So, non-Windows Insiders get .NET Framework CUs but Beta/Release Preview channels users don't? Why do you separate the Dev channel from UUP if it shows up on it? On UUP Dump there's a more recent EP/Feature Update than the one which shows up on the Updates Overview. So, there are non-channel updates called Preview too like at least some Catalog updates? May Catalog updates be more up-to-date than Channel ones?
You're mixing up all the info and concluding all wrong. Non insiders get the official publicly released updates and optional updates on WU. Insiders get the SSU/CU updates which are released at the insider level they enrolled in. On beta/rp channels on 1909 all public updates were offfered on WU + the IP level updates for their IP level. Because that channel has nothing to do with Updates. It still is .479 on the overview as on UUP, last time i checked. Running in circles here. Catalog updates are either public or non security preview updates. In some cases an update goes thru the channels and is moved from RP/Beta channel to Preview Catalog, but not always.
I think there is an issue with the latest downloads of the Dynamic Updates. I tried both .572 and .608 with the proper updates. I restored Windows from three different saved Windows images, even a version that's from a few months ago where W10UI worked perfectly. When it gets W10UI gets to installing the Dynamic Updates on my extracted 19042.1 ISO I get this. It never used to do that on any of my Windows installs. Can someone test it? Only other thing I can do is a clean install of Windows but I don't think that's the issue. It's always worked in the past with any of the images I restored. windows10.0-kb4588844-x64_b990911e041404A014e4a01f0a1086714675290b.cab No Instance(s) Available. No Instance(s) Available. No Instance(s) Available.
UUP offers all updates that the WU service also offers, including the updates for an upgrade scenario. UUP dump ISOs are made from those updates and base files, not an official feature of MSFT but by @whatever127 (website and technics) and @abbodi1406 (conversion + updates integration script). Again, in upgrade scenarios it's downloaded by setup. What has update history to do with this? I didn't use it in my answers. I have the idea that none of my answers stick.
If I integrate the latest DU for Sources on an ISO, use it to install Windows and afterwards do an in-place-upgrade install will it sill be offered by the setup? Why are SSU installed when installing CU via WU but when integrating updates on an ISO we need to integrate both and not only the CU? Why aren't they installed when manually installing the CU too? I meant integrating the DU for Sources when creating a new ISO, not DU for SafeOS.
Yes. Because MSFT made it working that way. On WU, it downloads (if needed) the latest SSU when the latest CU is downloaded and installs the SSU silently (won't show up in "update history" but will show on "Installed Updates". Both are needed for an 100% uptodate ISO. Take a look at the Updates Overview and the W10UI progress i always show before i announce the updated overview: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/windows-10-hotfix-repository.57050/page-546#post-1625365
I think that doesn't make much sense since the latest DU for Sources already had been integrated on that image. I can't find any option to download updates and drivers but only to get updates from other Microsoft products when updating Windows. If I check that setting will I be offered DU for SafeOS? Also, what "Microsoft products" are those, drivers, maybe DU for SafeOS (it doesn't make much sense for it to be called "product") and what more?
I keep repeating myself, it's not offered on regular WU but when upgrading it gets downloaded when that option is checked.
Again, I think that doesn't make much sense since the latest DU for Sources already had been integrated on that image.
There is more in life that doesn't make sense and still Windows downloads it when the option at upgrade is checked, it doesn't check what already is integrated in the ISO. it may skip the installation of the upgrade during the process. Stop comparing online and offline updating, that are two different scenarios. In the past that were drivers and software for other MSFT hardware (and silverlight in the far past) but drivers are already included without that setting enabled.
So, just to be sure, DU for Sources and DU for SafeOS are offered by the setup after checking the setting to get updates from other Microsoft updates? And what about now? "Other Microsoft products" are DU for Sources and DU for SafeOS only?
Again, the DU for SafeOS is offered at upgrade scenarios when the option to download drivers, updates, etcetc... is checked at setup.
Just to be sure, like DU for Sources, right? What does the Windows 10 setup mean by "optional features" and what does the WU setting mean by "other microsoft updates"?
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