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  1. Mr.X

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    Wikiwand
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    Wikiwand????
    Wikipedia?
    What a reliable source of information... Yeah right

    Wikiwand based on Wikipedia says Wochenblick is a bs source... Wow @case-sensitive , you're so smart you are so great to debunk bs, you're The Magnificent Debunker.
     
  2. gorski

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    Covid-19 in the UK
    44.5% received at least one vaccine dose

    Daily cases
    4,715
    -872 v last week

    In hospital
    4,560
    -1,576 v last week

    Daily deaths
    58
    -38 v last week
    Cases and deaths as published on 27 Mar, hospital numbers on 25 Mar. Vaccine number is % of population to have received one dose by 26 Mar. Source: PHE.


    Compare with Mexico...

    Mexico Covid death toll leaps 60% to reach 321,000
    New government report includes excess deaths and shows fatalities may exceed those of Brazil, the world’s second worst-affected country
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    Graves in a section of a cemetery in Mexico’s Valle de Chalco set aside for coronavirus victims.

    Associated Press
    Sun 28 Mar 2021 07.27 BST
    Last modified on Sun 28 Mar 2021 14.21 BST

    Mexico’s government has acknowledged that the country’s true death toll from the coronavirus pandemic now stands above 321,000, almost 60% more than the official test-confirmed number of 201,429.

    Mexico does little testing, and, because hospitals were overwhelmed, many Mexicans died at home without getting a test. The only way to get a clear picture is to review “excess deaths” and review death certificates.

    On Saturday, the government quietly published a report based on those figures, which found there were 294,287 deaths linked to Covid-19 from the start of the pandemic through 14 February. Since 15 February there have been an additional 26,772 test-confirmed deaths.

    The higher toll would exceed that of Brazil, which has the world’s second-highest number of deaths after the US.

    The Johns Hopkins coronavirus tracker puts Brazil’s toll at about 307,000 and the United States’ at 548,000, but Mexico’s population of 126 million is far smaller than those of either of those countries.

    Around 127,000 people have died with Covid-19 in the UK, according to Johns Hopkins.

    The new report also confirms just how deadly Mexico’s second wave in January was. At the end of December, excess death estimates suggested a total of about 220,000 deaths related to Covid-19 in Mexico. That number jumped by around 75,000 in just a month and a half.

    Also suggestive were the overall number of “excess deaths” since the pandemic began, around 417,000. Excess deaths are determined by comparing the deaths in a given year to those that would be expected based on data from previous years.

    A review of death certificates found about 70.5% of the excess deaths were Covid-19 related, often because it was listed on the certificates as a suspected or contributing cause of death. But some experts say Covid-19 may have contributed to many of the other excess deaths because many people couldn’t get treatment for other diseases because hospitals were overwhelmed.

    Former president Felipe Calderón wrote in his Twitter account Saturday that “more than 400,000 Mexicans have died, above the average for previous years ... probably the highest figure in the world”.
     
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  3. Mr.X

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    Do you honestly think posting a cemetery image is going to convince me, scare me, to reconsider my view on all this plandemic?
    Who do you think you are dealing with?
     
  4. gorski

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    So, no arguments, just personal abuse and no understanding of any issues, no brains, no spine and no balls to stand up and say "I f*&* up"...
     
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  5. Yen

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    #2305 Yen, Mar 28, 2021
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    Next gen approach:
    2 oral vaccines:

    Vaxart
    COVID-19 Oral Vaccine (VXA-CoV2-1) https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/vaccines/vaxart-covid-19-oral-vaccine
    Oravax: https://www.ora-vax.com/

    The vaccines are based on a vector adenovirus ad5.
    Vaxart does not only have encoded the S (spike) protein, but also the N (nucleocapsid) protein of SARS-COV-2. (Due to that it should be more resistant to variants since the N area does not mutate that much).

    It also has code for the Toll Like Receptor-3 (TLR-3) agonist. By that it stimulates the innate immune system by stimulation of (for instance) macrophages / dendritic cells so they get more activated.

    Vaxart has completed Phase I. https://investors.vaxart.com/news-r...es-positive-preliminary-data-phase-1-clinical
    Double administration resulted in high level of IgA (antibodies that reside in mucosa). It also showed Th1 (CD8+ cytotoxic T-cell) activation path.

    Oravax will start Phase I soon.

    I'll keep an eye on them. High IgA level might be an indicator that one could not spread the virus anymore (speculative) and cytotoxic T cell path activation at real (wild) virus infections is associated to less symptoms.
    It has code for 2 targets instead of one and an adjuvant (TLR-3). Besides of that oral application comes with far less hassle.
     
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  6. gorski

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    Ach, the things we could do if only we put our best minds and resources to it!!!!

    Imagine all the resources, talent and effort directed at destruction, being re-purposed to enhance life, not to end it as efficiently as possible.....

    Imagine all the military resources being poured into creation, healing, feeding, constructing, preserving - and not at destruction, killing, annihilation!!!

    Jesus Marx wept, we have suuucchhh a loooong way to go before we can call ourselves civilised....
     
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  7. Yen

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    I only wish the real good approaches will get a real chance and come to us as therapeutics and not those who have best investors / lobbyism alone.
    So far I am not very glad about current developments...it's even worse, good cheap drugs such as IVM are suppressed by financial intents.
     
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  8. case-sensitive

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    Some scientists worldwide, such as the Argentine virologist based in France, Pablo Goldschmidt, has been denouncing that the measures taken are disproportionate and that it seems we forget the 3 million children who die from pneumonia that occur each year. Nobody says anything about it and it's true. Every three seconds a child dies and the world does not stop for that reason or keep a daily count of their deaths.
     
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    There is a vaccine that helps prevent pneumonia. Possibly the regions hit hardest by pneumonia don't have access to (or decline the use of) the vaccine?

    Not to start an argument with you, Mr.X, but:

    Tucker Carlson's network (Fox News) successfully argued in a court case that "no reasonable viewer would take Tucker Carlson seriously" and that his show "is opinion and commentary".

    Another quote (from Fox's own lawyers): The 'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "
     
  13. case-sensitive

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    @ The bottom of the dustbin

    >So do you keep thinking this isn't a conspiracy vs humanity right?

    A web site with a preponderance of negative reports about jews ?
     
  14. Mr.X

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    I don't know and I don't care about such a vaccine, I don't trust them.
    The point of my comment is that millions of infants die every year from another invisible enemy and where's the pandemic where's the disproportionate measures taken? The world does not stop for that reason or keep a daily count of their deaths like it does now on this stupid covid-19 pandemic.
     
  15. Mr.X

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    Just because authorities say so I should believe blindly. Wow :D
     
  16. Yen

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    #2316 Yen, Mar 30, 2021
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    It belongs to the same family as Fluvoxamin.

    They are selective SSRI (serotonin reuptake inhibitors) and usually used as anti depressiva.
    But they have a second attribute, they are sigma 1 agonists. Fluvoxamin is the strongest sigma 1 agonist of the family, though. (The suggested MOA is like Fuvoxamin supports sigma 1 (is agonist) which suppresses IRE1 which results in lower cytokine production in the rough endoplasmic reticulum). Cytokines are responsible for inflammation.

    Also the SSRI function might play a role at COVID since it comes sometimes with neurological imbalances...

    I suppose Fluoxetine is also useful especially when COVID comes along with neurological issues, maybe also long COVID.

    Since IVM does not pass BBB those substances can be seen as an addition to do similar actions but inside the CNS.

    The causes for pneumonia have a great variety. (Different pathogens. Can be virus, bacteria or even fungi).
    You 'only' can vaccinate against certain pathogens, in that case pneumococci.
    PPSV23 (pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine) protects against 23 types of pneumococcal bacteria.

    Anyway pneumonia kills more people around the world than COVID-19.
    People who have an isolated look at COVID-19 and play being empathic while ignoring that fact seem to me hypocritical.

    I posed about that last October already: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/coronavirus-discussion.81224/page-64#post-1624248
     
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  17. vladnil

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  18. case-sensitive

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    Cut the rasim crap .



    >It belongs to the same family as Fluvoxamin.

    Prozac . Tested it when it came out . I dont like it .

    Maybe it could be combined with vitamin D , IVM and a little chlorine dioxide ...... shaken not stired ........ for better effect :)
     
  19. Yen

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    #2319 Yen, Mar 30, 2021
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    There is a doc who has good experiences combining IVM with fluvoxamine at long COVID. Cannot recall his name ATM, though.
    Anyway you have to be careful using 'cocktails' of drugs, especially fluvoxamine has side effects (reported an increase of suicide attempts)...

    In that relation MDMA should be tested as well. Don't know how it is on sigma 1, though.
    And we all know it is a classified drug. But hey...long COVID is such a bad issue if it helps...

    Yes it is known as Prozac. What didn't you like? Side effects? (feeling sick (nausea) · headaches · being unable to sleep).
    Did you use as anti depressive?
     
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    Moscow
    Conference presentation by Valentina Kiseleva, doctor of a specialist, at the round table “Infodemia - 03/20/2021.
    No country in the world has provided evidence of the isolated Covid19 virus.
    So why do we then introduce a lockdown in the country and vaccinate people - from what?
     
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