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  1. Mr.X

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    No, it's not dangerous. I disagree. And obviously you don't agree with my thoughts. At least those about lockdowns. Anyway...
     
  2. Mr.X

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    SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0924857920300972
     
  3. Yen

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    #2403 Yen, Apr 21, 2021
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    The posted article is basically in agreement with my thoughts.

    Some little aspects I might add, though.

    If one gets the first dose and suffers from CVT the one will be excluded from any further currently available COVID vaccinations. The risk would be simply far to high to die from it (if survived from first dose). It is a very severe adverse effect. This means the affected ones won't be eligible for the vaccines as a future idea.

    Secondly. Most do not include the fact that the vaccines do still make the original S protein (or do contain the original inactivated virus), whereas a current infection and recovery would be highly probably result in a better immunity to the new variants (better protection for future impacts).

    And lastly the efficacy of the current vaccines will further diminish as further mutations occur. Sooner or later you will have to get a re-vaccination with updated vaccines. And at each re-vaccination the risk of suffering from CVT will reappear at each newly administered jab (if the real cause cannot be found and eliminated at further vaccines).

    On the other hand: I know that data, too. While 'common' side effects have a greater chance to occur at second jab it actually does not apply to the statistics of CVT. But this argument becomes realativized due to mentioned reasons. (It is due to the fact that those who have suffered from CVT at first jab won't be allowed to 'participate' in the second administration.)

    Simple to remember: The younger you are (especially for females since clotting issues mostly occur at females) the risk to die from COVID becomes less compared to die from vaccination due to CVT. (I mean the COVID fatality risk / vaccination fatality risk ratio). I posted that already as well.
     
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    Dr. fauci said must likely in twelve months will need another booster shoot.
     
  5. Mr.X

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    #2405 Mr.X, Apr 22, 2021
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    Some people I'm Germany get organized in groups to go at the supermarkets.

     
  6. Mr.X

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    Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis
     

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    The spike proteins are a bioweapon - Dr Larry Palevski blows the lid off the covid hoax

     
  8. gorski

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    You guys talking all this nonsense and inventing sh%t without any proof - are beneath contempt...

    But moreover, you are seriously dangerous, with this idiotic idea that it's "a lot of hot air", that it is "nothing"...

    For a while now some scientists and doctors are warning about the long term effects in many, many people, even children! And now:

    Children may be at risk from long Covid symptoms, study finds
    Data shows 24% of patients had persistent ailments months after leaving a Moscow hospital
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    The silhouettes of children in Zaryadye Park in Moscow last month. A study based on children with Covid admitted to a hospital in the city found that a quarter had ongoing symptoms more than five months after returning home.

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    Children who are hospitalised with coronavirus may be at risk of persistent fatigue and other symptoms of long Covid, according to researchers who examined the health of patients months after they were discharged.

    Scientists interviewed the parents of more than 500 children who were admitted to a Moscow hospital with Covid between April and August last year. They found that a quarter had ongoing symptoms more than five months after returning home, with the most common ailments being fatigue, sleep disruption and sensory problems.



    The preliminary work from a global team of scientists, including UK researchers on the International Severe Acute Respiratory and Emerging Infection Consortium (Isaric), is not conclusive, but builds on early data from the Office for National Statistics that suggests some children may have ongoing symptoms after Covid infection.

    Among 518 children included in the study, 24% had persistent symptoms when followed up seven to nine months after they left hospital with parents most often reporting fatigue (10%), sleep disturbances (7%) and sensory problems (6%). Older children appeared to be at greater risk than younger ones and a history of allergies may be a contributing factor, too.

    Dr Daniel Munblit, a specialist in paediatrics and allergy at Sechenov University in Moscow, said that while the findings are preliminary, doctors should to take the prospect of long Covid in children seriously.

    “This shows that there is a problem,” he said. “Fatigue is the commonest issue. We are not talking about fatigue for a day or two, we are talking about quite persistent fatigue and the cause of this fatigue needs to be determined.”

    According to the study, 16% of the children had fatigue soon after leaving hospital, a figure that dropped to 12% within a few months. But from then on it declined far slower, with 11% of children still fatigued seven months later. More than 8% of children had a loss of smell on leaving hospital, and while this too improved over time, nearly 6% still reported problems seven months later.

    Previous work from the Isaric group, submitted to the government’s Sage committee of experts, found that working-age women hospitalised with Covid are five times more likely to develop long Covid than men in the same age group. But while long Covid in adults is reasonably well established as a medical condition, there has been far less research on children who do not generally become severely ill with coronavirus.

    In further work, the scientists asked parents to rate their children on a wellness scale before and after their stay in hospital. Those with no long Covid symptoms scored much the same after being discharged, but having one or more persistent symptoms significantly reduced wellness, the authors write.

    “In some children, most definitely the parents acknowledge a reduction in wellness and I would think that to a certain degree it impacts on their daily life,” said Munblit.

    Other hospitals, notably in Sweden and Italy, have recently reported cases of long Covid in children, but as with the latest study, the data came from single centres and includes small numbers of patients. How common, or rare, the problem may be in children will be the focus of a new study at UCL, which is investigating long Covid in 11- to 17-year-olds who are not hospitalised with the disease.

    Frances Simpson, a psychology lecturer at Coventry University who contributed to the study, co-founded the charity Long Covid Kids, which represents more than 2,000 concerned parents of children with ongoing symptoms. Many have been ill for over a year.

    “These families have faced the uncertainty and fear of a novel virus, often being disbelieved or told that the causes are psychological,” she said. “We have been campaigning since last year for research into this phenomenon, and are delighted that good quality research such as this is now being published. Hopefully this will lead to more research, more evidence, and better care for these children.”

    Just look at the links at the bottom of this page: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-at-risk-from-long-covid-symptoms-study-finds

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  9. Mr.X

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    #2409 Mr.X, Apr 27, 2021
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    Says the co-conspirator of the ultimate killing machine. Did they reserve a special official seat in the new ultra-technological communism?

    They don't have a damn scientific proof, absolute lack of medical evidence vaxxes can prevent covid and you go to put a damn Pfizers shot trusting their worthless words.

    Only gullible a***** ***** zzzz ***** *********** *********** can react that way.
     
  10. gorski

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    Unlike you, I have at least 2 grey cells to rub together to see further than my dumb-ass short-term, immediate interest!!!!

    It is people like you who are actually contributing to killing of millions through inaction and lies and idiotic conspiracy theories, in spite of all the evidence that is so hard hitting to so many!!!!

    WTF do you think you are doing with this moronic "story", despite this latest escalation in poor countries like India!!!??? Have you gone totally bonkers now?!?
     
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  11. gorski

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-56882167

    Covid-19 in India: Patients struggle at home as hospitals choke

    By Vikas Pandey
    BBC News, Delhi

    As hospitals in Delhi and many other cities run out of beds, people have been forced to find ways to get treatment for sick patients at home. Many have turned to the black market, where prices of essential medicines, oxygen cylinders and concentrators have skyrocketed and questionable drugs are now proliferating.

    On Monday, India recorded a new global high for daily coronavirus cases for a fifth straight day at 352, 991.

    As a principle: Science does not deal in "absolutes", you ignoramus twit! What you are after is a RELIGIOUS DOGMA and that speaks volumes of YOU, as tiresomely wanting as you are, as an allegedly educated "Arian" moron!!!

    In particular: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html - inform yourself before speaking and embarrassing yourself so freely, you dipstick!!!
     
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  12. Mr.X

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    I do believe in God unlike you.

    God's creation has many purposes, one is for us, to behold an enjoy life, the mere existence. Do you think we, our bodies need vaccines to survive?

    Well, the above question is for anyone reading my bs. I know pretty much, @gorski knows it too but he has to obey orders from high above. I have not solid evidence but I can sense its effects.

    @gorski down here, down to the same level, down here were we are mdl mates, down here to the same football field level... do you think I could believe what the CDC has to say? roflmaoooooo
     
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    #2413 Mr.X, Apr 27, 2021
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  14. gorski

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    You have benefited from various vaccines you got as a child, by not having various diseases - which you want to deny to others now, you hypocritical twit!!!!
     
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    @gorski You should ask your doctor to the vaccines for below mentioned viruses also:

    1) Norovirus -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norovirus

    2) Rotavirus -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotavirus

    They are just as dangerous as: Coronavirus -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus

    And please don't mix the facts about really dangerous viruses with this theater. ;)
     
  16. gorski

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    Perhaps you should be sent to India or Brazil right now and report on the "silly little play" they are having "enacted" there...

    Oh, switching your brain on would also be quite good when you are doing that... As in, if it didn't happen to you and yours - it doesn't mean it is not happening to anyone...

    At this point you should really shut up because rather obviously your empathy (something we should excel at but sadly many obviously are incapable of) is not exactly your strongest point, now is it?!?
     
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    #2417 wilenty, Apr 28, 2021
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    @gorski As I wrote before: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/chlorine-dioxide.82491/page-5#post-1645888
    I've spent three days in bed with big fever and I don't remember what happened in these three days - I was completely off...

    So, why there is no vaccine for Erysipelas, that can kill you?
    I have damaged skin on the legs until today, where the symptoms occurred. And it do not want to return to the previous state!

    And come back to the topic...

    My friend mother got it, she had liver in bad state - she alive.

    Another friend got it with wife - they alive too.
     
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    #2419 Yen, Apr 28, 2021
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    @Palladin

    As soon as I have more time I am happy to study what you have provided sharing my thoughts about.
    (Maybe during work next days).

    ATM during lock-down I have started to play games again. Signifier directors cut. Never played such a game love it. You (being a scientist) have got a downloaded consciousness from a woman that has passed away to figure the reasons why by exploring her consciousness and visions/dreams.

    Objective state and subjective state of her consciousness (data) AND reality.

    An artwork per se and a new concept of gaming. Not for everyone but it is very exciting to me.:)

    And at all. Please don't fight personally about what's going on especially in India. I am shocked, too. But keep in mind there are 1.3 billion citizens and numbers have to be related to such a huge population.
    Nobody here is in any way personally responsible why they have that numbers. I only could figure that they have to double the ivermectin dose to get more of significant decline at numbers. And states using it there are better. I am watching any news thoroughly.

    See ya soon back here.

    In the meantime I might want to share this (interesting).

    "Coronavirus: How the common cold can boot out Covid."


    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56483445
     
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  20. gorski

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    ATM we have humongous numbers of people dying throughout the world and many not dying but suffering the long C-19. How hard is it to figure it out?!? How hard is it for some people to have an even minimum of empathy going?!?

    It's incredible how many people are perfectly "fine" hiding behind big words, while being willing to sacrifice an unbelievable numbers of people dying or suffering for their own "comfort"...

    And callously so!!!
     
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