliability problems.

    On the same forums, I've seen and helped dozens of people complaining about performance issues in WHS v1.
    And 90% of the cases its DIY home servers where the users has used XP drivers in place of 2K3 drivers.
    Sourcing 2K3 drivers or replacing the hardware with 2K3 compatible equipment solves the problems.

    The same can be said about the new advanced format drives.
    They work fine in both versions of WHS when setup correctly first.
    And again neither can use the extra capacity of these drives through either BIOS or file system limits.

    Bacsically to get back to Techiekid's question, which server 'you' use at home comes down to 'your' answer to this question:

    Which of these 'Home' scenarios will get in the worst sh... errr, trouble?
    1. Taking 15 mins to find, print and/or send 'that' picture of the kids your wife loves.
    2. Losing 'that' picture forever because something happened on the super fast, complex file/backup system.

    I don't know about your homes, but in mine the Dog hates sharing the couch with anyone. :eek:
     
  2. frwil

    frwil MDL Addicted

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    There are localized versions of WHS 2011 on MSDN... i have a question: are there localized versions of Storage Server 2008 R2 or just langpacks only?
     
  3. sushil1576

    sushil1576 MDL Senior Member

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    Hi..Sebus,thanks for providing the delta for the client restore disk...Can you also provide the delta difference file between WHS2011 and WSSE ..I have got the WHS 2011 iso file,i.e en_server_install_disc_windows_home_server_2011_x64_dvd_658487.iso..It would be great and really time saving if you can upload the delta file for converting the WHS2011 iso file into WSSE iso...I am sure there is not much difference between these two iso files...Thanks
     
  4. ippytattoo

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  5. tqhoang

    tqhoang MDL BIOS Modder

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    kocoman MDL Senior Member

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    Has anyone tried with HAL7600?
     
  7. bapski

    bapski MDL Novice

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    tried this out today but seems not working? it did not boot up?
     
  8. ippytattoo

    ippytattoo MDL Senior Member

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    My bad. I missed the install part.
     
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  9. oRRs

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    #110 oRRs, Apr 14, 2011
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    Actually it DOES work.
    It corrupts your dashboard though as the standard trial product key gets removed over and over again.

    Dashboard Crash Log:
    Code:
    [2576] 110410.173817.7968: General: Search for object with query: Select * FROM SoftwareLicensingService
    [2576] 110410.173818.6562: General: Search for object with query: Select * FROM SoftwareLicensingProduct WHERE ApplicationId="55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f" AND PartialProductKey <> null
    [2576] 110410.173818.7031: General: ManagementException in getting ActivationStatus: System.Management.ManagementException: Invalid number of instances found in the result of query (Select * FROM SoftwareLicensingProduct WHERE ApplicationId="55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f" AND PartialProductKey <> null).
    bei Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Setup.Common.Serv erActivation.QuerySingleObject(String query)
    bei Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Setup.Common.Serv erActivation.get_Status()
    [2576] 110410.173818.7500: Dashboard.Forms: !!!!FATAL: Dashboard shutting down due to unhandled exception: Invalid number of instances found in the result of query (Select * FROM SoftwareLicensingProduct WHERE ApplicationId="55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f" AND PartialProductKey <> null).
    [2576] 110410.173818.7968: Dashboard.Forms: System.Management.ManagementException: Invalid number of instances found in the result of query (Select * FROM SoftwareLicensingProduct WHERE ApplicationId="55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f" AND PartialProductKey <> null).
    bei Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Setup.Common.Serv erActivation.QuerySingleObject(String query)
    bei Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Setup.Common.Serv erActivation.get_Status()
    bei Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Dashboard.Forms.M ainForm..ctor()
    bei Microsoft.WindowsServerSolutions.Dashboard.Program .Main()

    As a workaround you can install the standard product key that is installed as default (non activated install without supplying a serial yourself):
    Code:
    slmgr -ipk PRODUCT_KEY_HERE
    (don't know if I may post that here so I don't. You can get it by using the command "slmgr -dli" on a !fresh install! when you havent used any activation tool yet.)

    After running that command you can open the dashboard (only works sometimes as the key gets removed after some seconds quite often!)


    Got some reports that Chew7 v1.1 works flawlessly on both VMWare Workstation and "real" hardware. You can remove the kind of high CPU usage it produces by changing the intervall in the registry Key HKLM\SOFTWARE\Chew7\IntervalSeconds to something like 300 (it constantly had 10% in my VM and now 0%)
     
  10. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    #111 sebus, Apr 14, 2011
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  11. terdinglage

    terdinglage MDL Novice

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    #112 terdinglage, Apr 15, 2011
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    At 300, mine was constantly floating at 100% for some odd reason. I changed it to 3000, and it worked. Is that an OK thing to do, or am I messing with something by changing it that much?
     
  12. sushil1576

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  13. Aspr0

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    and what about "Windows Loader v2.0.0" for activation, it should work with Vail as it is based on windows 2008 r2 ?
     
  14. ZaForD

    ZaForD MDL Expert

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    This has been said before a number of times both in this thread and around the forum.

    Loaders are based on working VL or SLP keys.
    So untill working keys are in the wild they won't work.
    If you force them to install the wrong keys they will cause problems down the line.
     
  15. ippytattoo

    ippytattoo MDL Senior Member

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    With OEM built units being reportedly scheduled to hit the markets next month I would suspect that we should see keys for WHS and WSSE to be in the wild somewhere around the end of next month or the beginning of June. It all depends on how soon someone is able to extract the key from retail units or OEM media. We will not have any correctly working activation scenarios until that time.
     
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  16. ReelFiles

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    I just used Chew, works fine.
     
  17. benjamato

    benjamato MDL Novice

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    I cannot unzip this file, winzip and 7zip both report unsupported compression method. Work for anyone else?
     
  18. benjamato

    benjamato MDL Novice

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    #119 benjamato, Apr 16, 2011
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    This is what I was referring to.
     
  19. sebus

    sebus MDL Guru

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    Yes, works for me, just use newest 7-Zip 9.xx (not the 4.xx)

    sebus