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  1. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    • Today:
    Coronavirus data
    Covid-19 in the UK
    54.8% received at least one vaccine dose

    Daily cases

    1,926
    +156 v last week

    In hospital
    991
    -164 v last week

    Daily deaths
    4
    +2 v last week
    Cases and deaths as published on 16 May, hospital numbers on 13 May. Vaccine rate is % total population to have received one dose by 15 May. Source: PHE.


    So, from tomorrow, we could see easing of the measures...

    Given the Indian variant is going nuts in the UK suddenly... I am not optimistic right now.... We shall see fairly quickly, some 4-5 weeks and the numbers will change - but which way?!?
     
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  2. gorski

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    Btw, @Yen - I got the second dose of mRNA and this time it was even milder, barely any pain in the arm, on the very spot....

    We'll see how this develops...
     
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  4. Ivermectin | Budesonide as some different Name D2 in form of Powder Introduced by INDIAN DRDO Today . What the Joke they are trying to do with Common Civillians .
     
  5. gorski

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    c_s, you are not only potentially hurting yourself but also others...
     
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  7. gorski

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    You do not understand the ABC of thinking: this has nothing to do with anyone in particular but with principles!

    Stop embarrassing yourself so wildly and publicly...

    I agree with public inquiry - it should bury the UK gov (as well as US administration at the time, Bolsonazi, Modi and many others...)...

    Economically: if we bailed the bankers and didn't "sink", why on Earth are we not able to bail ourselves out with the same (= our) money?!?
     
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  10. Yen

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    #2531 Yen, May 17, 2021
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    You mean 2-DG (2-deoxy-D-glucose)?

    This drug is not new. It's been tested to fight cancer already.
    The approach is interesting, though.

    Each cell needs energy just like a factory. The fuel is glucose to make ATP.

    'Abnormal' cells or abused cells have a higher energy consumption than normal cells.
    For instance cancer cells have an abnormal growth and infected cells are hijacked and do make massively new viruses now instead of their common 'products'.

    Both results to a higher need of glucose.

    2-DG is fake glucose BUT still similar enough to get uptaken as such.

    As a result the cells with high energy consuption are then lacking of energy and the production of viruses or reproduction rate (cancer cells) can be lowered drastically.

    I watched this since last week.
    https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1717007

    It could be promising, although I expect more side effects compared to ivermectin and budesonide.

    It deserves to get a chance. IVM (and budesonide) started the same way (anyway especially IVM is far more established already).

    Nah, you should remember...I posted an suicide attempt with ivermectin more than 70 times higher as the therapeutic dose..it did not work.
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/coronavirus-discussion.81224/page-111#post-1650014
     
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    #2532 Mr.X, May 17, 2021
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    The EMA covid-19 data leak, and what it tells us about mRNA instability
    https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n627

    I want to see, behold, enjoy, admire the bunch of stupidities to justify the abc of thinking, the abc of logic about all this vaccine mess someone in pink claims. Imbecility.
     
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    #2533 Mr.X, May 17, 2021
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    SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Impairs Endothelial Function via Downregulation of ACE2
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33300001/#:~:text=SARS-CoV-2 infection impairs,ACE2) in the host cells.

    Single intratracheal exposure to SARS-CoV-2 S1 spike protein induces acute lung injury in K18-hACE2 transgenic mice
    https://www.researchgate.net/public...Id=609032fb299bf1ad8d76c894&showFulltext=true

    Poor mice, paying with their lives to save disgusting unworthy pink asses, oh my god.

    Damage the endothelial tissue and you get covid-19 to the fourth power.
    lol

    SPIKE IN ABSENCE OF VIRUS CAUSES COVID... BAM!

    Now psychopaths will say all these deaths are caused by a new strain which is much more lethal... Evil... Fear... Disgrace... Inflated figures... Etcetera
     
  13. Mr.X

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    My little pink nuts!
    This is based on that f argument based on authority, argumentum ad verecundiam, which claims asymptomatic people are contagious, however we should remember that Chinese study, very comprehensive btw, @Yen shared months ago which scientifically demonstrates asymptomatic are not contagious.
     
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    One thing you don't hear much about is whether the transfusion blood supply will be contaminated with the mRNA compound they are using in Covid-19 vaccines. I wonder if is there a way to filter out the mRNA?

    Otherwise you can expect possible adverse reactions to a blood transfusion. And since blood transfusions are almost always given to people seriously ill, it could compound the illness, or even prove fatal.

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  15. gorski

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    You really do not understand, C_S... your mind is ill-disciplined or you're high on those jolly substances, I don't know...

    The first part of my post is referring to the first part of your post = not agreeing. We are zoon politikon, "beings of a community" and we are not able to do whatever we want without consequences! Spreading disease freely is one such "little problem" with such fallacies re. "absolute freedom to do whatever one wants"... There, did it hurt, this terribly difficult effort? Jeez...

    Go on, you can do it: sober up and you'll figure it out, why should we get an inquiry - it's called "learning lessons from..." Now, how brilliant is that, eh?

    And "what can we do with our money?" - oh, well, some things even I won't go explaining to anyone, na matter how thick or obtuse...

    You owe me a dozen cocktails for this! Phew, so much effort so early in the morning... :p
     
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    #2537 gorski, May 18, 2021
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    Mr X: I would help you if I could but there is no helping you. No one can help you! My severe condolences...

    Also, rather worryingly:

     
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    The 2 major reasons why the mRNA technology could not be established earlier is the general instability of the mRNA itself and how to make it entering the cell's cytoplasm as a whole.
    mRNA is a messenger that normally works inside the cell.
    Free floating mRNA is decomposed by RNases very quickly.

    Before you donate blood you have to list any medications either way.
    Within the vaccination period it is generally not advisable to donate blood. (It stresses the body additionally).

    Free mRNA is not an issue. You cannot filter it out, though. It does not survive within the blood sample.
    Besides of that when getting the vaccine it actually does not enter the bloodstream. It is an intramuscular injection when done properly.

    Another point would be (immune)cells already producing / presenting the antigen. If you'd get them from a blood donation you actually get a sort of a very tiny vaccination since the antigen is presented to your body.

    And not to forget there is treatment using convalescent plasma! (plasma is anything of blood except all the cells).
    By that you get antibodies against SARS-Cov-2 which you also would get by blood donation from somebody who has active antibodies. But ab's also have got a very unique part at creation (depends on personal DNA) and that is the reason why convalescent plasma does not work that well, except your factors do match well to those of the donator...

    The issue mRNA integrity at the vaccines.
    Well I rather would expect quantity issues due to the fact that mRNA is not stable.
    mRNA do have a head and a tail. (3' and 5'). They are 'formatted' and within there is the 'data' which is translated into the corresponding (s) protein. You can compare it to storage tech of well HDDs where is a header.
    Once it's broken the ribosomes cannot work on it anymore and reject the translation.

    I talked to a doc. She said mRNA vaccines are very sensitive. Not to temperature alone, but also to shock. The nano lipids can burst if shaken a lot...

    So I expect an issue with quantity. (Also if the cool-chain is interrupted) ..some people might have a lower efficacy without to know it...

    Quality control when it leaves the place of manufacturing alone doesn't say anything about that...
     
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    Native-like SARS-CoV-2 Spike Glycoprotein Expressed by ChAdOx1 nCoV-19/AZD1222 Vaccine
    https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acscentsci.1c00080

    Shedding: turns out now vaxxed people could infect non-vaxxed with such spike protein if shedding occurs.
    See pinky? Now you're going to hurt those around you. You are helpless now silly.
     
  19. gorski

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    I think you need elementary logic lessons.... But OK, who am I to stop you from embarrassing yourself freely - and publicly so...?!?:rolleyes:
     
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