George...I looked over the entire site and can see nothing about PMs or that I have received one. Where are PM's indicated, either for sending or receiving?
In 2023, the PCI bus is still required. Personally on my tower I have a Technotrend satellite DVB card, it works from XP to W11 including Linux. My motherboard is a Gigabyte H310 S2p 2.0 + i9100 + UHD graphics 630
What about winload.efi/winresume.efi? They are completely completely missing from Win7 x86, unless someone ported the ones from Win8 there's no chance to boot on pure UEFI.
Not talking about UEFI. Btw, About 7 UEFI 32 but I have Intel Compute Stick to play with, But in future. I think booting 7 using 8 EFI files will be fine
If you ever change your mind about about AMD: B450 with Ryzen 7 (up to 2700X) work natively, clean and nice. The CPU is beast, stable daily tasks barely consume 2% of it
Just notice the other day that my mobo, based on the Raptor Lake chipset (700 series), has one chipset driver dedicated to a PCI to PCIe converter. The other PCI chipset drivers are all listed as PCI, not PCIe.
I have nothing against AMD but I have used Intel since day 1 and I am so used to using their products. That's partly because Intel has been putting out very detailed manuals for their products.
These sentiments are just so spot on. We get told by corporations what we are allowed or not allowed to do with the stuff we bought. As I mentioned in my virgin post here today, it is up to us and we applaude those who help fulfil our requirements, especially a reluctance to use s**t OS packed to the gills with crap. (Sorry, should I use stars if I use that word?). With Windows 7 I can get work done. With Windows 10 I can't remember getting anything done that satisfied me. Yes I did type some business letters in Word but only because I was away from my 6 Kilo X58 Triple Channel laptop, but I didn't come away satisfied. All the time I felt like the OS was hell bent on distraction (I pity the poor souls with an attention deficit disorder that has them go down a monumental rabbit hole that lead to some nonsense about position widgets), it was not designed for what I need to do. It was a new highly regarded plastic laptop games machine. It blew its display card (integrated) in just a few weeks over two years old. My 2009 laptop been running flawlessly almost 24/7 since that time (I guess little stress on the board from stopping and starting cold), but the point I think is well made. Now I have a broken laptop with rubbish OS, that I have to decide to get repaired. I have to travel on the road to clients to help them in their startup businesses, so its not really a game for the D900F monster. Besides which I want to preserve that machine. I have ended up scouring the net to pick up old ones for spares, and I am so heavily invested with the installed sotfware, I'd go bankrupt replacing it. And yes, I'm not exactly into the business of being deactivated unless I keep subscribing to the software gods, like some sort of Highwaymen demanding to be paid the ransom, to continue along the road. I am getting too cynical perhaps, and I might well be out of order to suggest that when Bill Gates still had major influence at MS, he tended to keep licenses and activations set up in such a way that those of us who were younger and didn't have a company or a business, or even a job back then, who could not afford to pay, had alternative ways to enjoy the software, download it and even register it. That wasn't accidental; it was a method of self-selection as a party who could pay. Then the true corporate guys move in, and just like receivers, they look for everywhere they can extract money. They provide an operating system that is said to be a marvel to video game players and those of us who do online gaming all over the world and no doubt enjoy graphical and creative artistic stuff. That's fine for them, but I just want a real operating sytem that works, doesn't make me feel its playing a bit deceptive with me, or blocking me from doing stuff i would ordinarily be able to do so easily in Windows 7, that by the time you have looked up how to achieve it and find out its a nightmare, or even just isn't a function you can use how you had hoped, in Windows 7 the job was already done on a drop down menu. I hope I am not coming across all offensive to those who think I am an idiot for eschewing the security that we all (should) understand Windows 10 and up provides, but I'm satisfied how I have secured myself for last three years without updates except one or two that even the corporate Microsoft thinks we must have irrespective of whether we paid them more dosh for their new plastic OS. Now I am on a mission to get a complete Windows 7 install solution on the ASUS mobo. It looks like that could be difficult for someone like me, who didn't get into understanding drivers and UEFI or non CSM machines. I understand the problem has been worked on by a number of people who realised that we have this need and they gave their time generously in this and other places. I just need to meet or find that person who can help me install Windows 7 on a machine that is about 3 years old since launch. It has security features built into the 'BIOS' which fortunately can be turned off, and USB3 which needs some workaround, but that's about all I know that is relevant. So you see folks, I'm one of those muppets that doesn't really understand much about how to do this. If I could become a more learned person, I would get the plastic laptop repaired. I guess my next little surprise as a cynic in this current environment, is that someone will tell me if the video output goes, then the mobo is junk. I can sense that coming up sometime soon.
Windows 10 Enterprise 2016 LTSB works and feels a lot like windows 7 (just uglier) if you have no alternative. Otherwise I couldn't agree more on your sentiments about the way m$ has gone. Currently typing from an ASUS N752VX laptop and windows 7 main OS
Update...finally got my USB ports running thanks to an older W7 driver by @canonkong. The mobo is an ASUS Prime B760M with a 13th generation Intel i5 processor It was the same driver from @canonkong I had used to get W7 running on a B360M Asus mobo but I seem to have damaged my OS somehow and it would not load. I forgot to load the switch driver first and it has not loaded successfully. Need to look at that. It is listed as inoperative in Device Manager\System Devices\ PCI bus. Claims the driver iusb3hcs.sys cannot be loaded. Information on this would be appreciated. Otherwise, USB seems to be working fine. I had a decent backup image so I went for it and loaded a fresh install. Now I am using the Windows.old directory to rebuild my system. Fortunately, I had many reg files with registry setting from my main apps. I was surprised that the new installation left all my old apps and files intact. USB 3 is running, I have keyboard, mouse, and storage (USB drives). I even have internet through a USB Cisco WIFI unit. That means, of course, the onboard Realtek LAN drivers work and the NVidia GTX 1630 video card works. Also my Creative Soundblaster Audigy RX is working. I am sure there is a lot of fine-tuning to do yet but I am happy to have the moue and keyboard running and the ability to transfer files via a USB thumb drive. I got the drivers using Snappy drivers download via torrent. Updated using UpdatePack7R2-23.11.15.exe
So is installing 7 on a Dell 7060 possible; reading the threads ,(just started) seems to be an option with a bit of stuffing around.
I would say it depends on the processor. Info I have supplied is related to the Intel B760 series chipset and the i5-13th generation processor. I don't know about AMD but @canonkong specializes in that area. I am surprised at how little difference there is under the hood between XP, W7, W8 and W10. There is a significant jump between XP and W7 based on the underlying system and how it interacts with drivers. Still, I got XP working well enough on the B360 Intel chipset with just an acpi and sata driver. Once I got a USB driver, thanks to @canonkong, XP worked faster and with good stability. To get all features working is another matter. @Dietmar has XP running on the B760. W7 was even easier for the B360 chipset. All I needed were the USB drivers and a modded SATA driver. Even for the B760 chipset, that was pretty much all I needed to reach the desktop, and the same @canonkong drivers that worked for USB on the B360. Of course, I managed to find drivers for my Nvidia GTX 1630, my Soundblaster Audigy PCIe RX, and my Realtek LAN drivers, in driver packs. The Snappy driver installer found them all. Be aware that you need a PS/2 port if your USB drivers are not working. I used a USB keyboard and mouse with my B360 but the B760 has only one PS/2 port and I had to relearn DOS keyboard tricks really fast. I even had to add a few like 'Mouse Keys'. It would be quite difficult to install the required drivers without getting to the desktop, but it could be done externally using DISM from an operating system like W10. That requires a lot of reboots and no Device Manager to check driver errors, etc. Also, you'll need to dig for the modded drivers that will work with your system and that requires a lot of experimentation.No one can really help with that other than offering things to try. It depends on how fully functional you want your W7 installation to be, Obviously, my Intel 13th gen processor has far more cores and I have not yet tested that for full functionality.
Thanks for your info. I can't actually recall processor info, but will check in the weekend. Looks like it could be to messy, just can't be bothered... maybe. Might just look for a 7050 USFF, already have a 7050 Desktop, everything works perfectly after changing a word in one driver. Pathetic that they know 10-11 is so s**t they feel the need to block us from using something which after 10 years or so works as it should when it was released. No longer interested in spending a lot of time on this, life is short.
I have been whining about that for a long time. Unfortunately, Intel, Asus, and other outfits are playing the M$oft game. They won't supply drivers required to run W7 or XP on their newer systems. Not only that M$oft tries to have sites shut down who dabble in modding drivers to make XP and W7 work on newer systems. That proves how mean-hearted they are. Many people around the world cannot afford newer systems, and the attitude of M$oft is 'too bad'. The newer management since Bill Gates has gone in a new direction. The current CEO suggested at one point that women don't belong in corporate positions, rather he suggested they should be at home tending to domestic chores. Really open-minded!!!
A month ago I build myself my first pc tower. Last 18 years only laptops. My pc spec msi z790 ace max, intel i9 14900k, nvida 3070ti, 64gb ram, samsung 990 pro nvme . I was told that it is impossible to install w7 on this machine. I didn't believe it and tried to check if it's true. So i used clean w7 sp1 and Wojciech Keler tool Integrate7 script. and at the end i used FlashBoot to prepare usb drive with updated windows 7 professional iso. Without any problem and other excuses instalation went quick and smooth. Obviously there are missing drivers for devices but it's not a problem and system works very good. I can confirm that I also managed to install on this machine windows vista with extended kernel but only on sata drive. works good but more drivers missing than in windows 7 but for fun i left it in my computer it's such back in time.
@gordo999 @Oz Can you get W7 installed on Dell 7060? Do you have a solution on W7 install on Dell 7070 (UEFI Class 3)? I have a Dell OptiPlex 7070 SFF i5-9500. Thanks,
I completely understand where you're coming from. It's frustrating when it feels like companies are prioritizing profits over user needs. I think many of us can relate to feeling like we're being forced into a certain way of doing things, rather than being given the freedom to choose what works best for us. It's great that you're taking a stand and seeking out solutions that work for you, even if that means going against the mainstream, and it's awesome that you're finding resources that can help you achieve your goals. Don't worry about being seen as "out of order" or "cynical" - it's okay to question the status quo and advocate for what you believe in. Keep being vocal about what you want and need from your technology, and who knows, you might just inspire others to do the same. I'd recommend reading my post at: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...windows-7-boot-freezes-on-black-screen.88785/ Alternatively, could consider workarounds such as: Using Windows 10 LTSC (Long-Term Servicing Channel) as the host OS and virtualizing Windows 7 within it, allowing for a more modern and compatible host OS while still running Windows 7 in a virtual environment. My two cents.
I am still using hardware fully supported by Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 (I7 6900K / 6850K / 6800K / 5820K with X99 motherboards) that are approaching or exceeding 10 years old. Currently I am running Windows 10 1809 LTSC and Windows Server 2019 as the main OS, but I still keep Windows 7 / Windows Server 2008 R2 / Windows Server 2012 R2 on my machines for the times I need them. I also use VMware Workstation 15.5.2 (on Windows 10 1809 LTSC and Windows Server 2019) and 10.0.7 (on Windows Server 2012 R2) to run virtual machines with older OS such as Windows 98 / Windows XP / Windows Vista / Windows 7. I also have a couple of Ryzen 7 2700X on X370 and B450 motherboards. They are running Windows 7 and are used by my father. He still uses a USB TV stick from more than 15 years ago to watch TV on those PCs. The stick only has working drivers for Windows 7 / Vista / XP and therefore cannot use Windows 10 LTSC. I have already tested those drivers on Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 LTSC and can't make them work there. So those machines are stuck on Windows 7. I understand that anything newer than the 2700X or Intel 8th generation hardware will have various problems trying to run Windows 7, ranging from lack of drivers to difficulties installing Windows 7. One of my machines is using Intel 9th generation hardware and I believe it would fall within this category. I use that machine specifically for running MacOS though, and have not actually tried to run Windows on it. I also own a couple of Z690 motherboards, and I imagine I will have difficulties trying to install Windows 7 on it. They are currently in storage and I have no plans to make use of them any time soon, however. I will NOT give up on Windows 7 / Windows 8.1 and their server counterparts 2008 R2 / 2012 R2 as long as I still have hardware capable of running them.