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  1. case-sensitive

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  2. Mr.X

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    Yes.

    And <your> instead of <you're>
    And <..........> instead of <...> or just one dot, period! Lol

    I mean, I'm not an English speaking person but they in my elementary school thought me to watch grammar, orthography in both languages Spanish (native) and English (second) to respect basic rules of communication. This gives uniformity coherence and basic decency to people.


    Roflmao "your" nuts old man.
     
  3. gorski

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    Oh, Ali G, it's YOU!!!! WELCOME TO MDL!!!!! :p :D :p
     
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  4. pf100

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    While literally everyone is crapping their pants over this vaccine and covid in general, now that I'm vaccinated I don't give two s**ts what anyone else does.
     
  5. gorski

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    Not clever - you can still get it and spread it...

    Look above, the links I posted...
     
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  6. case-sensitive

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  7. Mr.X

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  11. gorski

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    #2731 gorski, Jun 27, 2021
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    Common sense still needed!!! (Unless you like experimenting with your very life or at least health as such...)

    https://www.theguardian.com/theobse...e-who-now-die-with-covid-have-been-vaccinated

    "A MailOnline headline on 13 June read: “Study shows 29% of the 42 people who have died after catching the new strain had BOTH vaccinations.” In Public Health England’s technical briefing on 25 June, that figure had risen to 43% (50 of 117), with the majority (60%) having received at least one dose.

    It could sound worrying that the majority of people dying in England with the now-dominant Delta (B.1.617.2) variant have been vaccinated. Does this mean the vaccines are ineffective? Far from it, it’s what we would expect from an effective but imperfect vaccine, a risk profile that varies hugely by age and the way the vaccines have been rolled out.

    Consider the hypothetical world where absolutely everyone had received a less than perfect vaccine. Although the death rate would be low, everyone who died would have been fully vaccinated.

    The vaccines are not perfect. PHE estimates two-dose effectiveness against hospital admission with the Delta infections at around 94%. We can perhaps assume there is at least 95% protection against Covid-19 death, which means the lethal risk is reduced to less than a twentieth of its usual value.

    But the risk of dying from Covid-19 is extraordinarily dependent on age: it halves for each six to seven year age gap. This means that someone aged 80 who is fully vaccinated essentially takes on the risk of an unvaccinated person of around 50 – much lower, but still not nothing, and so we can expect some deaths.

    The PHE report also reveals that nearly a third of deaths from the Delta variant are of unvaccinated people over 50, which may be surprising given high vaccine coverage; for example, OpenSAFELY estimates more than 93% among the 65-69s. But there are lower rates in deprived areas and for some ethnicities and communities with limited coverage will continue to experience more than their fair share of loss.

    Coverage and effectiveness are important numbers for assessing vaccination programmes. It is better to look at cool analysis by analysts, rather than hot takes on social and other media."

    That'll be you, X, vlad & co...
     
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  12. gorski

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  13. Yen

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    OK first BIRD now FLCCC.....yeah I know anything is crap.
    Curious now what you say against Dr. Campbell,. :)
    He's famous and considered to be serious in Great Britain.


    I mean when your arguing is like "They all are crap"....why do you wonder then that I have doubt that you are able to 'get' what you actually deny?!?
     
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  14. Mr.X

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    I traveled to Ischia a few weeks ago for an 8 day stay. In total I had 8 COVID-19 tests over a 10 day period as I traveled on 4 total planes and 4 total boats.

    I was asked about my vaccination status a total of 0 times.
     
  16. Mr.X

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    Love it. The way it should be.
     
  17. gorski

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    https://www.imperial.ac.uk/song-group/respirators-for-covid19/

    An international team including Imperial academics, admin team, doctors of Imperial NHS Hospitals, Guy's and St Thomas' Hospital, London Lewisham hospital, University College London Hospitals, and support from Chinese doctors, UK and China industry partners. First Row: Dr Qilei Song, Prof. Nilay Shah, Prof. Neil Tolley, Anusha Sri-Pathmanathan, Dr Rongjun Chen, Prof. Daqing Ma, Prof. Kang Li, Prof. Paul Fennell; Second row: Viji Pilai, Sevgi Thomson, Nazma Mojid, Paul Silverster, Dr Asit Arora, Dr Tony Jacob, Prof. Jonathan Hughes, Third row: Prof. Peter Andrews, Prof. Chaozong Liu, Prof. Alister Hart, Prof. Johann Henckel, Prof. Haibo Qiu, Prof. Chun Pan, Prof. Jianfeng Xie, Prof. Yingzi Huang; Fourth row: Prof. Peiyong Li, Prof. Wei Chen, Prof. Xiang, Dr Shijiang Liu, Prof. Qingtao Meng. Industrial collaborators: Tony Wu, Nigel Nixon, and Steve Nixon.

    Powered Air-purifying respirators (PAPRs) for COVID-19
    A PAPR system is described as offering enhanced PPE. It consists of a battery-powered respirator that filters surrounding air by removing hazardous particles and contaminates via a HEPA filter (high-efficiency particulate air filter). This system consists of a protective hood that provides full protection of the head and coverage of the shoulder. It is extremely comfortable to wear due to the flow of positive-pressure clean and cool air over the face. The hood benefits from no uncomfortable tight-fitting seals on or around the face, making it particularly suitable for racial/ethnic/religious groups that cannot shave facial hair or fail the FFP3 mask fit test. A fit test is not required for wearing a loose-fitting PAPR hood.

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    A schematic diagram - the P3-level HEPA filter in a PAPR provides high-efficiency filtration of aerosol particles containing coronavirus with a size of 60-140 nm.




    Comparison of capture efficiency of masks and HEPA filters
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    PPE type (UK Health & Safety Executive Law, HSG53 4th Ed 5.2013)
    Link to the Respiratory protective equipment at work - A practical guide

    Download the PDF copy of the guidance

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    Engineering Solution
    Time is everything. We firstly evaluated the supply chain of PAPR and the availability of PAPRs in the UK. Chinese doctors have made tremendous efforts to defect the coronavirus. We knew that PAPRs have been widely used on the front line in Wuhan, such as Chinese-made TECMEN PAPR. In contrast, there is a significant shortage of PAPRs in the UK. Sourcing and supplying large volumes from China to the UK through the NHS Trust Procurement was challenging. Surgeons desperately need the PPE to perform surgeries, therefore we had to come out with an immediate solution. We found that PAPRs have been widely used in the UK welding industry. We immediately sourced several commercially available PAPRs and respirative hoods from a variety of UK suppliers and assembled a few prototypes in a week.

    Safety is everything! PAPR consists of a variety of key components: air blower, prefilter, particulate filter, breathing hose, hood, and battery. Filter is the critical component. Many welding PAPRs are only equipped with P2-level filter that only gives nominal 94% capture efficiency. The filter can be contaminated by the coronavirus and needs to be changed frequently. The front covers in air blower units used in the welding industry have holes and are not intrinsically safe for use in hospitals. Contamination of fluids such as blood, water, alcohol and disinfectant can damage the filter and drastically reduce protection. The breathing tube and air blower should be easily cleaned and decontaminated.

    After quick screening and evaluation of all these parameters, we chose the TECMEN PAPRs with P3-level high-efficiency particulate air (HEPA) filter from the UK distributor, Weldfast UK. We assembled a few TECMEN PAPR prototypes and tested them with Prof. Tolley's team.
     
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  18. Yen

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    For all who are medically interested about latest news about COVID-19. (Especially post COVID and long haul.)

    Dr. Been had Prof. Marik at this interview / show.

    Prof. Paul Marik is what I consider a straight and excellent researcher. He is a star at the COVID front-line.

    IMHO a must to view it for all who have a real and unbiased interest at medical news and knowledge about the pandemic.
    There is finally some light shed especially related to post-COVID (activated macrophages) and long haul (activated, non classical M2 monocytes).
    BOTH seem to be immune diseases!!!

    The S1 subunit of the SARS-CoV2 virus is toxic and at those individuals suffering from either post or long COVID have problems to clear it out of the body.
    Goal is to 'reset' their immune cells to normal state.



    and especially Dr. Bruce Patterson about long haul. Also a great researcher:



    This is science. :worthy:
    These are the people who really fight effectively against the virus!
     
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  20. Mr.X

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    #2740 Mr.X, Jul 3, 2021
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    Awww ohhhh ohhhh dumb me.
    Oh how could I be so stupid ohhhh oooohhh
    Edward Snowden, oh
    If Edward Snowden says so and Pinky then must be correct.
    Me! Oh! Imbecile stupid asshole me!
    From now on I'll stop reading and witnessing some predicted events come true. They're coincidence. Besides I'm nobody, I'm powerless, I'm nothing.
    I should let "smarter" people like @gorski let run this show. After all he has pretty much a virtuosity for verbal acrobatics and quotes the guardian and BBC real news. They hold the ultimate truth.

    Oh silly me, what I was thinking....

    :rolleyes: