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  1. gorski

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    So, no arguments, just personal abuse and no understanding of any issues, no brains, no spine and no balls to stand up and say "I f*&* up"...
     
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  2. Yen

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    #2302 Yen, Mar 28, 2021
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    Next gen approach:
    2 oral vaccines:

    Vaxart
    COVID-19 Oral Vaccine (VXA-CoV2-1) https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/vaccines/vaxart-covid-19-oral-vaccine
    Oravax: https://www.ora-vax.com/

    The vaccines are based on a vector adenovirus ad5.
    Vaxart does not only have encoded the S (spike) protein, but also the N (nucleocapsid) protein of SARS-COV-2. (Due to that it should be more resistant to variants since the N area does not mutate that much).

    It also has code for the Toll Like Receptor-3 (TLR-3) agonist. By that it stimulates the innate immune system by stimulation of (for instance) macrophages / dendritic cells so they get more activated.

    Vaxart has completed Phase I. https://investors.vaxart.com/news-r...es-positive-preliminary-data-phase-1-clinical
    Double administration resulted in high level of IgA (antibodies that reside in mucosa). It also showed Th1 (CD8+ cytotoxic T-cell) activation path.

    Oravax will start Phase I soon.

    I'll keep an eye on them. High IgA level might be an indicator that one could not spread the virus anymore (speculative) and cytotoxic T cell path activation at real (wild) virus infections is associated to less symptoms.
    It has code for 2 targets instead of one and an adjuvant (TLR-3). Besides of that oral application comes with far less hassle.
     
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  3. gorski

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    Ach, the things we could do if only we put our best minds and resources to it!!!!

    Imagine all the resources, talent and effort directed at destruction, being re-purposed to enhance life, not to end it as efficiently as possible.....

    Imagine all the military resources being poured into creation, healing, feeding, constructing, preserving - and not at destruction, killing, annihilation!!!

    Jesus Marx wept, we have suuucchhh a loooong way to go before we can call ourselves civilised....
     
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  4. Yen

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    I only wish the real good approaches will get a real chance and come to us as therapeutics and not those who have best investors / lobbyism alone.
    So far I am not very glad about current developments...it's even worse, good cheap drugs such as IVM are suppressed by financial intents.
     
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  5. case-sensitive

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  6. Mr.X

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    Some scientists worldwide, such as the Argentine virologist based in France, Pablo Goldschmidt, has been denouncing that the measures taken are disproportionate and that it seems we forget the 3 million children who die from pneumonia that occur each year. Nobody says anything about it and it's true. Every three seconds a child dies and the world does not stop for that reason or keep a daily count of their deaths.
     
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    There is a vaccine that helps prevent pneumonia. Possibly the regions hit hardest by pneumonia don't have access to (or decline the use of) the vaccine?

    Not to start an argument with you, Mr.X, but:

    Tucker Carlson's network (Fox News) successfully argued in a court case that "no reasonable viewer would take Tucker Carlson seriously" and that his show "is opinion and commentary".

    Another quote (from Fox's own lawyers): The 'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "
     
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    @ The bottom of the dustbin

    >So do you keep thinking this isn't a conspiracy vs humanity right?

    A web site with a preponderance of negative reports about jews ?
     
  11. Mr.X

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    I don't know and I don't care about such a vaccine, I don't trust them.
    The point of my comment is that millions of infants die every year from another invisible enemy and where's the pandemic where's the disproportionate measures taken? The world does not stop for that reason or keep a daily count of their deaths like it does now on this stupid covid-19 pandemic.
     
  12. Mr.X

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    Just because authorities say so I should believe blindly. Wow :D
     
  13. Yen

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    #2313 Yen, Mar 30, 2021
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    It belongs to the same family as Fluvoxamin.

    They are selective SSRI (serotonin reuptake inhibitors) and usually used as anti depressiva.
    But they have a second attribute, they are sigma 1 agonists. Fluvoxamin is the strongest sigma 1 agonist of the family, though. (The suggested MOA is like Fuvoxamin supports sigma 1 (is agonist) which suppresses IRE1 which results in lower cytokine production in the rough endoplasmic reticulum). Cytokines are responsible for inflammation.

    Also the SSRI function might play a role at COVID since it comes sometimes with neurological imbalances...

    I suppose Fluoxetine is also useful especially when COVID comes along with neurological issues, maybe also long COVID.

    Since IVM does not pass BBB those substances can be seen as an addition to do similar actions but inside the CNS.

    The causes for pneumonia have a great variety. (Different pathogens. Can be virus, bacteria or even fungi).
    You 'only' can vaccinate against certain pathogens, in that case pneumococci.
    PPSV23 (pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine) protects against 23 types of pneumococcal bacteria.

    Anyway pneumonia kills more people around the world than COVID-19.
    People who have an isolated look at COVID-19 and play being empathic while ignoring that fact seem to me hypocritical.

    I posed about that last October already: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/coronavirus-discussion.81224/page-64#post-1624248
     
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  15. case-sensitive

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    Cut the rasim crap .



    >It belongs to the same family as Fluvoxamin.

    Prozac . Tested it when it came out . I dont like it .

    Maybe it could be combined with vitamin D , IVM and a little chlorine dioxide ...... shaken not stired ........ for better effect :)
     
  16. Yen

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    #2316 Yen, Mar 30, 2021
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    There is a doc who has good experiences combining IVM with fluvoxamine at long COVID. Cannot recall his name ATM, though.
    Anyway you have to be careful using 'cocktails' of drugs, especially fluvoxamine has side effects (reported an increase of suicide attempts)...

    In that relation MDMA should be tested as well. Don't know how it is on sigma 1, though.
    And we all know it is a classified drug. But hey...long COVID is such a bad issue if it helps...

    Yes it is known as Prozac. What didn't you like? Side effects? (feeling sick (nausea) · headaches · being unable to sleep).
    Did you use as anti depressive?
     
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  17. vladnil

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    Moscow
    Conference presentation by Valentina Kiseleva, doctor of a specialist, at the round table “Infodemia - 03/20/2021.
    No country in the world has provided evidence of the isolated Covid19 virus.
    So why do we then introduce a lockdown in the country and vaccinate people - from what?
     
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  18. case-sensitive

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    Yen

    Been through depression over and over again since i was a kid because of the circumstances of my childhood . It hurt :)

    Was prescribed tofranil and imipramine ....... wich made it worse ....... just made me feel tired and brain dead ........ and attempts at recreational use ended in a delerium tremens / psychotic ' trips ' :)

    When prozac came out i went to my doctor and asked for some to test ....... and got some ....... if i can give a good reason why i want things i get them :) ....... Prozac made me feel tired , brain dead and as if my consciousness was in prison ....... locked in .

    Antidepresants is an interesting subject for me ...... same as antipsychotics ...... because they dont work :) ...... just make people feel tired and mentaly castrated .

    When i posted that link i was being a little provocative :) ........ and wondering what some of us might make out of it :)

    Another reason is that just because a drug has abuse potential it doesnt mean it has no potential for other uses .

    Strangely strange a neighbour has a wicked type of blood cancer but didnt find out untill he stoped useing methamphetamine . He was suddenly very ill and got a kropf over a few weeks . As soon as he started taking meth again it went away . He still has it but hes not sick . The test results are not getting worse they're stable .

    OK subjective maybe ....... but worth enough for me to do some more reasearch ...... and found studys that said meth makes cell walls softer ....... and others that apeared to me to be relevant to that ...... and that maybe had something to do with why hes still alive . That maybe the meth helps . It was a few years ago so i cant remeber much ....... but :)

    Speed , prozac and MDMA all have ' similaritys ' chemical and in effects .

    >MDMA

    Yes :) ...... even if it doesnt have any direct effects on corona ....... it does have an effect on mind set , understanding , relaxing and dealing with stress and angsiety . In my opinion a lot of people have had bad effects and died because they were frightened and in panic . We've been driven to the edge of mass hysteria . The psychelogical effects of the pandemic and press and government reports on poeople is massive . People have been forced out of their comfort zone and have had to deal with their own imaturity ...... and it hurts .

    I'm of the opinion that a good dose of MDMA would do a LOT to heal society . To help people and society grow up , get their prioritys right and learn to accept and take their own responsibility .
     
  19. Mr.X

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    That explains your hypersensitivity to any case I bring upon here... You've being doing drugs for far too long!

    Now that should be depressive enough!
    Geez
    :)
     
  20. vladnil

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    https://respekt.plus/scharfe-worte-...ewaehlt-nicht-rechenschaftspflichtig-reuelos/


    I see what is being accused of socially killing people - mainly the media and also politicians?
    Have you guys tried not to watch TV?
    As I wrote earlier, I have not watched TV since 1997 (approximately)
    Zombie people with the media - give up the media -
    Or are you all drug addicts who can't live without media?
    So you are ordinary consumers - why then complain - eat what they offer you and do not whine!


    PS:
    "The court concluded that Google does not notify users that it is involved in the alleged collection of data while the user is in private browsing mode," - said in the ruling of the US District Court for the Northern District of California Lucy Koh.
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    Users are surrounded from all sides in order to extract the last money from them. .......:) :)
     
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