Windows 11 Tweaks, Fixes and Modifications [Overview]

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by Enthousiast, Jul 1, 2021.

  1. eemuler

    eemuler MDL Senior Member

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  2. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Well yeah that would be the point of testing it. It will be at least a tiny bit slower. The question is in what exactly is being bottlenecked. Is it the cpu or the hard drive. When it tests a file against the database, does that require extensive hard drive usage such that a slow rotational hard drive would have a hard time keeping up with, or is it mostly cpu/memory intensive such that it's loading a comparing a bunch of these files in memory and isn't so much being held back by the drive? It also really matters whether or not defender is scanning each individual files or just files that match certain types that could affect the system like dll, exe and such. A test on a very old system with a slow rotational drive would really show the difference in performance between enabled and disabled. We might just be spoiled with our ssd and faster systems these days.
     
  3. trollini

    trollini MDL Novice

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    Since today my 7700k no longer gives a warning on the Windows Insider Program config, probably they are really working on supporting 7th gen proccessors
     
  4. eemuler

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    As mentioned above, this has a 2.5"SATA SSD. Disk usage is minimal - the disk I'm copying from is the one that gets maxed out - either USB pen drive or USB HDD (I can try using a USB SSD - I think I can get my hands on one). The CPU usage is the worrying bit. Task Manager shows that the resource hog is Antimalware service executable. I'll report further once I have the external SSD drive.
     
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    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    No point stressing it. You're under no obligation to do anything. I'm sure other people out there will have some ability to test performance. Have a good one man.
     
  6. mrbbq

    mrbbq MDL Addicted

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    I actually have found the same on a low spec device. My 2011-ish netbook with its Atom N450 1.66Ghz, 2Gb, GMA 3150, 60Gb (Proper) SSD has the CPU very heavily being used by Defender.
     
  7. eemuler

    eemuler MDL Senior Member

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    No, no, I'm doing this for me. I like to tinker. Also, if I can get it working on this old laptop, I'll have more confidence about running in on my main laptop. Thank you for helping me out.
    I tried with Defender Control (which works, btw. but the comments on the site say Defender gets re-enabled when you reboot).
    Using the mame 64bit exe, the results are as follows:
    1. Defender on - extract to folder on same SSD. About 30 seconds. 100% CPU usage.
    2. Defender off - extract to folder on same SSD. About 15-20 seconds. About 60% CPU usage.
    Disk usage was under 10% in both cases - the SSD is quite fast.
    I think I need a bigger test file. Do you think videos are suitable for this testing? I have entire TV series, all seasons. Microsoft might rat me out for piracy, though. :rolleyes:
    I got the external SSD, but this laptop only does USB 2.0, so the interface is going to be the bottleneck.
     
  8. Xtreme21

    Xtreme21 MDL Addicted

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    @Enthousiast Can the context menus post be added to your Overwiew post plz, it's a popular one.

    No rush, I appreciate you're busy on the forum. Cheers.
     
  9. drew84

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    @Enthousiast, any chance this thread can stay ON TOPIC - Tweaks, Fixes and Modifications
    ... thread has turned in to another Win11 discussion thread along with 22000, Sun Valley, TPM 2.0, first page OK, next 4 pages discussion Win11 (1 tweak presented)
     
  10. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    If only i was that powerful, i've asked for it to be ontopic, but as always that doesn't last long these days.
     
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    a5724 MDL Novice

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    Win 10 style File Explorer shortcut

    %SystemRoot%\explorer.exe /e,::{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}

    Starts, another instance with the old ribbon and right click menu. Works on 22000.51
     
  12. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    As soon as my wife goes to bed (it's her last week of the holidays) i will check the posts and update the overview.
     
  13. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    Small problem with Open-Shell is that the new Win11 Start button is not yet detected properly. Thus, both buttons currently overlap and you can accidentally hit both. Note that having the Taskbar at the smallest size works around it, somewhat.
     
  14. donmiller

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    Yes it's a small problem. I run a small taskbar and use a custom start button that covers up the Windows 11 start button. There are many free custom start buttons available (for free) on the Open-Shell website. As long as I've used a custom start button, I have had any trouble with hitting both start buttons. Open-Shell has been maintained pretty-well and I figure there will be more versions that will work better with Windows 11.

    EDIT: Sometimes it seems like MSFT doesn't know the difference between the Taskbar and the Start Menu! So when one docks the Taskbar to the left, are they docking the Taskbar or are they docking the Start Menu? 'Seems like it is the Start Menu and the Taskbar is permanently docked to the bottom of the screen.
     
  15. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    That's actually the best part of the story:D
     
  16. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    I know, here's the animated one I use:

    win8 logo button v2.png
     
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    #100 parafer, Jul 6, 2021
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