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    #7361 windows builder, Jul 21, 2018
    Don’t remove Microsoft Telemetry!!!
     
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    #7362 mOBSCENE, Jul 21, 2018
    Performed a test last night with v8.7 on RS4 en-US (original non-updated release) with integrating updates and .NET 3.5 and removing all apps/components, and again received error 0x800736b3 on Windows Update. Note that I did follow the instructions for RS4 in Readme.txt to the letter.

    Could this issue be related to .NET 3.5 integration? Because @MSMG : I believe you did not integrate .NET 3.5 in your tests.
    Also, just before saving the sources, I disable all Windows features manually (except PowerShell, IE and .NET related features), and enable the features LegacyComponents/DirectPlay/SubSystem for Linux. Perhaps this changes something. This probably also results in the CU being offered again by WU. I will perform some more tests later this weekend.
     
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    #7363 windows builder, Jul 21, 2018
    Don’t integrate CU!!!
     
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    #7364 maka213, Jul 21, 2018
    Integrating the CU works fine. If it didn't, i'm pretty sure the developer would have mentioned it.
     
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    #7365 windows builder, Jul 21, 2018
    If you want to integrate updates, first do it in the NTLite, and then again in the ToolKit.
    This method works 100%. I personally tested it myself many times.
     
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    #7366 maka213, Jul 21, 2018
    I must have missed that part in the read me file of the toolkit. I saw no mention in the known issues section stating that CU integration wasn't working. I also saw no mention of having to use NTLite for it either. I did however see that the developer tested the toolkit with CU integration and everything went ok. Integration of the CU worked for me and apparently others as well.
     
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    #7367 windows builder, Jul 21, 2018
    Someone like. Someone works, but someone does not.

    After integrating CU, you delete some components and require the re-integration of updates. But through the Windows Update this does not work.
     
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    #7368 maka213, Jul 21, 2018
    If that were always the case then shouldn't that be a known issue? Shouldn't it be widely reported by people using the toolkit? Wouldn't @MSMG have informed us of this issue?
     
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    #7369 windows builder, Jul 21, 2018
    The problem has long been known.
    Read the previous pages of the topic.
     
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    #7370 maka213, Jul 21, 2018
    You are the only one i'm seeing say such things. Would be nice to get a confirmation of the need to use NTLite to integrate updates from @MSMG. If it's a an issue that everyone knows about then it has been omitted from the known issues section of the toolkit read me which doesn't make much sense.
     
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    #7371 windows builder, Jul 21, 2018
    Do what you think is right.
    I just shared my experience and gave you advice.
     
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    #7372 MSMG, Jul 21, 2018 (OP)
    Removing Asimov in Microsoft Telemetry will break the installation of drivers through WU, this has mentioned in the Known Issues part inside the Readme.txt

     
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    #7373 MSMG, Jul 21, 2018 (OP)
    I have done my tests with Windows 10 Pro en-GB x64 with .NET Fx35 integrated, check the below posts

    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/msmg-toolkit.50572/page-365#post-1449873
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/msmg-toolkit.50572/page-365#post-1450042

    1) If using ToolKit to remove all components then with/without updates with/without .NetFX35 it works.

    If using updates pre-integrated, then do integrate .NetFX35 before the removal of MS Telemetry, Defender, PeopleExperienceHost, SmartScreen.

    Note: with updates removing WMP it breaks the installation.

    2) If using ToolKitHelper.exe to remove all components then you need to use a vanilla imgae with .NetFX35 pre-integrated.

    May be enabling/disabling the feature is what causing the issues, do enable/disable the features before the component removal and tryout.

     
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    #7374 MSMG, Jul 21, 2018 (OP)
    Integration of updates works fine with the ToolKit.

     
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    #7375 maka213, Jul 21, 2018
    So if we integrate updates then we can't remove WMP without breaking the iso?
     
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    #7376 MSMG, Jul 21, 2018 (OP)
    Yes, it's happening with the current and previous CU, in earlier CU's it was working properly.

     
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    #7377 mOBSCENE, Jul 21, 2018
    But only when using the ISO's with pre-integrated CU's, right? As the Readme.txt known issue states:
    - Windows 10 Redstone 4 - Removing Windows Media Player Component from an Image with a Cumulative Update pre-integrated will break the Windows Installation

    I had no issues with installation after integrating latest CU and removing WMP with the non-updated ISO from April 2018.
     
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    #7378 MSMG, Jul 21, 2018 (OP)
    Yes only with the CU been pre-integrated.

     
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    #7380 harry_ds, Jul 21, 2018
    + Added a Feature "Integrate Microsoft .NET Framework 4.7.2" for Windows 7/ThinPC/Server 2008R2

    But i dont have link for NetFX472_W7.7z
     
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