Why moving to Linux to avoid Microsoft spying is impossible for most people

Discussion in 'Linux' started by roga, Aug 29, 2015.

  1. WindowsGeek

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    Hey man go to CNN.com and go throw their blogs or type in their search engine, it is a fact the computers china makes and sell back to us have malware install in it and yes we are taking measures to defeat it with patches, but what makes u think the computers rolling out now have malware that can defeat a lot of does security back door patches? the number one cyber attackers to the US is china and russia.
     
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    #384 pirithous, Sep 12, 2015
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    Why don't you quote yourself in another thread and you'll see -- you didn't exactly say what you're saying now (you didn't say what you claimed to have said). You specifically set out to make the Linux kernel look like it's some kind of screen door, and portray Windows as this perfect piece of gold that's untouchable. Your whole trollish Microsoft-worshiping attitude is abundantly obvious and your mission is clear as a bell. Your whole argument is falling apart, and it's obvious why you are here. You registered a few days ago, then came in here to troll. It wouldn't be surprising to me if you are another person on here and are using a secondary name. In fact, now I'm very suspicious. You registered just a few days ago, already have 30+ posts, and are trolling about how awful of a person Linus Torvalds is, and how Linux forums are full of people that are rude whereas that doesn't exist on Windows forums. And which threads are you targeting? Ones about Linux which you are deliberately attempting to disrupt. There's no end to your fallacious arguments. I think if you do keep it up, I could see you getting banned from here. But then you'd just come back as another user and troll more, and more and more.

    Get a life.
     
  4. Night AoX

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    Nope. I've been consistent throughout each of my posts. Everything I've posted has been in correlation with the OP. Linux operating systems are cool but, not perfect.

    Any OS can be a screen door when you add more variables to the platform. But, like you said, I clearly I don't know anything about a determined hacker with the necessary tools and necessary knowledge.

    You've been name-calling these past few days. Completely unnecessary. If anything, it would be you that gets banned.
     
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    There has been nothing but truth spoken here. Keep it up; mods already alerted to your disruptive behavior.
     
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    #387 odiebugs1, Sep 12, 2015
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    I love this thread, has me on the edge of my seat. Almost better than a soap opera. :clap: :biggrin: With some UFC :chair::bashtroll::motz:.......:rofl6:



    :puke: :suicide:
     
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  8. roga

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    #389 roga, Sep 13, 2015
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    It does get sent over the network, did you read my previous post with the link? Someone did a traffic analysis, and discovered Zeitgeist is responsible along with GeoClue for phoning home to Canonical during boot and shutdown. They chose to do it during boot and shutdown to avoid detection on the same computer, he discovered it only by looking at the router traffic. This sort of sneaky behaviour is downright spying, stop denying it.

    Toggling "record file and application usage" does not work. The package needs to be deleted entirely. Ubuntu still works with it removed, problems are no searching on desktop and no time updating.
     
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  12. roga

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    I've already tried escape pods of linux (mint and ubuntu), now I want the mother. ;)
    I tried the Debian you linked me. 8.2 cinnamon both x86 and x64. Using 4gb stick. I made them bootable using FAT32 netbootin.
    Strangely I get the same errors on 2 different computers, one desktop one laptop.
    Any reason why mint and ubuntu live dvds boot fine on my computers, and debian does not?
     
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    #395 SOCRATE_MMXII, Sep 13, 2015
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    I used Rufus to write the Debian ISO to the USB stick. Unebootin is incapable of writing correctly an ISO image. It happened to me quite a few times. It's garbage, even though is praised too much...
    That's why you got those errors. Unebootin messed up the image.
    Rufus never dissapointed me.
     
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    #396 roga, Sep 13, 2015
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    I tried Rufus 2.3 on windows, it needs to download 2 new ldlinux files for the Debian image. But my windows computer is offline only. My online computer is linux, and there is no Rufus for linux :mad:
    The 2 new ldlinux files is probably causing the netbootin problems, I do not think netbootin checks for those.
    I am thinking you got your Rufus working with Debian 8.2, because your windows was connected to internet and you downloaded those 2 files?

    I downloaded the 2 files manually and got it working now, will try the new live dvd soon.
     
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  16. roga

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    #398 roga, Sep 13, 2015
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    Debian 8.2 live boots successfully!
    I got Rufus working on offline windows by manually downloading the 2 required files elsewhere, and copying them to the rufus_files directory.
    The boot menu is different with Rufus, compared to netbootin made USB. There are extra options with the Rufus made USB.
    I feel like throwing netbootin in the trash for wasting my time, it was ranked most popular linux boot maker and what a turd it ended up being. There was no warning about netbootin possibly having errors too.
    Thanks for getting me on Rufus. Now for some Debian experiments.

    How do you check what video driver Debian is using? How do you check for Debian updates?
     
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    I wanted to upload the rufus files for you, but the forum didn't allow me.
     
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    OT note:
    I like this thread very much and I do not want to have it closed. It's no problem that 2 people are discussing controversially.

    As a reminder I want to say: Please be aware if a discussion (dialogue) leads to rule violations / personal insults. Refrain from doing so.

    Always keep in mind if one has lost the original purpose, to inform others and another purpose has taken its place (to personally fight about who is more right/wrong)

    Thanks. :)
     
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